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it's at least positive that we're talking. What I don't like is that it's Haftars son who is used as the emissary. This kinda indicates trust issues as I see it.

Either Haftar doesn't trust his own people, or we're talking about things only for Haftar and his sons ears.....
Haftar is old already. He is already in the process of transferring his legacy and executive tasks to his sons. Still a good development.
 

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Hakan Fidan: "We are in contact with Mr. Haftar in Libya, we are meeting with his sons"

Minister of Foreign Affairs Hakan Fidan stated that relations with the east of the country in Libya are also progressing and said, "We wish for an independent, sovereign Libyan state to come to life again. At this point, we already have relations with the west, and we are improving our relations with the east.

The Speaker of the Parliament in the East, Mr. Akile Salih, came to our country several times. We are in contact with Mr. Haftar, we are meeting with his sons, we have opened our Consulate General in the east and we are putting it into service. So all kinds of relationships continue, but we are currently looking at how we can use this relationship to bring the east and west together.

Not only in Turkiye, but frankly in Libya, especially with Egypt, as you know, Egypt has a large border with Libya, there is a perception that Egypt rightly has a border security problem on this border, so it needs to be resolved. Therefore, Egypt has an interest. Just as we have a border with Syria, we have threat perceptions originating from Syria, so can Egypt, we understand this," he said.

Indeed. To add, not like we’re not talking with LNA.
From last month:

“The Director General of the Libya Development and Reconstruction Fund, appointed by the House of Representatives, Belgassim [son of Haftar], signed contracts with Turkish companies to implement several projects in Benghazi”

I would very much like to know what is the continued Turkish policy re Libya. Now that any EEZ operations and drilling in the region on our side is also halted.
Remembering this from May.
 

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Haftar is old already. He is already in the process of transferring his legacy and executive tasks to his sons. Still a good development.
His son may have experienced the issues in Libya, but how much wisdom has he gathered on dealings with "double standard" countries or agencies.

This is one of the reasons for having institutions to support leadership. a person will pass away with his knowledge and knowhow, but if you manage to institutionalize diplomacy in government agencies you have strong backing that should be able to warn you timely.

So the question that comes to mind is, where did Haftars son study (he has 6 sons so, it's going to be interesting to see which gets the power).




So much going on, and as I see it. this is not good for Libya. I mean E.Libya turning into a family business.
 

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His son may have experienced the issues in Libya, but how much wisdom has he gathered on dealings with "double standard" countries or agencies.

This is one of the reasons for having institutions to support leadership. a person will pass away with his knowledge and knowhow, but if you manage to institutionalize diplomacy in government agencies you have strong backing that should be able to warn you timely.

So the question that comes to mind is, where did Haftars son study (he has 6 sons so, it's going to be interesting to see which gets the power).




So much going on, and as I see it. this is not good for Libya. I mean E.Libya turning into a family business.
As far as I know we are in contact with Saddam Haftar.
 

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Haftar's marauders are massing heavy military buildup in Al-Shuwerf area. GNU is trying to put in place some emergency measures. This shows that Haftar is about to embark on a new adventure. Whether there will be an rerun that will destroy the peace process to the extent of forcing a direct Turkish military intervention or a dangerous game over the disputed territories will become clear in the coming days.
 

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Haftar's marauders are massing heavy military buildup in Al-Shuwerf area. GNU is trying to put in place some emergency measures. This shows that Haftar is about to embark on a new adventure. Whether there will be an rerun that will destroy the peace process to the extent of forcing a direct Turkish military intervention or a dangerous game over the disputed territories will become clear in the coming days.
They're mobilizing as well. Vurans with RCWS.



Maybe I have misunderstood the situation but as far as I'm concerned the military build-up by Haftar is not intended as a threat against Tripoli but rather its movement is directed towards the "Ghadames" crossing near the border with Algeria, and Shweirif in southwestern Libya. The target is not Turkiye, and its allies, but rather Algeria. A lot of interesting developments have been taking place in the region within the last 3 weeks, i might make a post about it this week.
 

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Maybe I have misunderstood the situation but as far as I'm concerned the military build-up by Haftar is not intended as a threat against Tripoli but rather its movement is directed towards the "Ghadames" crossing near the border with Algeria, and Shweirif in southwestern Libya. The target is not Turkiye, and its allies, but rather Algeria. A lot of interesting developments have been taking place in the region within the last 3 weeks, i might make a post about it this week.
Please, that would be very good. I don't understand the mobilization as it, regardless of what excuse they'll use, doesn't make sense to us, who don't follow or can't understand the local /regional news.

IMO it's insane to do these moves if you haven't reached a unity within your own country to begin with.

I'd like to add that in a world with digitalization and social media the silence is astounding.
 

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Libya's largest oil field, El Sharara, was shut down by order of Khalifa Haftar. While this move created great uncertainty in the global oil market, Spain's decision to extract oil sparked this crisis.

El Sharara, the largest oil field in North Africa, located in southwestern Libya, was shut down last week on the orders of Khalifa Haftar. General Khalifa Haftar, who controls the east and south of Libya, took this decision in reaction to the brief detention of his son Saddam Haftar in Italy. The El Sharara oil field is operated by an international consortium, led by Spanish energy giant Repsol, and provides around 28% of Libya's total oil production.

According to reports in the Libyan media, Haftar's radical decision was influenced by Spain's decision to extract oil. The closure of El Sharara is being used as a pressure tool against Spain. Libyan media reports that this step aims to increase the pressure on Madrid.

Libya's Division and Political Uncertainties

Libya is currently controlled by two rival administrations. In the west, the internationally recognized Government of National Unity (GNU) and in the east, the Benghazi Administration led by Khalifa Haftar. Haftar's health condition and political uncertainties in Libya could create further instability in the oil sector.

Conclusion:

The closure of the El Sharara oil field has the potential to create a serious crisis in the global oil market. Spain's decision to extract oil and political tensions in Libya may cause fluctuations in oil prices. The unstable situation in Libya continues to pose a risk that cannot be ignored in the global oil market.

These developments may require Spain and other international actors to reassess their oil investments in Libya. This fragile balance in the global oil market may be shaken by further geopolitical and economic developments in the coming days.

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Italian media: Il Fatto Quotidiano

The Libyan capital Tripoli is in a state of great anxiety as the Libyan National Army (LNA), led by Khalifa Haftar and his son Saddam Haftar, is advancing westward. Haftar's troops are reportedly moving towards Ash Shwayrif, some 400 km southwest of Tripoli. This movement is targeting strategic areas close to the Algerian and Tunisian borders.

Libyan Government of National Unity (GNU) forces have raised the level of alert against a possible attack, calling on all military units to "immediately" report to their headquarters. The Libyan Supreme Council of State in Tripoli described the LNA's actions as "illegal" and warned that they could restart the armed conflict in Libya and threaten the GNU.

The LNA's actions are particularly notable for the deployment of mercenaries from the Russian Wagner Group to support the conflict in Mali. This is exacerbating tensions in the region.

Haftar's attempts to seize Tripoli are reminiscent of the long siege that began in 2019 and his subsequent operations against Fayez al-Serraj, the head of the internationally-backed Government of National Accord (GNA). Haftar's new move risks a widespread conflict across the country.

 

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Egypt inviting Benghazi-based Prime Minister Usama Hammad to come visit Cairo has sparked a diplomatic crisis with Libya’s Government of National Unity in Tripoli.

The GNU is now summoning Egypt’s ambassador, & it will expel the entire diplomatic mission.

This slide towards overt a diplomatic assault from abroad against Dabaiba’s government is profoundly dangerous.

Egypt’s unhelpful & provocative interference jacks up the probability of a hot war across the greater Tripoli area between pro- and anti-GNU factions.

 

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"The House of Representatives unanimously voted to revoke the Presidential Council's authority as the supreme commander of the military. The decision designates Aguila Saleh, in his role as HoR Speaker, as the supreme commander of the armed forces."


Libyan Parliament unanimously decides to end the term of the government of unity and its Prime Minister Abdulhamid Dbaiba


Zintan militias mobilize.


As usual, not much is said officially and we don't know what angle Turkey plays in all this. Some say Turkey is distraught by the news but is hedging its bets. Some say Turkey and Egypt have already agreed that Dbeibeh needs to leave to achieve unity. All the meanwhile, Hafter gathers strength and Russia fortifies its position in the country.

i might make a post about it this week.
Now or never chief.

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Playground that is Libya:
"So... Libya now has

3 parliaments pilfering
2 governments grifting
And a military dictator in waiting

It'd be funny if it didnt mean death, destruction and impoverishment for a nation that went to war twice in 10 years to avoid this"...
 
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Don't be surprised if Turkiye backs Saif Al-Islam Gaddafi or another leader to replace Debeibah.
 

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Why though?
Did Debeibah go against Turkey or something?
He is flirting with everyone and makes different promises to every party. I doubt he can go against Turkiye but at some point, Turkiye might grow tired of him.
 
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