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Shares of the US coffee chain Starbucks carried their losing streak to the 12th day as investors' concerns about slowing sales increased, while the company's market value decreased by more than $12 billion in 20 days.
 

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Shares of the US coffee chain Starbucks carried their losing streak to the 12th day as investors' concerns about slowing sales increased, while the company's market value decreased by more than $12 billion in 20 days.
Pizza Hut is suffering here big time as well
 

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Remember how I previously talked about how the nation of Saudi Arabia and UAE are basically the extension of the zionists as well as warning people here to be careful with Saudi backed/funded Islamic preachers ?

Here's the fact talking for itself.

https://twitter.com/Haqiqatjou/status/1732498236386972005
 

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Hamas drew detailed attack plans for years with help of spies, documents suggest​



Hamas engaged in years of planning, drawing up detailed maps with the help of spies inside Israel ahead of the 7 October attack, the country’s military has concluded after examining vast quantities of phones, notebooks and documents seized from gunmen on the battlefield and in Gaza.

Fighters also carried guides to hostage-taking and Arabic-to-Hebrew phrasebooks, one of which included the line “put your hands up and spread your legs”. The document was included in a cache of material that was released on Monday by the Israel Defense Forces’ Amshat military intelligence unit.


A senior Israeli officer said the goal of Amshat, reestablished after 7 October, was to understand “Hamas attack and defence plans”, to gain operational intelligence and to better understand its doctrine after Israel’s military was caught unawares by the Hamas raid in which 1,200 were killed and 300 taken hostage.

The latest disclosures underline how little Israel’s powerful security establishment understood of Hamas’s capabilities prior to the attack and the sheer amount of signs or clues that were missed or discounted.

Last week, the New York Times reported that Israeli officials had seen a 40-page battle plan for Hamas’s eventual attack, but it was dismissed as too difficult for Hamas to carry out. Warnings from IDF spotters, mostly women, that Hamas fighters were openly exercising for an attack were also cast aside.

Among the documents recovered was a thorough map of an Israeli military base, arguably more detailed than would have been required by the IDF itself. Compiling such a map could only have been done using “inside knowledge” – almost certainly from a Hamas spy – an Israeli intelligence source said.

Laptops and handwritten notebooks refer to Hamas plans to target military locations and key points in central Israel, suggesting the group or some elements of it had aspirations to penetrate dozens of miles inside the country once its fighters were ordered to breach the wall surrounding the strip.

The detail and sheer scale of the information found have led insiders to conclude that Hamas engaged in “years of planning” – an effort that the IDF and other Israeli intelligence agencies simply failed to take seriously as a threat. There are details of weapon stores and home-produced guides to the munitions available.

On 7 October, Hamas fighters carried mobile phones with Israeli sim cards and walkie-talkies so they had more than one means of communication. Among the items recovered was a radio transmitter with solar battery to maintain contact, it is understood, for an extended period of time in Israel.

An estimated 3,000 Hamas fighters took part in the cross-border attack, and about 1,500 were killed in the initial phase of fighting. But the Israeli military response was so sluggish that in some cases it took many hours for the army to respond, while some Hamas fighters remained at large for days.

While there were signs of careful preparation by Hamas, there was also a last-minute element. Israel believes most of Hamas fighters were kept in the dark ahead of the intended attack, and only told of the plan at the last minute.

Many of items recovered in cars used by Hamas were personal or family memorabilia. The Israeli military also recovered a map of part of Gaza, riddled with bullet holes, which revealed previously unknown Hamas military sites.

Journalists were shown a wide range of documents and other items recovered from Hamas on Monday in addition to the handful that were publicly released. Reporters were asked not to describe the extra material too precisely – omitting information such as locations – for operational security reasons.

One of the documents that was made public was originally handwritten but recovered from a laptop. It details a plan to seize an IDF command post close to the Gaza border fence with two squads of soldiers, listing their weapons and roles and contains a careful hand-drawn map of the target location.

Other documents, also made public, appear to demonstrate that Hamas saw a value in hostage-taking. One is described by the IDF as a “how to take a hostage checklist” and it recommends that detention areas are booby-trapped with explosives. It also tells fighters to “kill those who cause trouble and anyone who tries to escape”, with orders to kill to be given by the company commander.

It also recommends that Hamas fighters use a phrase list of Hebrew words, phonetically translated from Arabic words. Copies of lists that have been recovered, and which were published by Israel on Monday, include translations for “put your hands up and spread your legs” and “remove your clothes”.

Phones and laptops have also yielded a welter of videos, including graphic footage of the 7 October terror attacks that Israeli officials have shown to journalists and politicians to underline the violent horror of what occurred.

But one video released on Monday also appears to show the relative ease with which a squad of fighters were able to blow open the Gaza wall with Israel near the Egyptian border.

The footage, taken from a GoPro camera carried by the fighter, follows the squad inside Israel for several hours, until the fighter is killed in a shootout at the Kerem Shalom kibbutz close to the Gaza border.

 

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Germany became simp.
Israel became like Nazi.

The Austrian painter will be confused af.
 

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Germany became simp.
Israel became like Nazi.

The Austrian painter will be confused af.

Oh wow who do we prove our loyalty to?

Germany or Israel.

What an own goal. So pathetic of the German state.
 

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That is to ensure there are no suicide bombers amongst the surrendered.

probably, but even if no suicide bomber threat i suspect they would still do the same to humiliate them. Just like in Abu Garib torture and death prison, where they were all stripped nude and exposed to all forms of torture and humiliation.
 

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Germany became simp.
Israel became like Nazi.

The Austrian painter will be confused af.

It's a policy to curb immigration from people that don't follow state foundations. Any Muslim there will have to account for the fact that they as a citizen support Israel
 
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It's a good policy, it's going to curb immigration from people that don't follow state foundations. Any Muslim there will have to account for the fact that they as a citizen support Israel
I have been following your takes or stances on different subjects here on defenceHub for a while. You have some good and bad ones but this might be the dumbest as of late.
This is not a policy, it’s fascism. Now i can understand your negativity on a lot of the issues regarding Islam and Türkiye. I feel like we have similar feelings towards a certain Political party that’s in power in our country but your hatred is making you delusional mate. I can’t understand if you’re trying to be controversial or you lost your common sense just to be on the opposite side on all issues that AKP takes?
 

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1 Germany is a federation of Lander (states). This is law in one state.
2 You do not have to 'support' Israel. You have to agree the country of Israel exists. You may not support it at all.

In my opinion, an absurd imposition on people seeking naturalisation. I am sure it is not a condition of German citizenship that you recognise the existence of Peru or Norway or Taiwan or Turkiye or any particular foreign country.
 
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probably, but even if no suicide bomber threat i suspect they would still do the same to humiliate them. Just like in Abu Garib torture and death prison, where they were all stripped nude and exposed to all forms of torture and humiliation.

If they wanted to humiliate, they would not have their under wears on.
 

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But then again Germany is israel's bitch since 1945.

In general, you wouldn't bet long with a country in which foreign policy are not controlled by self interest rather dictation from Washington

From self sabotage on Russian gas that hurts their own industry, to this. Guess we'll see a lot of self defeating move by Berlin in the upcoming years.
 

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I have been following your takes or stances on different subjects here on defenceHub for a while. You have some good and bad ones but this might be the dumbest as of late.
This is not a policy, it’s fascism. Now i can understand your negativity on a lot of the issues regarding Islam and Türkiye. I feel like we have similar feelings towards a certain Political party that’s in power in our country but your hatred is making you delusional mate. I can’t understand if you’re trying to be controversial or you lost your common sense just to be on the opposite side on all issues that AKP takes?

I'm not saying it's a policy I support, I worded my response badly.

There is a rising anti-immigration sentiment in the EU. I think policies like this are supposed to be 'under the radar' anti-immigration
 
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Israeli aviation continues to actively use Spice-2000 precision-guided bombs in the Gaza Strip. The video shows such a bomb hitting a building where, according to the IDF, members of Hamas units were seen. The Israeli air bomb "Spice-2000" is guided by GPS and dropped at a distance of up to 60 kilometers from the target. The Spice-2000 glide bomb is produced by the Israeli company Rafael Advanced Defense and weighs 907 kilograms

 

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