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This thread is about Iran no?

In the end of 1970-es in Israel came to power right wingers. supporters of "Complete Israel" (which is wrongly translated as "Greater Israel").

In Iran came to power ayatulas.

And what happened since then?

- Israel gave up territories for peace, shrinking 3 times.
- Iran on the other hand started building its Shiite empire, effectively taking control over Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen... murdering nearly a million people in process.

This trend changed after 7 Oct. When Israel was brutally attacked by Iranian supporter terrorists. Iran lost control in Syria and Lebanon, Israel created tiny buffer zones.
Basically, you want me to repeat what I have already written?
It just confirms my statement that there is no point to debate much with you as it can't go anywhere, really .
Another " oh but Sir you don't understand? It is now Complete Israel?
Just a little bit of buffer zone? Which overlooks Damascus has the majority of the water reserves in Syria?
I know you learnt from Russians , soon buffer zone will need to be " buffered up"?
As of " brutal attack " " Iran did this and that " etc . Well it doesn't even merit mentioning as we have already been on those grounds.
I don't have any need to repeat myself.
 
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Basically, you want me to repeat what I have already wrote?
It just confirms my statement that there is no point to debate much with you as it can't go anywhere, really .
Another " oh but Sir you don't understand? It is now Complete Israel?
Just a little bit of buffer zone? Which overlooks Damascus has the majority of the water reserves in Syria?
I know you learnt from Russians , soon buffer zone will need to be " buffered up"?
As of " brutal attack " " Iran did this and that " etc . Well it doesn't even merit mentioning as we have already been on those grounds.
I don't have any need to repeat myself.
Israel took in Syria a tiny strip which was previously controlled by the UN forces.

Main water resource of Syria is Euphrates. Guess who built dams that drained water from it?
 

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Generally i treat isreali apologists the same way i treat the russians, i dont waste my time with them. Their never guilty and always the victim. It doesn't matter how many people they murder, how many times their people and politicians go on record declaring their genocidal intent. Their always perpetual victims.

They cannot be reasoned with. Turkiye must understand this well considering all the threats they are making towards our people and nation.
 

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Here u can see the map of security zone in Syria:

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And here the UN controlled DMZ:

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As u can see they are basically the same.
 

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1) What is your ideal map of Israel?
2) Why Israel doesn't have well defined&fixed borders?
3) If that's the complete Israel for right wingers, what do they propose for the Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza?
1) Give Gaza back to Egypt and most of the West Bank back to Jordan.
2) Israel hade defined borders with all neighboring countries. There is not defined only with never existing Palestinian state. Israel offered them to define - they refused.
3) Different views. Mostly keep current status quo I guess. I know people who agree to give them a citizenship too.
 

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How many countries has Iran invaded with the aim of conquering land?
Israel on the other hand: Palestine, Lebanon, Syria.
1) Israel was actually the first country in the world who gave Palestinians an autonomy. After terrible massacre Israel took some lands back,
2) Lebanon and Syria both attacked Israel as well.

Iran as I said created dozens of Shiite militias in order to take over other countries:

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These militias are basically foreign legions of IRGC and stronger than many official country armies. Hezbollah for example is much stronger than the Lebanese national army,
 

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I watched it somewhere some time ago , Golda Meir was talking " I am Palestinian too"
Anyway, if you are for some kind of " civilized" argument then send your people who are wanted to The Hague to argue their " innocence".
Why shouldn't we start from that point and see where will it take us?
As I have said many times ago their is no need to explain how Iran works. You should have thought about that in the 80s while you were selling them the weapons.
Also you should has informed yur friend USA about that explanation in Beirut, which killed the scorers of Marines? Didn't ex officer of Mossad wrote in his memoir " We knew about the plan, but we didn't know where"?
Hahahaha besides embassy or the camp where the F it could have occurred???
 

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Trump will visit China from 13th to15th.
It is said there has been twelve C-17 in Beijing now, if I donnot know it is a visit, i'd think he is going to run away from US with his team.
 
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How

about that attack on US ship?
It's just friendly fire during the war. Happens in every war.

In 1974 cyprus war for example Turkey sank its own destroyer. In current war Kuwait shot down 3 US jets.
 
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