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Let me remind you that at that point, Erdoğan's party had a two-thirds majority (quorum) in the Grand National Assembly.
And it wasn't a leader's party then like it is now. Nayers were pretty open about it while Erdogan was pushing them to accept.
 

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And it wasn't a leader's party then like it is now. Nayers were pretty open about it while Erdogan was pushing them to accept.
At that time, Turkey was unable to pursue a fully independent foreign policy. However, Erdoğan decided to break this pattern from the very beginning. The Justice and Development Party (AKP) fully supported him. Not a single party member opposed him. And since the party held a majority in the Grand National Assembly, Washington's proposal was rejected. Even though Turkey would have been offered tens of billions of dollars and other benefits had it accepted.
I still believe Ankara made the right choice.
 

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Of the 363 AKP deputies, 264 voted "yes." No one but AKP members voted "yes." So how could Erdoğan have blocked the passage of the parliament? And by the way, Erdoğan somehow purged from his party all the deputies who voted "no" in that vote.

Despite Erdoğan's support, the 367 "yes" vote wasn't reached in that vote. Not because Erdoğan wanted it to.
 

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Turkey was unable to pursue a fully independent foreign policy.
Turkey rejecting demands to use Turkey as a launchbed for the 2003 invasion(for its benefits and problems) was a case of independent foreign policy.
 

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Turkey rejecting demands to use Turkey as a launchbed for the 2003 invasion(for its benefits and problems) was a case of independent foreign policy.
That's exactly how it was back then. Moreover, the Americans even interfered in Turkey's internal politics!
 

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Of the 363 AKP deputies, 264 voted "yes." No one but AKP members voted "yes." So how could Erdoğan have blocked the passage of the parliament? And by the way, Erdoğan somehow purged from his party all the deputies who voted "no" in that vote.

Despite Erdoğan's support, the 367 "yes" vote wasn't reached in that vote. Not because Erdoğan wanted it to.
I don't remember the exact number of voters now. But in the first vote, to Washington's surprise, his request was rejected. After that, pressure was brought to bear on Turkey, with offers of enormous sums of money. American ships carrying soldiers remained off the Turkish coast the entire time. If I'm not mistaken, the second and third votes ended the same way—the Americans were rejected.
(Expulsion from the party is an internal party matter that has never interested me.)
 

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Frankly speaking, Türkiye said it would allow America to do so, but the parliament rejected it, and later America's attitude towards Türkiye deteriorated. America's plan to divide the Middle East into pieces could not be prevented at that time, but it was slowed down, just as the division in Syria was slowed down.
 

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At the recent summit of the Arab League and the Organization of Islamic Cooperation in Doha, Qatar, Egypt's proposed plan to form a regional defense force modeled on NATO, dubbed an "Arab NATO," to counter external threats, particularly Israel, encountered strong resistance from Qatar and the United Arab Emirates and effectively failed.
Egypt proposed this plan, based on the 1950 Treaty of Mutual Defense and Economic Cooperation, to ensure the security of Arab countries by creating a rapid-response alliance. However, the main disagreement among the countries present concerned the issue of leadership: Saudi Arabia wanted to command the coalition, while Egypt, drawing on its long-standing military experience, saw itself as a more suitable candidate for this role.
Countries, including Qatar and the UAE, did not support Egypt and rejected the proposal, and ultimately it was decided to limit security matters to the Gulf Defense Council. According to him, even Iran and Turkey were tacitly excluded from the coalition.
After this defeat, Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi left the Doha meeting disappointed. Egypt had hoped that the summit would at least lead to a clear stance against Israel's genocide in Gaza and its opposition to the forced displacement of Palestinians to the Sinai Peninsula, but the influence of the United States, which sought to prevent the adoption of harsh resolutions against Israel, prevented these demands from being met.
As a result, the Arab countries present preferred to pressure the United States to find a solution for a ceasefire in Gaza rather than take direct action against Israel.



Saddam Hossein could have united the Arab countries! But the Arabs themselves hanged him with an American rope.
Erdogan refused to allow the US to attack Iraq from Turkish territory. But the Arab countries willingly provided such an opportunity.
Arabs unwilling to submit to Saddam Hossein, an Arab, will have to endure any humiliation from... Netanyahu!
As they say, c'est la vie

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If we talk about “trouble making Arabs”, we mean S.A. , UAE and maybe Jordan in the first place. This counties are highly connected and dependent on USA and EU. The rest are fighting each others like Animals, what they basically are, according to Thomas Barrack on a speech during a conference.
 

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