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Here's a picture of a baby in Gaza:


And here's what the Western pro-Ukraine masses (the one who constantly whine about Russian war conduct) think about it:


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Before this I happened to have a debate with one Ukrainian, he insisted that Western way of war is humane, because they use " precision weapons" and not carpet bombing like Russia, I disagree, I'm adamant that nothing really distinguishes the Russian employment of air power than the West.

You can read it here:

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I'm always right even though my opinion is unpopular. events will eventually prove my reasoning. It took only a few months for the West to finally expose themselves like this.

This war in Gaza will most likely be ww2 like.

In ww2 everybody was targeted from soldiers, civilians to historical places.

No longer pick and choose. Its no longer about saving hostages its just now a total war.

If Gaza gets destroyed, Israel will believe its worth the cost as it is more land and they can get away with it as the USA backs them.
 

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This war in Gaza will most likely be ww2 like.

In ww2 everybody was targeted from soldiers, civilians to historical places.

No longer pick and choose. Its no longer about saving hostages its just now a total war.

If Gaza gets destroyed, Israel will believe its worth the cost as it is more land and they can get away with it as the USA backs them.
Don't be so sure of that. There are plenty of international community members, including those in the West, that are pushing Israel to not embark on a ground invasion. There's a lot of that rhetoric coming from behind the scenes. It's not really a winnable war for Israel. Even if they do manage to destroy most of Hamas, other radicals will take their place. As long as Gaza remains a shithole and the people that live there have little hope of a prosperous life, it will be a bastion of extremism.

Furthermore, normalization of trade in the region with the Saudis is far more imporant to Israelis long term. In the short term, that process has been stalled. Refraining from a ground invasion and showing restraint in the face of what they've endured, is a good faith way of demonstrating to the Saudis that Israel a country worth fostering relations with. A full out ground war in Gaza, sets the chances of Saudi-Israeli normalization back by many, many years.
 

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Don't be so sure of that. There are plenty of international community members, including those in the West, that are pushing Israel to not embark on a ground invasion. There's a lot of that rhetoric coming from behind the scenes. It's not really a winnable war for Israel. Even if they do manage to destroy most of Hamas, others will be radicals will take their place. As long as Gaza remains a shithole and the people that live there have little hope of a prosperous life, it will be a bastion of extremism.

Furthermore, normalization of trade in the region with the Saudis is far more imporant to Israelis long term. In the short term, that process has been stalled. Refraining from a ground invasion and shoeing restraint in the phase of what they've endured, is a good faith way of demonstrating to the Saudis that Israel a country worth fostering relations with. A full out ground war in Gaza, sets the chances of Saudi-Israeli normalization back by many, many years.

After this shows were unveils . Any monarch who brave enough to entertain an ideas for normalization with Israel are simply asking for a coup and be democratizes by their own guards/officers without US involvement at all ....
 

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BREAKING: BIDEN GREENLIGHTS PALESTINIAN DISPLACEMENT FROM GAZA?

Biden's $106 billion bid Raises Alarms over possible Pre-Planned Palestinian Displacement into Egypt Biden has submitted a request for an additional $106 billion in financial aid to Gaza's displaced residents & Ukrainian refugees, with a section of the proposal causing significant concerns. While the funding aims to assist refugees and humanitarian efforts in Israel, one specific aspect of the request has garnered attention:

- On page 40, the request includes a provision to allocate funds for the support of civilians affected by ongoing conflicts, specifically mentioning Palestinian refugees in Gaza and the West Bank.

- What raises alarm is the reference to potential cross-border 'displacement' and 'asylum', suggesting that these funds are to be used for such purposes.
- The concern is that the request may basically guarantee the forced Palestinian displacement to Egypt. It calls into question the stance of the Egyptian government and the potential consequences on Palestinian sovereignty. It's important to note that in a phone call with Biden, the Egyptian President made it clear "Egypt will not permit the displacement of Palestinians from Gaza into its territory"

Three-Stage Relocation Plan: Israel's Minister of Intelligence, Gila Gamliel, has also authored a controversial proposal that has raised concerns regarding its potential impact on the Palestinian population in Gaza.

- Establishment of Tent Cities in Sinai: Minister Gamliel's plan begins with the creation of temporary tent cities in the Sinai Peninsula, specifically located southwest of the Gaza Strip. These tent cities serve as an initial relocation solution for Palestinians in Gaza.

- Humanitarian Corridor Implementation: The second stage, often referred to as the "humanitarian corridor," focuses on facilitating the movement of Palestinians out of Gaza. This stage aims to establish a route for Palestinians to leave the Gaza Strip, effectively moving them from their homes.
- Construction of Cities in Northern Sinai: In the third and final stage of the plan, Israel envisions the construction of permanent cities in the northern part of the Sinai Peninsula. These cities are intended to accommodate the relocated Palestinian population, providing a long-term solution for those displaced.
- No-Man's Land for Preventing Return: An essential aspect of the plan is the establishment of a no-man's land within Egyptian territory. The purpose of this no-man's land is to prevent the Palestinians relocated to Sinai from returning to their homes in Gaza.

WHY THIS MATTERS: This proposal highlights the potential pre-intention of the Biden administration to allocate funding for the displacement of the Palestinian people. What's also concerning this plan coincides with the leaked Israeli document, which reportedly bears the endorsement of the Israeli Ministry of Intelligence, seven days before Biden's proposal was publicized, outlining potentially similar intentions. Israel's Minister of Intelligence, Gila Gamliel's three-stage relocation plan, in conjunction with the Biden administration's funding allocation, has understandably left Palestinians deeply concerned, evoking memories of the traumatic Nakba, intensifying their fears of a potential second displacement. The Nakba is the forced displacement and dispossession of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian Arabs during and after the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. Many Palestinians fled or were expelled from their homes, becoming refugees, leading to a significant demographic and humanitarian crisis, which remains a central issue in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to this date.


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The Arab states must remove the recognition of Israel as a state, expel the American bases from their states
Many Arab states only EXIST because West support them. There is Proverb: Oil you own machine. Arabs took it as their own! 😂
 

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I've been saying it for as long as anyone has listened. WE ARE NOT THE GOOD GUYS. This is not a story about good and evil. This is a story about conflicting ideas, from seperate tribes, battling for power in the world we live in. It's a story as old as humanity itself.

There are different ideas, values and securities in the world. This is just another instance of people clashing over what they think is "just" and siding with who they think should win.

But make no mistake about it, we're not heroic good guys in this story, and anybody who thinks we are, is delusional. This is the way of the world. People who disagree about culture, religion, language, borders, rights, etc... Killing each other in defense of those beliefs.

No, this is not normal way of life.

You are trying justify genocide by preaching that these are normal in a war.

War is heavy and bloody and lot of innocent people dies in wars but wars have also a code, they have rules, written rules and unwritten rules.

Israel isnt conducting war. Sieging and surrounding a tiny strip of land like Malta and blindly carpetbombing everything that lives and also dont let food, aid, water or fuel in. That isnt war. War is fought between two almost equal sides.

This is not war, this is a one way etnocide.
 

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Many Arab states only EXIST because West support them. There is Proverb: Oil you own machine. Arabs took it as their own! 😂
The Arab states no longer need the know-how of the West, they are at a sufficient level to develop on their own. The reasons why some countries vote for the USA are geopolitical and not because they need it.
 

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The Arab states no longer need the know-how of the West
That's why I always suggest people to get some basic INFORMATION First.

Saudi LITERALLY LOST to Sandal-less(not even shoe!) Yemeni irregular armed People, when saudis being given Billions dollars worth of millitary equipment from Merica. in addition israel is another example,, Arabs(Not Plaestinians) couldn't even look into their eyes as equal power.

Arab Regular Army (Not african arab) is a Joke. And Surprisingly Arab so called LEADERS know it!
 

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Racism or not, he is right.

You can walk normally with your friends in a European city of town (even in the ghettos), there are rules of law and authority and a clinic flow of the way of things (trafficlights, shopping times, ATM's, working times etc) and there is a freedom of conversation.

This is not possible in Baghdad, La Paz, Nairobi, Mumbai, Lima, Karachi, Kabul, Kinshasa, Algiers, Calcutta, Mogadishu or Damascus.
You've just completely ignored the history of Colonialism and now Imperialism, decided to compare it to the ruins(cities) they made with the destroyers?

You can't just Jump from Middle age's to Modern age without mentioning the era of Colonialism, can you? (you even made curry with colonialism-imperialism)
 

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Turkiye took Afrin without much carpet bombing.

Destroying cities really loses its value. You gotta rebuild and start all over again.

I guess Israel will foot the bill to Creepy Joe Biden.
 

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After this shows were unveils . Any monarch who brave enough to entertain an ideas for normalization with Israel are simply asking for a coup and be democratizes by their own guards/officers without US involvement at all ....

You need to take their troll into account and I'm not even talking about normal trolls, but religious funded Salafi institution that works as their de facto online trolls deflecting criticism. These are their first line of defense against Arabs and Muslims who disliked their attitude

"Preachers" like Faris Al Zahrani, who despite the bombings in Gaza urge muslims not to boycott Israeli products because it's against the Sharia (yes he actually think like this)

You also need to monitor their Saudi funded Salafists here like Khalid Basalamah or Firanda Andirja, my guess sooner or later these guys will try to normalize things and present normalization with the Zionists as part of the Sharia. I cannot prove it yet, but I have a feeling they will.
 

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Israel has not delivered anything of importance to Ukraine's struggle against Russia. In contrast majority muslim countries like Turkey and Pakistan has. If you are Muslims in these respective country and you're concerned with happens in Gaza and Jerusalem please sabotage whatever your government is trying to send to Ukraine. They are now your enemy,thank you.


 

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That's why I always suggest people to get some basic INFORMATION First.

Saudi LITERALLY LOST to Sandal-less(not even shoe!) Yemeni irregular armed People, when saudis being given Billions dollars worth of millitary equipment from Merica. in addition israel is another example,, Arabs(Not Plaestinians) couldn't even look into their eyes as equal power.

Arab Regular Army (Not african arab) is a Joke. And Surprisingly Arab so called LEADERS know it!
And America was humiliated in Afghanistan which is supposed to be the strongest army in the world. We are talking about states like the UAE, Qatar, Egypt, Turkey, Iran and Saudi Arabia. These states are rich in hydrocarbons with enormous geopolitical power and military technology. Now we are talking about these states' expertise in a number of weapons systems while they possess state-of-the-art weapon systems worth tens of billions of dollars. Iran, Turkey, the UAE even have a serious space program. It takes will, that's what's missing.
 

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Israel has not delivered anything of importance to Ukraine's struggle against Russia. In contrast majority muslim countries like Turkey and Pakistan has. If you are Muslims in these respective country and you're concerned with happens in Gaza and Jerusalem please sabotage whatever your government is trying to send to Ukraine. They are now your enemy,thank you.




They also attacked my team which I support.

At the same time this team posts we stand with Israel LOL

"The bloody money of (Russian energy giant) Gazprom has eclipsed everything for you, left you without honour and conscience," Dynamo said in a statement.

Fenerbahce did not immediately respond to a Reuters request for a comment.

Dynamo accused the Turkish club of accepting "bloody handouts from the sponsors of terrorism," and added: "Nothing can justify this step. No money can compensate you for this shameful behaviour, this trip to the killer without morals and human qualities."

Hahahahahahaha
 

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All 56 muslimcountries should reconsider their relationship with Ukraine.

Israel was the only country in the region that supported the Kurdish referendum because they wanted a vasal-state, and now they dont need a independant 'Kurdistan' because they have Ukraine.
 
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