News Istanbul terror attack

[Kartal1]

Hm.....
I still dont know what is happening tbh
From what Iam seeing, Erdogan is trying to score points with both sides tbh
Just after he finished the G20 fiasco, he held a direct phone call with Natenyahu and this was the result

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1593222636447838208

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1593232563287752704

As for the US, I would like to say that one of the main actors against Turkey in the Azerbaijan c9nflict was US itself; have we forgotten the fact that US called the TB2s weapons of mass destruction and how Erdogan is killing the poor pitiful Armenian Christians and that the TSK and Erdogan were creating another genocide?

If we go to such news, I think @TheInsider recent analysis on the exact same interview which I posted on the Turkish foreign policy thread is slowly being spot on

For now though, no one knows what Erdogan is planning. He is trying to score points with Iran, Assad, US, Ukraine, Russia, and Israel at the same time

Just when Soylu criticised the US, Erdo did this 2 days ago,

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1592458688094085120

@TheInsider analysis regarding the post you posted (copy pasted it from the Turkish foreign thread forum, all credits to the main author)

Egypt will implode unless Sisi changes course or a sizeable Saudi/UAE financial help is given to extend the implosion process. IMF loans can't save Egypt. Egypt has a population of 100 million, and an uncompetitive military-controlled economy that exports only 40bllion annually. Erdogan wants to capitalize on that especially now that Erdo has good relations with both financiers of Egypt (Saudi Arabia and UAE). Saudi and UEA continuously donated and lent money to Egypt but I don't know for how long they are willing to spend money to keep Egypt afloat.
Erdogan is seriously thinking of kicking the USA out of Syria but he can't do that while the regime poses a threat. There has to be some kind of understanding between the regime and the Turkiye to launch a sizeable op against YPG-held territories because of the risk of regime/Iranian militia joining in. Fighting against every player is stupid even when you have the strength to do that. Regardless Turkiye will launch a new of after operation Claw-Lock is finished in northern Iraq. Manbij and Ain Al Arab are likely targets. The safe bet is to launch another op again in Northern Iraq.

Don't ever believe anything that comes out of Erdogan's mouth. He is known to change his mind frequently. (i don't use another word starting with "L" not to get into trouble.)

I am supporting his point of view but which one should first leave Syria, the US or Iran is debatable. There should be a clear strategic roadmap to how we can sort out the problems with the Regime, YPG and Iran but which comes first is still not clear for me. The situation is so messed up with Syria and Iraq that as much as I think over a solution I am more hopeless for such.

When we talk about Erdogan and foreign policy a "confusion" is a mild word we can see. If I have to be fair I absolutely don't have an idea what is the plan.

The relationship with the US over the Caucasus is an important one. We should work with all means for the opening of Zangezur corridor and the best way is normalization with Armenia plus diplomatic solution. We should force our way and make them understand that Turkey is not a puppet but a partner. The only real obstacles are Iran and Russia. Russia is in a war, Iran is torn by protests including of our fellow Azerbaijanis who live there. We should use these opportunities and act wise. I hope our strategists know what they do. Everything should be as smooth as possible.

 

[Ryder]

Dont be surprised if you hear the Assad Regime's footprints with this bombing.

They have been implicated in numerous terrorist attacks in Turkiye.

Also supported and funded the Pkk and Asala that both Turkiye and the Assad regime nearly came close to war in 1998.

 

[Heartbang]

Dont be surprised if you hear the Assad Regime's footprints with this bombing.

They have been implicated in numerous terrorist attacks in Turkiye.

Also supported and funded the Pkk and Asala that both Turkiye and the Assad regime nearly came close to war in 1998.

how would this benefit Assad in any tangible way?

 

[Ryder]

how would this benefit Assad in any tangible way?

Its proxy warfare as long as Turkiye is focused on fighting terrorism they wont bother us.

Assad regime has no capabilities to fight or even strike us so they use terrorists.

Lets not forget how the Assad regime allowed Al Qaeda in Iraq to be in Syria.

 

[Zafer]

Some members here do not even speak Turkish but act like they know matters of Türkiye very well. Erdoğan cited the names of the leaders who offered their condolences but made a difference for those whose condolences were not accepted. It is up to them to find out what.

 

[Nilgiri]

Obviously the administration in question is perfect and has zero chance of making a slip up on a tweet of thanks.

Obviously condolences were accepted from: Armenia, Greece, Iran , US etc. (some of which are speculated to be behind the attack itself)

But rejected from: Morocco, China, Bangladesh and many others (that didn't make the list).

Members here that are wise to what extreme political fanboys sound like can deduce using Occam's razor themselves regarding "condolences made but not accepted" , especially with regards to Morocco which we have a literal statement posted on this thread already.

 

[Anastasius]

I assumed that it was based on whose condolences the Turkish government was aware of at the time of the tweet. Possibly some countries' messages of sympathy hadn't been read/heard yet at the time?

 

[Nilgiri]

I assumed that it was based on whose condolences the Turkish government was aware of at the time of the tweet. Possibly some countries' messages of sympathy hadn't been read/heard yet at the time?

Its quite possible. In which case, a follow up tweet to thank the rest that were a bit later to come... would probably be best (if this is the case).

 

[Ryder]

It is said that the women was suppose to do a suicide bombing but actually was scared to do it so she just placed a bag and ran away.

Scary shit really.

May Allah protect us from harm. Its a public place where we are with family and friends.

Its the kind of thing you dont think of when going out. Shows how life is fragile and how we have monsters out there who would do such things to cause harm for this "bs cause".

 

[Zafer]

Obviously the administration in question is perfect and has zero chance of making a slip up on a tweet of thanks.

Obviously condolences were accepted from: Armenia, Greece, Iran , US etc. (some of which are speculated to be behind the attack itself)

But rejected from: Morocco, China, Bangladesh and many others (that didn't make the list).

Members here that are wise to what extreme political fanboys sound like can deduce using Occam's razor themselves regarding "condolences made but not accepted" , especially with regards to Morocco which we have a literal statement posted on this thread already.

You sound funny when you speak.

In his speech Erdoğan cited the names of world leaders who sent their condolences but called one of the names without saying honorifics. You won't know of this if you do not follow news in Turkish and unless a foreign language news outlet translate it correctly, which none has.

 

[TheInsider]

Yes, Erdogan didn't use "Sayın"(similar to sir, means something like respectable you put sayın before the name to show you respect the person you mention) when he mentioned Joe Biden. He said President of the US Joe Biden. He used "sayın" for all of the leaders he mentioned except Biden.

 

[Xenon54]

The US was never a true ally to Turkey nor did it like the recent advancements in the Turkish defense industry
That ofcourse doesnt mean that Iran or Russia are the choices to go with since they are as bad as the US

Just recently, the lovely US and Europe were pressuring the Turkic Council to suspend further internal co-operation so that no turkish world can reunite and probably compete with mighty EU in the near future

From theorganisation of Turkic states thread

I can not hear about those ''friend'' ''Ally'' talks anymore when its about FP, there are no friends or allies, US is not only screwing over Turkey, its screweing everybody including europeans.
Remeber there were times in Turkey where Azeri flags were forbidden in stadium and those that they collected were thrown into trash, the government that decided this is still in power.

We should stop shaping our FP with emotions and start following our best interest first and believe me our best interest can not be to stay hostile to the biggest economic bloc in the world.

 

[Asena_great]

Son Dakika: İstiklal Caddesi'ndeki saldırıyı gerçekleştiren Ahlam Albashır'ın yeni ifadesi ortaya çıktı

İstiklal Caddesi'nde 6 kişinin yaşamını yitirdiği ve 81 kişinin yaralandığı bombalı terör saldırısını gerçekleştiren Ahlam Albashır'ın abisinin ÖSO'da üst düzey komutan olduğu ortaya çıktı.

www.cumhuriyet.com.tr

the brother of the terrorist turns out to be free Syrian army commander

 

[Ryder]

Son Dakika: İstiklal Caddesi'ndeki saldırıyı gerçekleştiren Ahlam Albashır'ın yeni ifadesi ortaya çıktı

İstiklal Caddesi'nde 6 kişinin yaşamını yitirdiği ve 81 kişinin yaralandığı bombalı terör saldırısını gerçekleştiren Ahlam Albashır'ın abisinin ÖSO'da üst düzey komutan olduğu ortaya çıktı.

www.cumhuriyet.com.tr

the brother of the terrorist turns out to be free Syrian army commander

There are many fsa groups that joined ypg.

So it does make sense.

 

[Zafer]

Son Dakika: İstiklal Caddesi'ndeki saldırıyı gerçekleştiren Ahlam Albashır'ın yeni ifadesi ortaya çıktı

İstiklal Caddesi'nde 6 kişinin yaşamını yitirdiği ve 81 kişinin yaralandığı bombalı terör saldırısını gerçekleştiren Ahlam Albashır'ın abisinin ÖSO'da üst düzey komutan olduğu ortaya çıktı.

www.cumhuriyet.com.tr

the brother of the terrorist turns out to be free Syrian army commander

You mean an ex-commander.

 

[Ryder]

You mean an ex-commander.

Honestly fsa is not a unified group.

When fsa split into many factions many also joined the ypg/sdf.

Turkiye does not back all of fsa only the ones we back are called turkish backed fsa groups.

 

[TheInsider]

FSA (Free Syrian Army) and SNA (Syrian National Army) is not the same thing. After the implosion of the FSA, some groups joined the SDF (Syrian Democratic Forces=YPG+Some Arab forces).

 

[Tornadoss]

Yes, Erdogan didn't use "Sayın"(similar to sir, means something like respectable you put sayın before the name to show you respect the person you mention) when he mentioned Joe Biden. He said President of the US Joe Biden. He used "sayın" for all of the leaders he mentioned except Biden.

If adding Sayin in front of the name showing respect, we know to whom once Erdogan called sayin tho.

 

[bisbis]

Interesting analysis tbh
This is certainly another way to interpret the incident
Sadly, we may not be able to know the whole truth as many things are still shrouded in mystery

But I dont really think that such actions will force Turkey to even doubt Israel IMO! Rn, Israel's Mossad and Turkey's MIT are the best of friends proven by the fact that Israel recently helped MIT in capturing many Iranian agents within Turkey; thus, I dont really think that Israel had a hand in this fiasco

As for the Israeli tourists, lets not forget that most of Israeli citizens (wether men or women) are actually soldiers within the Israeli army. After the recent imrpovement in relationship, more than 660,000 Israelis went to Turkey for vacation in less than a year; co sidering that Israel's population is only like 5-6 million which means that nearly 25% of Israel visited Turkey and this may increase the possibility of military personnel being co-incedentally eithin the vicinity of the attack

Ofcourse all of this is theoritical as none of us have definite proof

No one knows the connection between Israel and pkk/ypg. Those two Israelis, may be, were the field control team.

So they were probably controlling who would take the action.

Since all Kurdish members of the Ypg/pkk are known and followed by our country, they found and trained Arab members in a different organization name and in a different place.

 

[CAN_TR]

An operation was carried out in Mersin to catch 18 suspects who were making terrorist propaganda. A suspect, who tried to escape by jumping from the balcony was caught in a short time.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1596007218503356416