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Yesterday from BBC correspondent Frank Gardner

Frank Gardner
Security correspondent

The headlines have perhaps been a little misleading. The Strait of Hormuz is no more open this evening than it was at this time yesterday.

Iran is still insisting that all vessels follow its "designated route" as determined by its Ports and Maritime Organisation, and that this is subject to permission by the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) Navy.

This route is not the same as the well-established and internationally-accepted Traffic Separation Scheme that was agreed in the 1960s between the two nations, Iran and Oman, that border the Strait.

Iran says only commercial ships are permissible, so not, for example, the naval warships of the US Navy’s 5th Fleet, that is headquartered beyond the strait and inside the Gulf, in Bahrain.

In other words, these are the same conditions that Iran laid down previously as it seeks to exercise what it calls its "sovereign right" to exert its control over this vital maritime chokepoint.

To the International Maritime Organisation (IMO) and to the global shipping trade this is unacceptable. The US, meanwhile, says it is keeping in place its blockade of all Iran’s Gulf ports until a final deal is thrashed out. Until then, the crisis over the Strait of Hormuz remains unresolved.

Today from BBC news:
  • Iran's military says it will close the Strait of Hormuz in response to the US maintaining its blockade, Iranian state media reports
  • Iran's foreign minister said on Friday the Strait of Hormuz would "completely open" to commercial ships for the remainder of the ceasefire

Is the problem that the Iranian government and the IRGC are at odds?
 
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Yesterday from BBC correspondent Frank Gardner



Today from BBC news:
  • Iran's military says it will close the Strait of Hormuz in response to the US maintaining its blockade, Iranian state media reports
  • Iran's foreign minister said on Friday the Strait of Hormuz would "completely open" to commercial ships for the remainder of the ceasefire

Is the problem that the Iranian government and the IRGC are at odds?

nah that's jus typical Iranian style diplomacy.
 

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Before 1967 US was rather anti-Israel than pro-Israel.
Just because the US didn't give in to your every demand doesn't mean they were anti Israel.

And If you are referring to the arms embargo in the 1950s it also included Egypt, Iraq, Syria. It wasn't only Israel.

After 1967, the us gave you pretty much what you needed.
 

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Israel bombed hell out of Iran, eliminated dozens of generals, thousands or IRGC, military factories... without losing a single soldier.


Twitter propagandists invent lies and then argue with them. No one in Israel thinks of any greater Israel. Thats pure nonsense.

The truth is that IRAN tries to create greater Iran. Prior 7 Oct they controlled Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, North Yemen and Gaza.


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Now this axis is in ashes. Hamas is beaten, Hezbollah is beaten, Assad gone (because Israel destroyed Hezbollah), The influence of pro Iranian militias in Iraq also shrinked.

They win in tiktok and twitter Israel wins in real.
Far right parties in Israel, Ben-Gvir and Smotrich, are pushing for a greater Israel. And since their voters are aligned on that matter I wouldn't brush it off saying it's no biggie.


Even soldiers in the IDF bear regalia signifying greater Israel.
 

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My guess is that most of the ships stuck in the Gulf will still be stuck there when the ceasefire ends. If there is a longer ceasefire agreed in the next few days how many ship owners would sail their ships into the Gulf? They might end up being stuck there for weeks or months.

I see the disruption of shipments from the Gulf for a long time being more likely than unlikely.

Having failed to get his way with regime overthrow and Iranian uranium and having moved troops to the area, will Trump play one last card and try boots on the Iranian ground? If that doesn't work he might look for another target to divert attention away from his failure in Iran.
 

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Just because the US didn't give in to your every demand doesn't mean they were anti Israel.

And If you are referring to the arms embargo in the 1950s it also included Egypt, Iraq, Syria. It wasn't only Israel.

This embargo was hurting Israel much more than already armed Arab states who also received massive arms supplies from USSR.

After 1967, the us gave you pretty much what you needed.
Its not that suddenly America started loving Jews. They simply saw that Israel is the strongest army in Middle East and a useful ally.
 

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We're probably gonna see resumption in strikes once 2nd carrier strike group arrives near Iran, I don't see Iran giving up anything.
 

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We're probably gonna see resumption in strikes once 2nd carrier strike group arrives near Iran, I don't see Iran giving up anything.

their going to be attacked irrespective whether iran gives up anything or not. The isrealis have not been bombing the shit out of countless countries because they want peace, they want land and domination.

In syria when the civil war was over and assad was gone including the iranians and russians, the isrealis started their most aggressive bombing campaigns in that country.

When ghaddafi capitulated to be brought back into the international community, within 5 or so years they had him murdered.

Unfortunately the iranians only really have one trump card and its to close the straights. Thank to the zionists they are going to plunge the world into a global recession.
 

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We're probably gonna see resumption in strikes once 2nd carrier strike group arrives near Iran, I don't see Iran giving up anything.
If the US renews attacks with possible invasion of part of Iran, could those troops wipe out Iran's ability to strike ships in the Gulf? If not, I don't see the point of a limited invasion of the country.
 

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their going to be attacked irrespective whether iran gives up anything or not. The isrealis have not been bombing the shit out of countless countries because they want peace, they want land and domination.

In syria when the civil war was over and assad was gone including the iranians and russians, the isrealis started their most aggressive bombing campaigns.

I think US legitimately wants a way out of the conflict, due to how unpopular it is, and they believed they won the war, but Iran also thinks they are winning.
 

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If the US renews attacks with possible invasion of part of Iran, could those troops wipe out Iran's ability to strike ships in the Gulf? If not, I don't see the point of a limited invasion of the country.

You have an entire isreali army in isreal and it couldnt stop iranian missiles landing in tel aviv. An invasion along the coast won't stop iranians being able to hit vessels.

Isrealis don't care if the straights stay closed, they just care that iran is constantly harmed to weaken that nation. Infact Isreals probably want them closed to divert pipelines towards isreal.
 

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I think US legitimately wants a way out of the conflict, due to how unpopular it is, and they believed they won the war, but Iran also thinks they are winning.

The US might want that, but i don't think it matters what they want when it concerns Israel. Trump was probably mislead by the zionists that it would be an easy regime change. But the zionists dont care, they got the us military to harm iran.

But everyone should remember that if the globe is dragged into a massive recession and you directly suffer because of it, isreal and the zionists are the ones to thank/.
 

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their going to be attacked irrespective whether iran gives up anything or not. The isrealis have not been bombing the shit out of countless countries because they want peace, they want land and domination.

In syria when the civil war was over and assad was gone including the iranians and russians, the isrealis started their most aggressive bombing campaigns in that country.

When ghaddafi capitulated to be brought back into the international community, within 5 or so years they had him murdered.

Unfortunately the iranians only really have one trump card and its to close the straights. Thank to the zionists they are going to plunge the world into a global recession.
As I remember things, Gadaffi threatened to annihilate a faction in Libya which triggered the Europeans to intervene. He was killed by Libyans who caught him while attempting to flee. Why do you claim the Israelis had him killed?

I don't think the Zionists will be responsible for a world recession. I think it will be Israel, Iran and the US. How much blame to apportion to which I would not know.
 

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As I remember things, Gadaffi threatened to annihilate a faction in Libya which triggered the Europeans to intervene. He was killed by Libyans who caught him while attempting to flee. Why do you claim the Israelis had him killed?

I don't think the Zionists will be responsible for a world recession. I think it will be Israel, Iran and the US. How much blame to apportion to which I would not know.

he was brought back into the fold, only later to have a coup instigated against him. Those same europeans btw did everything to protect the war lord Haftar "operation irini".
 

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Far right parties in Israel, Ben-Gvir and Smotrich, are pushing for a greater Israel. And since their voters are aligned on that matter I wouldn't brush it off saying it's no biggie.


Even soldiers in the IDF bear regalia signifying greater Israel.
You can check the official programs of their parties. There is no any Greater Israel there.
 

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their going to be attacked irrespective whether iran gives up anything or not. The isrealis have not been bombing the shit out of countless countries because they want peace, they want land and domination.
If Iran signs agreement no one will attack them.
If Hezbollah disarms no one will touch Lebanon.

Very simple.

In syria when the civil war was over and assad was gone including the iranians and russians, the isrealis started their most aggressive bombing campaigns in that country.
Israel played a major role in ending the civil war in Syria by defeating Hezbollah.


When ghaddafi capitulated to be brought back into the international community, within 5 or so years they had him murdered.
He was murdered by his own people.


Unfortunately the iranians only really have one trump card and its to close the straights. Thank to the zionists they are going to plunge the world into a global recession.
Funny how you support the Iranian regime which brought more deaths and suffer to the Muslim world than anyone else in history.
 

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You can check the official programs of their parties. There is no any Greater Israel there.
They say you don't even have a constitution in the generally accepted sense. But no one seems to see the need for one.
I'm not familiar with the internal political life of your country.
Doesn't the Torah figure in your parties platform?
If not, that's an omission.
Hiding behind the holy book, as Iranian politicians (ayatollahs) do, is very convenient.
Try to criticize them for, say, corruption, and you will quickly be hanged from a crane, accused of “declaring war on God.”🙂
 
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Curious to see how the Futures Market react to this later tonight.

But, even the markets are starting to ignore all this noise.

War and peace again every 5-minutes is tiresome. All seems like some show by both the US and Iran too.

The Iranian side first come out with statements the SoH is open then some other official denies it. Do they themselves even know whose in charge there? Just madness.
 

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I really wish Trump would stop writing like a 5 year old on a sugar high. You're the president of the United States FFS.
 

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