News Istanbul terror attack

[TheInsider]

Poorly maintained LPG kit.

 

[Ecderha]

Not loosing control. They are playing „good cop bad cop.“

This is Bulls Eye. It is one of main strategies
You are so correct

 

[Ecderha]

For what reason, are we interrogating a criminal?

Why you limit yourself ?
This tactic is one of main skills each politician team must have and USE.

"interrogating a criminal" is just one basic way presented to people watching movie in order to Understand this Tactic

 

[Xenon54]

Why you limit yourself ?
This tactic is one of main skills each politician team must have and USE.

"interrogating a criminal" is just one basic way presented to people watching movie in order to Understand this Tactic

I just dont understand what its supposed to archieve regarding diplomacy.

 

[Kartal1]

Muhammed Ammar Jarkas. He was one of the key figures of this attack and was responsible for the refuge and transport of another key figure in the investigation Bilal Hassan to Edirne (the starting point of the smuggling scheme to both Greece and Bulgaria). Bilal Hassan is the man who delivered the explosive device to Ahlam Al-Bashir which she detonated later.

Muhammad Ammar Jarkas is the man who gave a refuge to the bomber Ahlam Al-Bashir and his brother Ahmed Jarkas was responsible for the transport of the bomber from Esenler to Kucukcekmece according to the information we got.

Muhammad Ammar Jarkas was arrested after he transported Bilal Hassan to Edirne and Ahmed Jarkas was arrested a couple hours before the bomber Ahlam Al-Bashir.

We still can't answer the questions of where Ahlam Al-Bashir was recruited, where she received her training and where was her operation area due to the confidentiality of the information and the ongoing investigation but we have access to other information regarding Muhammed Ammar Jarkas.

He managed to start a rent a car business in 2020 together with other partners and has been in Turkey for 7-8 years. His (locked) Facebook profile also contains interesting information for him.

He entered the enterprise with a budget of 100.000 TRY together with a man named Marwan Barwdji. When you call the phone number given for contacts to the company (Zrak Group) a man named Ahmad Ramez Jarkas answers. He is presenting himself as the brother of Muhammed Ammar Jarkas.

While the director of the company Marwan Barwdji insists that he didn't see Muhammed Ammar Jarkas for 3 years (the company officially entered the Turkish register in 2020) and officially Muhammed Ammar Jarkas is not one of the partners in the enterprise anymore the number given for communication connects you to his brother Ahmed Ramez Jarkas. Marwan Barwdji says that he is in the textile business.

The address of the company is ISTANBUL, ATATURK MAH. 4.BULBUL SK. NO:8A KUCUKCEKMECE. Kucukcekmece was one of the destinations of the bomber Ahlam Al-Bashir prior to the attack. The questions regarding this company are:

-Are Marwan Barwdji and his brother Yaser Barwdji (a partner in the company) victims to blackmail?

-Are they forced to pose as the directors of Zark Group while the real people who run the company are the Jarkas brothers on the orders of the Regime intelligence services with the objective to create and sustain a curtain company for the Syrian Regime Muhabbarat's malign activities?

The Jarkas family originates in Aleppo, Syria. A lot of them live in Turkey (the most of them in Istanbul) but there are still people from the Jarkas family which still lives in Aleppo. You know who has the right to live in Aleppo right?

Let me show you something interesting from Muhammed Ammar Jarkas's (as I said earlier locked) Facebook profile. These are Ammar Jarkas's dear ذكريات... or otherwise "Memories".

MIT, TEM and all the partner security services will do what is necessary to uncover all the details of this case. The real responsibility will be the responsibility of our government to play their cards as smart as possible and choose wise in what form and when our retaliation will come.

You can wish Muhammed Ammar some nice things on his Instagram profile:

Omar Js (@jarkasammar) • Instagram photos and videos

70 Followers, 59 Following, 7 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Omar Js (@jarkasammar)

www.instagram.com

 

[GoatsMilk]

I told you. She got training from YPG/US and is used by PKK. She is not a "proper" PKK terrorist. Iran can't recruit anyone from YPG or PKK without an agreement. If there is Iranian involvement it has to with the OK of PKK.

Whats new? Americans been arming and training the PKK directly in syria for years now. When we wanted to move east of the river the american army was threatening that if we hit these communist pigs that they would target the Turkish army. In the end the Americans fled the scene where Turks entered not before handing what they could over to Russia to spite Turkey.

American, Russia two sides of the same coin when it comes to international terrorism.

 

[Kartal1]

Muhammed Ammar Jarkas. He was one of the key figures of this attack and was responsible for the refuge and transport of another key figure in the investigation Bilal Hassan to Edirne (the starting point of the smuggling scheme to both Greece and Bulgaria). Bilal Hassan is the man who delivered the explosive device to Ahlam Al-Bashir which she detonated later.

Muhammad Ammar Jarkas is the man who gave a refuge to the bomber Ahlam Al-Bashir and his brother Ahmed Jarkas was responsible for the transport of the bomber from Esenler to Kucukcekmece according to the information we got.

Muhammad Ammar Jarkas was arrested after he transported Bilal Hassan to Edirne and Ahmed Jarkas was arrested a couple hours before the bomber Ahlam Al-Bashir.

We still can't answer the questions of where Ahlam Al-Bashir was recruited, where she received her training and where was her operation area due to the confidentiality of the information and the ongoing investigation but we have access to other information regarding Muhammed Ammar Jarkas.

He managed to start a rent a car business in 2020 together with other partners and has been in Turkey for 7-8 years. His (locked) Facebook profile also contains interesting information for him.

He entered the enterprise with a budget of 100.000 TRY together with a man named Marwan Barwdji. When you call the phone number given for contacts to the company (Zrak Group) a man named Ahmad Ramez Jarkas answers. He is presenting himself as the brother of Muhammed Ammar Jarkas.

While the director of the company Marwan Barwdji insists that he didn't see Muhammed Ammar Jarkas for 3 years (the company officially entered the Turkish register in 2020) and officially Muhammed Ammar Jarkas is not one of the partners in the enterprise anymore the number given for communication connects you to his brother Ahmed Ramez Jarkas. Marwan Barwdji says that he is in the textile business.

The address of the company is ISTANBUL, ATATURK MAH. 4.BULBUL SK. NO:8A KUCUKCEKMECE. Kucukcekmece was one of the destinations of the bomber Ahlam Al-Bashir prior to the attack. The questions regarding this company are:

-Are Marwan Barwdji and his brother Yaser Barwdji (a partner in the company) victims to blackmail?

-Are they forced to pose as the directors of Zark Group while the real people who run the company are the Jarkas brothers on the orders of the Regime intelligence services with the objective to create and sustain a curtain company for the Syrian Regime Muhabbarat's malign activities?

The Jarkas family originates in Aleppo, Syria. A lot of them live in Turkey (the most of them in Istanbul) but there are still people from the Jarkas family which still lives in Aleppo. You know who has the right to live in Aleppo right?

Let me show you something interesting from Muhammed Ammar Jarkas's (as I said earlier locked) Facebook profile. These are Ammar Jarkas's dear ذكريات... or otherwise "Memories".

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MIT, TEM and all the partner security services will do what is necessary to uncover all the details of this case. The real responsibility will be the responsibility of our government to play their cards as smart as possible and choose wise in what form and when our retaliation will come.

You can wish Muhammed Ammar some nice things on his Instagram profile:

Omar Js (@jarkasammar) • Instagram photos and videos

70 Followers, 59 Following, 7 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Omar Js (@jarkasammar)

www.instagram.com

By the way! If you wonder what this red beret is, it is one of the symbols of the SAA Special Operations Forces.

 

[Nilgiri]

I wonder why UAE and Morocco never sent their condolences.

Spoiler: Vexillology spoiler

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Organizations:
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and five more I'm not familiar with.

I wouldn't read too much into the tweets regarding thanks given to condolences.

I remember India, Brazil and couple other countries did not appear for TR Earthquake one some time back (and people brought that up back then too, assuming no condolence and support offer sent), whereas PRC and some others did. Later I looked and India did give condolence and offer of support.

This time looks like reversed (PRC not there, but I am sure they did convey condolence). I am sure Bangladesh also gave condolences on this terror attack, they aren't on this list this time (but I think they were on the Earthquake one).

Why some appear and some don't (given @Knowledgeseeker shows clear evidence that Morocco gave statement but this tweet by Turk President didnt acknowledge it) should may be looked into by Turkish foreign office to prevent assumptions (that all countries not on it didn't give them) and misunderstandings.

 

[TheInsider]

Muhammed Ammar Jarkas. He was one of the key figures of this attack and was responsible for the refuge and transport of another key figure in the investigation Bilal Hassan to Edirne (the starting point of the smuggling scheme to both Greece and Bulgaria). Bilal Hassan is the man who delivered the explosive device to Ahlam Al-Bashir which she detonated later.

Muhammad Ammar Jarkas is the man who gave a refuge to the bomber Ahlam Al-Bashir and his brother Ahmed Jarkas was responsible for the transport of the bomber from Esenler to Kucukcekmece according to the information we got.

Muhammad Ammar Jarkas was arrested after he transported Bilal Hassan to Edirne and Ahmed Jarkas was arrested a couple hours before the bomber Ahlam Al-Bashir.

We still can't answer the questions of where Ahlam Al-Bashir was recruited, where she received her training and where was her operation area due to the confidentiality of the information and the ongoing investigation but we have access to other information regarding Muhammed Ammar Jarkas.

He managed to start a rent a car business in 2020 together with other partners and has been in Turkey for 7-8 years. His (locked) Facebook profile also contains interesting information for him.

He entered the enterprise with a budget of 100.000 TRY together with a man named Marwan Barwdji. When you call the phone number given for contacts to the company (Zrak Group) a man named Ahmad Ramez Jarkas answers. He is presenting himself as the brother of Muhammed Ammar Jarkas.

While the director of the company Marwan Barwdji insists that he didn't see Muhammed Ammar Jarkas for 3 years (the company officially entered the Turkish register in 2020) and officially Muhammed Ammar Jarkas is not one of the partners in the enterprise anymore the number given for communication connects you to his brother Ahmed Ramez Jarkas. Marwan Barwdji says that he is in the textile business.

The address of the company is ISTANBUL, ATATURK MAH. 4.BULBUL SK. NO:8A KUCUKCEKMECE. Kucukcekmece was one of the destinations of the bomber Ahlam Al-Bashir prior to the attack. The questions regarding this company are:

-Are Marwan Barwdji and his brother Yaser Barwdji (a partner in the company) victims to blackmail?

-Are they forced to pose as the directors of Zark Group while the real people who run the company are the Jarkas brothers on the orders of the Regime intelligence services with the objective to create and sustain a curtain company for the Syrian Regime Muhabbarat's malign activities?

The Jarkas family originates in Aleppo, Syria. A lot of them live in Turkey (the most of them in Istanbul) but there are still people from the Jarkas family which still lives in Aleppo. You know who has the right to live in Aleppo right?

Let me show you something interesting from Muhammed Ammar Jarkas's (as I said earlier locked) Facebook profile. These are Ammar Jarkas's dear ذكريات... or otherwise "Memories".

View attachment 50494
View attachment 50495
View attachment 50496

MIT, TEM and all the partner security services will do what is necessary to uncover all the details of this case. The real responsibility will be the responsibility of our government to play their cards as smart as possible and choose wise in what form and when our retaliation will come.

You can wish Muhammed Ammar some nice things on his Instagram profile:

Omar Js (@jarkasammar) • Instagram photos and videos

70 Followers, 59 Following, 7 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Omar Js (@jarkasammar)

www.instagram.com

The suspect confessed that she is recruited by YPG via her boyfriend and got her training from the YPG in YPG facilities. This looks like a co-op of the regime and the YPG.

 

[Xenon54]

The suspect confessed that she is recruited by YPG via her boyfriend and got her training from the YPG in YPG facilities. This looks like a co-op of the regime and the YPG.

Which again makes Iranian involvement very likely as i have been suspecting from the beginning.

 

[Anmdt]

Which again makes Iranian involvement very likely as i have been suspecting from the beginning.

I wouldn't say just involvement, i bet the master-mind of the attack was them, either IRGC or intelligence. Coordinated through proxies - Syrian shia or shia militias they keep in Syria - as they always do.
The bomber doesn't have a single hint of being trained, i doubt if they can even detect any mark of carrying weapon on her body or any remains of gunpowder. We haven't heard anything from further investigations apart from her alleged "confession".

 

[Ecderha]

I just dont understand what its supposed to archieve regarding diplomacy.

Let say something happened and this EVENT affect you.
There is other party which is involved in the same EVENT.
So they ask you indirectly that you have to make a Move. Usually you have 2 options
- 1. Agree (YES option, You are good one. You are accepting what other party ask you to do)
- 2. Disagree (No option, You are bad one. You reject what other party ask you to do)

So by using person which you give him right to speak indirectly that what ever he SAY is also you opinion.
So this person SAY or Choose one of above options. Let say BAD option (rejection) .This lead to other party and they React

You analysis this reaction of other party and Say NO NO my spokesman Did NOT express my opinion.
I will make it clear I Agree (you choose YES option).


Above approach always help you to check what is the Win situation for you. The tactic is using the both approach in order to check both options.

Win - mean that you have flexibility to get all information and check other party

 

[Xenon54]

Let say something happened and this EVENT affect you.
There is other party which is involved in the same EVENT.
So they ask you indirectly that you have to make a Move. Usually you have 2 options
- 1. Agree (YES option, You are good one. You are accepting what other party ask you to do)
- 2. Disagree (No option, You are bad one. You reject what other party ask you to do)

So by using person which you give him right to speak indirectly that what ever he SAY is also you opinion.
So this person SAY or Choose one of above options. Let say BAD option (rejection) .This lead to other party and they React

You analysis this reaction of other party and Say NO NO my spokesman Did NOT express my opinion.
I will make it clear I Agree (you choose YES option).


Above approach always help you to check what is the Win situation for you. The tactic is using the both approach in order to check both options.

Win - mean that you have flexibility to get all information and check other party

Im sorry but i disagree with that, this is not how good cop bad com tactics work, neiter how good foreign policy works, but lets leave it at that, its derailing the topic.

I wouldn't say just involvement, i bet the master-mind of the attack was them, either IRGC or intelligence. Coordinated through proxies - Syrian shia or shia militias they keep in Syria - as they always do.
The bomber doesn't have a single hint of being trained, i doubt if they can even detect any mark of carrying weapon on her body or any remains of gunpowder. We haven't heard anything from further investigations apart from her alleged "confession".

Honestly thats what i think too, Iran is sending message due to reaproachment with Israel because it knows very well Turkey can not open cally it out due to deniabilty and energy dependence.

 

[Anmdt]

Im sorry but i disagree with that, this is not how good cop bad com tactics work, neiter how good foreign policy works, but lets leave it at that, its derailing the topic.


Honestly thats what i think too, Iran is sending message due to reaproachment with Israel because it knows very well Turkey can not open cally it out due to deniabilty and energy dependence.

+ Establisment of Turkic belt. They are irritated badly even they dare to oppose Zanzegur corridor and threaten AZ with war and support - provoke Armenia to not fulfill their promises in providing a highway, railway and energy corridor through. They can't even dare to think idea of a highway between Nakhchivan and Azerbaijan that uninterruptedly links TR to Caspian sea.

 

[I_Love_F16]

Honestly thats what i think too, Iran is sending message due to reaproachment with Israel because it knows very well Turkey can not open cally it out due to deniabilty and energy dependence.

So what is the plan for TR government right now ? Say nothing like nothing happened ? In my opinion they have to do something, you can't act as if nothing happened especially when innocent people died.

 

[Xenon54]

So what is the plan for TR government right now ? Say nothing like nothing happened ? In my opinion they have to do something, you can't act as if nothing happened especially when innocent people died.

Depends on how important cheap gas is, and right now its very important due to market situation.

+ Establisment of Turkic belt. They are irritated badly even they dare to oppose Zanzegur corridor and threaten AZ with war and support - provoke Armenia to not fulfill their promises in providing a highway, railway and energy corridor through. They can't even dare to think idea of a highway between Nakhchivan and Azerbaijan that uninterruptedly links TR to Caspian sea.

yeah i forgot that, thats another issue thats irritating Iran a lot lately which is visible throught its hostility towards Azerbaijan.

 

[GoatsMilk]

So what is the plan for TR government right now ? Say nothing like nothing happened ? In my opinion they have to do something, you can't act as if nothing happened especially when innocent people died.

most likely nothing, say the tired and bored slogan of "we can come suddenly one night" then do nothing and several months pass until the next terrorist attack. That's how serious these terrorist entities and their backers take Turkey that they can send their agent to plant a bomb in the busiest street in Europe and fear no reprisals from it.

Under AK party we have never come suddenly, its always dragged out and pushed to breaking point before something happens and when it does its always a half measure that leaves the problem to persist.

Turks are going to be dealing with the pkk crap for at least another 50 to 100 years.

 

[Kartal1]

Depends on how important cheap gas is, and right now its very important due to market situation.


yeah i forgot that, thats another issue thats irritating Iran a lot lately which is visible throught its hostility towards Azerbaijan.

President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan answered the questions of Turkish journalists after the G-20 Summit in Indonesia. Asked about the possibility of meeting with Syrian President Bashar Assad and Turkiye's relations with Syria and Egypt, Erdogan said, "There can be no resentment in politics forever. When the time comes, you sit down, evaluate it, and you can make a revision accordingly.” Erdogan continued his words as follows: “At the moment, as Turkiye, we can reconsider relations with countries that we have trouble with on these issues. “We can open a new page, especially after the June election. And accordingly, I hope we can continue in this way.”

Source:

Erdoğan’dan Esad’la görüşme sorusuna yanıt: Haziran seçiminden sonra sil baştan yapabiliriz - BBC News Türkçe

Cumhurbaşkanı Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, Endonezya’daki G-20 Zirvesi sonrası Türk gazetecilerin sorularını yanıtladı. Erdoğan, Suriye Devlet Başkanı Beşar Esad’la görüşme ihtimali ve Türkiye'nin Suriye ile Mısır'la ilişkileri hakkındaki bir soruya, “Siyasette ebedi olarak dargınlık, kırgınlık, küslük...

www.bbc.com

While we are discussing if Assad intelligence had anything to do with this bombing (I am convinced they are the main responsible) the Turkish Government is considering a new start with Assad. Looks like the mess that SNA is right now and the lack of proper political representation of the moderate opposition is getting us nowhere. Operation Claw-Lock in the north of Iraq is to be finished soon, maybe in weeks. A good atmosphere is being created for an operation on the east of Euphrates. I hope that there is some kind of message to the US side by President Erdogan with this statement and he is bluffing and pressing the US on that. Such an operation right now will bring more damage than good.

Yes SDF should be destroyed but that will most probably not be the exact case. Due to the structure of SDF they are vulnerable to disintegration and this is the path we should follow first before a direct military intervention aiming at the annihilation of SDF/YPG. Unfortunately Assad intelligence did a better job at penetrating the ranks of SDF, the tribes and he keeps the Arab part of SDF on the west of Euphrates under his control. We tried to use the tension between the Kurdish part of SDF and the Arab tribes and units but without a big success. A very difficult situation is ahead of us.

If there is a military operation I hope it is limited to targeting Manbij, Kobani and Tal Rifat. If they go for more this will be a disaster not in a military way but in political. I prefer having opponents like Assad and Iran at this point (Russia's influence in Syria is drastically decreasing) than the US and Israel. We can keep working for our national interests but we should touch softly with the right tools.

Our success in Caucasus, the success in the confrontation with Iran in the region and managing HTS are very much depending on our good relationship with the US and Israel. We should prioritize wisely. Everything has its time and this is not the time to worsen the relationship with the US and Israel as we need partners to resist Iran in the Middle East, to play our game in Caucasus so we can improve our stance in Central Asia in order to lay a stable base for larger scale cooperation within the Turkic Council and for that we will have to fight. Close cooperation within the Turkic Council and cooperation with the West should be our priority.

We are overoccupied with matters that are important for us on several continents and the reality is that as a developing nation we can't make it alone. We need economic, diplomatic and military capacity for this to work and we are very much dependent for that on the good relationship with the West and the way I see this is that the reaction we give after this bombing may determine our stance for years to come and either way there will be consequences. We must minimize the damage and continue to work towards our strategic objectives.

 

[Lool]

President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan answered the questions of Turkish journalists after the G-20 Summit in Indonesia. Asked about the possibility of meeting with Syrian President Bashar Assad and Turkiye's relations with Syria and Egypt, Erdogan said, "There can be no resentment in politics forever. When the time comes, you sit down, evaluate it, and you can make a revision accordingly.” Erdogan continued his words as follows: “At the moment, as Turkiye, we can reconsider relations with countries that we have trouble with on these issues. “We can open a new page, especially after the June election. And accordingly, I hope we can continue in this way.”

Source:

Erdoğan’dan Esad’la görüşme sorusuna yanıt: Haziran seçiminden sonra sil baştan yapabiliriz - BBC News Türkçe

Cumhurbaşkanı Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, Endonezya’daki G-20 Zirvesi sonrası Türk gazetecilerin sorularını yanıtladı. Erdoğan, Suriye Devlet Başkanı Beşar Esad’la görüşme ihtimali ve Türkiye'nin Suriye ile Mısır'la ilişkileri hakkındaki bir soruya, “Siyasette ebedi olarak dargınlık, kırgınlık, küslük...

www.bbc.com

While we are discussing if Assad intelligence had anything to do with this bombing (I am convinced they are the main responsible) the Turkish Government is considering a new start with Assad. Looks like the mess that SNA is right now and the lack of proper political representation of the moderate opposition is getting us nowhere. Operation Claw-Lock in the north of Iraq is to be finished soon, maybe in weeks. A good atmosphere is being created for an operation on the east of Euphrates. I hope that there is some kind of message to the US side by President Erdogan with this statement and he is bluffing and pressing the US on that. Such an operation right now will bring more damage than good.

Yes SDF should be destroyed but that will most probably not be the exact case. Due to the structure of SDF they are vulnerable to disintegration and this is the path we should follow first before a direct military intervention aiming at the annihilation of SDF/YPG. Unfortunately Assad intelligence did a better job at penetrating the ranks of SDF, the tribes and he keeps the Arab part of SDF on the west of Euphrates under his control. We tried to use the tension between the Kurdish part of SDF and the Arab tribes and units but without a big success. A very difficult situation is ahead of us.

If there is a military operation I hope it is limited to targeting Manbij, Kobani and Tal Rifat. If they go for more this will be a disaster not in a military way but in political. I prefer having opponents like Assad and Iran at this point (Russia's influence in Syria is drastically decreasing) than the US and Israel. We can keep working for our national interests but we should touch softly with the right tools.

Our success in Caucasus, the success in the confrontation with Iran in the region and managing HTS are very much depending on our good relationship with the US and Israel. We should prioritize wisely. Everything has its time and this is not the time to worsen the relationship with the US and Israel as we need partners to resist Iran in the Middle East, to play our game in Caucasus so we can improve our stance in Central Asia in order to lay a stable base for larger scale cooperation within the Turkic Council and for that we will have to fight. Close cooperation within the Turkic Council and cooperation with the West should be our priority.

We are overoccupied with matters that are important for us on several continents and the reality is that as a developing nation we can't make it alone. We need economic, diplomatic and military capacity for this to work and we are very much dependent for that on the good relationship with the West and the way I see this is that the reaction we give after this bombing may determine our stance for years to come and either way there will be consequences. We must minimize the damage and continue to work towards our strategic objectives.

Hm.....
I still dont know what is happening tbh
From what Iam seeing, Erdogan is trying to score points with both sides tbh
Just after he finished the G20 fiasco, he held a direct phone call with Natenyahu and this was the result

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1593222636447838208

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1593232563287752704

As for the US, I would like to say that one of the main actors against Turkey in the Azerbaijan c9nflict was US itself; have we forgotten the fact that US called the TB2s weapons of mass destruction and how Erdogan is killing the poor pitiful Armenian Christians and that the TSK and Erdogan were creating another genocide?

If we go to such news, I think @TheInsider recent analysis on the exact same interview which I posted on the Turkish foreign policy thread is slowly being spot on

For now though, no one knows what Erdogan is planning. He is trying to score points with Iran, Assad, US, Ukraine, Russia, and Israel at the same time

Just when Soylu criticised the US, Erdo did this 2 days ago,

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1592458688094085120

@TheInsider analysis regarding the post you posted (copy pasted it from the Turkish foreign thread forum, all credits to the main author)

Egypt will implode unless Sisi changes course or a sizeable Saudi/UAE financial help is given to extend the implosion process. IMF loans can't save Egypt. Egypt has a population of 100 million, and an uncompetitive military-controlled economy that exports only 40bllion annually. Erdogan wants to capitalize on that especially now that Erdo has good relations with both financiers of Egypt (Saudi Arabia and UAE). Saudi and UEA continuously donated and lent money to Egypt but I don't know for how long they are willing to spend money to keep Egypt afloat.
Erdogan is seriously thinking of kicking the USA out of Syria but he can't do that while the regime poses a threat. There has to be some kind of understanding between the regime and the Turkiye to launch a sizeable op against YPG-held territories because of the risk of regime/Iranian militia joining in. Fighting against every player is stupid even when you have the strength to do that. Regardless Turkiye will launch a new of after operation Claw-Lock is finished in northern Iraq. Manbij and Ain Al Arab are likely targets. The safe bet is to launch another op again in Northern Iraq.

Don't ever believe anything that comes out of Erdogan's mouth. He is known to change his mind frequently. (i don't use another word starting with "L" not to get into trouble.)

 

[Lool]

Hm.....
I still dont know what is happening tbh
From what Iam seeing, Erdogan is trying to score points with both sides tbh
Just after he finished the G20 fiasco, he held a direct phone call with Natenyahu and this was the result

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1593222636447838208

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1593232563287752704

As for the US, I would like to say that one of the main actors against Turkey in the Azerbaijan c9nflict was US itself; have we forgotten the fact that US called the TB2s weapons of mass destruction and how Erdogan is killing the poor pitiful Armenian Christians and that the TSK and Erdogan were creating another genocide?

If we go to such news, I think @TheInsider recent analysis on the exact same interview which I posted on the Turkish foreign policy thread is slowly being spot on

For now though, no one knows what Erdogan is planning. He is trying to score points with Iran, Assad, US, Ukraine, Russia, and Israel at the same time

Just when Soylu criticised the US, Erdo did this 2 days ago,

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1592458688094085120

@TheInsider analysis regarding the post you posted (copy pasted it from the Turkish foreign thread forum, all credits to the main author)

Egypt will implode unless Sisi changes course or a sizeable Saudi/UAE financial help is given to extend the implosion process. IMF loans can't save Egypt. Egypt has a population of 100 million, and an uncompetitive military-controlled economy that exports only 40bllion annually. Erdogan wants to capitalize on that especially now that Erdo has good relations with both financiers of Egypt (Saudi Arabia and UAE). Saudi and UEA continuously donated and lent money to Egypt but I don't know for how long they are willing to spend money to keep Egypt afloat.
Erdogan is seriously thinking of kicking the USA out of Syria but he can't do that while the regime poses a threat. There has to be some kind of understanding between the regime and the Turkiye to launch a sizeable op against YPG-held territories because of the risk of regime/Iranian militia joining in. Fighting against every player is stupid even when you have the strength to do that. Regardless Turkiye will launch a new of after operation Claw-Lock is finished in northern Iraq. Manbij and Ain Al Arab are likely targets. The safe bet is to launch another op again in Northern Iraq.

Don't ever believe anything that comes out of Erdogan's mouth. He is known to change his mind frequently. (i don't use another word starting with "L" not to get into trouble.)

The US was never a true ally to Turkey nor did it like the recent advancements in the Turkish defense industry
That ofcourse doesnt mean that Iran or Russia are the choices to go with since they are as bad as the US

Just recently, the lovely US and Europe were pressuring the Turkic Council to suspend further internal co-operation so that no turkish world can reunite and probably compete with mighty EU in the near future

From theorganisation of Turkic states thread

On the other hand, we also saw that the USA, especially the EU, put pressure on the members of the Organization of Turkish States. We even saw him threatening. They put very serious pressure, gave diplomatic notes to each country, wrote letters. But do not forget that; Now there is a Turkish world that does not bow to such threats, be it the EU or the USA.

Dışişleri Bakanı Çavuşoğlu: Tehditlere boyun eğmeyen bir Türk dünyası var

Dışişleri Bakanı Çavuşoğlu, "ABD'nin, özellikle AB'nin Türk Devletleri Teşkilatı üyelerine baskı yaptığını da gördük, hatta tehdit ettiğini de gördük. Şunu unutmasınlar; artık bu tür tehditlere boyun eğmeyen bir Türk dünyası var." dedi. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr