TR Land Vehicle Programs

[Saithan]

I don't get the message they are trying to send. For a second I was expecting to see a photo of a sherman....

 

[Strong AI]

I don't get the message they are trying to send. For a second I was expecting to see a photo of a sherman....

Actually it would be badass if we would have Tiger tanks.

 

[Strong AI]

Is there no modernization planned for these tanks?

 

[Radonsider]

Is there no modernization planned for these tanks?

TIYK for 81 tanks

 

[begturan]

TIYK for 81 tanks

BUT there has been no delivery so far, even though the project started 2 years ago.

 

[Strong AI]

 

[Strong AI]

BUT there has been no delivery so far, even though the project started 2 years ago.

Actually it started last year.

ASELSAN Signs Leopard 2A4 Upgrade Agreement | TURDEF

ASELSAN and BMC signed a contract worth 197.4 million Euros and 1.3 billion TL to modernise Leopard 2A4 tanks within the TİYK-LEO2A4 Project.

turdef.com

 

[begturan]

Actually it started last year.

ASELSAN Signs Leopard 2A4 Upgrade Agreement | TURDEF

ASELSAN and BMC signed a contract worth 197.4 million Euros and 1.3 billion TL to modernise Leopard 2A4 tanks within the TİYK-LEO2A4 Project.

turdef.com

https://www.defenceturk.net/bmc-ve-aselsandan-leopard-2a4-modernizasyonu-sozlesmesi

this new pointing 2022, actually it is end of 2022 begining of 2023 so almost two years passed. M60 TIYK project going very well but no sign about Leopard 2 TIYK, Germany may be obstructing some issues ?

 

[Strong AI]

https://www.defenceturk.net/bmc-ve-aselsandan-leopard-2a4-modernizasyonu-sozlesmesi

this new pointing 2022, actually it is end of 2022 begining of 2023 so almost two years passed. M60 TIYK project going very well but no sign about Leopard 2 TIYK, Germany may be obstructing some issues ?

Yeah technically 2022 but since the contract with Aselsan was signed in May 2023, we can say that it started last year. Because most of the parts will be from Aselsan.

 

[begturan]

Yeah technically 2022 but since the contract with Aselsan was signed in May 2023, we can say that it started last year. Because most of the parts will be from Aselsan.

True as far as I understand, the modernization project is progressing step by step, first Roketsan upgraded armours accourding to this news in 2022 https://www.savunmasanayist.com/tiyk-leo-2a4-leopard-2a4-modernizasyonu/

But later on the project was brought together under BMC management, now Aselsan is integrating its own electronic systems under BMC management.

 

[Strong AI]

True as far as I understand, the modernization project is progressing step by step, first Roketsan upgraded armours accourding to this news in 2022 https://www.savunmasanayist.com/tiyk-leo-2a4-leopard-2a4-modernizasyonu/

But later on the project was brought together under BMC management, now Aselsan is integrating its own electronic systems under BMC management.

According to this post, those 40 tanks are not included in the TIYK for 81 tanks.

As part of the urgent need for operations, 40 Leopard 2A4s have been upgraded to the Leopard2A4T1 level with the armor packages produced by Roketsan. With the TİYK-LEO 2A4, the remaining tanks will be subjected to both electronic and ballistic modernization. NG is getting real…
We will see if it will be Leopard NG or LEOTAY

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1581299657078018049

TİYK-LEO 2A4: Leopard 2A4 Modernizasyonu | SavunmaSanayiST

Leopard 2A4 (TİYK-LEO 2A4) Modernizasyonu Projesi, Savunma Sanayii Başkanlığı tarafından başlatıldı. Proje ile Leopard 2A4 Modernizasyonu gerçekleştirilecek.

www.savunmasanayist.com

 

[Sanchez]

Leo2A4T1s only have the Roketsan armor package. They will also undergo the TIYK upgrade.

 

[Strong AI]

Leo2A4T1s only have the Roketsan armor package. They will also undergo the TIYK upgrade.

But are they included in 81 or seperate?

 

[begturan]

Leo2A4T1s only have the Roketsan armor package. They will also undergo the TIYK upgrade.

i expected it to be like that, most probably after Turkish army approval of Leopard 2A4T1 they went fully modernization.

 

[Anmdt]

Y'all are expecting tracked YNZMA (Next Generation IFV/APC) project to go through? Here we have got you some modernized G-ZPT, G stands for Geliştirilmiş - Improved.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1854058766179713059

Nevertheless, better than nothing since it seems like we neither going to get wheeled, nor tracked APC/IFV until BMC or MKE makes one, tests it thoroughly and fulfills the requirements to pass the qualification tests. Living the poverty in midst of wealth.

 

[Radonsider]

Y'all are expecting tracked YNZMA (Next Generation IFV/APC) project to go through? Here we have got you some modernized G-ZPT, G stands for Geliştirilmiş - Improved.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1854058766179713059

Nevertheless, better than nothing since it seems like we neither going to get wheeled, nor tracked APC/IFV until BMC or MKE makes one, tests it thoroughly and fulfills the requirements to pass the qualification tests. Living the poverty in midst of wealth.

FNSS has been chosen for YNZMA

 

[boredaf]

Y'all are expecting tracked YNZMA (Next Generation IFV/APC) project to go through? Here we have got you some modernized G-ZPT, G stands for Geliştirilmiş - Improved.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1854058766179713059

Nevertheless, better than nothing since it seems like we neither going to get wheeled, nor tracked APC/IFV until BMC or MKE makes one, tests it thoroughly and fulfills the requirements to pass the qualification tests. Living the poverty in midst of wealth.

I'm okay with them upgrading aluminium death boxes we already have but I might lose my mind if they ordered a new batch.

 

[Strong AI]

Nevertheless, better than nothing since it seems like we neither going to get wheeled, nor tracked APC/IFV

Can we buy powerpacks easily abroad?

 

[Anmdt]

Can we buy powerpacks easily abroad?

Could we not?
We can't if you narrow the specs down to a particular supplier. There are alternative brands available in the market, specially for IFV / APC class. I see the logic of getting domestic engine for a project aiming at thousand units, but hey it is our soldiers heading to frontlines in improved tin-cans.

If you are not going to dare to take 12.7 AP shots at the vehicle while yourself inside, simply don't defend it. This is my motto.

 

[Strong AI]

There are alternative brands available in the market

Are those brands from different countries? Didn't we try this with Altay and only SK agreed much later? I am just asking because i am curious and i don't want to see old junk in the inventory.