Macron: No apology for French crimes in Algeria

Ryder

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Not exactly, Anatolia was homeland for Greeks and Armenians millenias before Turkic arrival....

Anatolia was the homeland of the ancient Anatolians.

Not the Greeks, Armenians and Kurds. For centuries Anatolia was conquered and settled by many peoples and empires.

Who won at the end its the Turks. Anatolia is our homeland and always will be.

Either the Greeks and Armenians deal with it or we will force it down their throats to accept it.
 

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Incorrect...Algerian guerillas systematically targeted and killed French and Muslim civilians ,using mutilations, beheadings as terror tools.
Sorry but you can’t compare the Greeks and Armenians killed Turks in both Balkan and Armenia and in Anatolia the Algerians on the other hand didn’t kill French civilians in Algeria or France
 

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So do you agree that Transylvania belong to Hungary
Most Romanians deserted Austro Hungarian regiments in WW1 or were shipped on other fronts because they didn't want to face Romanian troops but as I've pointed above most of the French colonial troops were Muslim VOLUNTEERS
 

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Homeland? No. Their conquest? Yes. Though the line tends to become blurry in due time.
Exactly.....that's why bickering why your great great grandfather clubbed to death and stole my great great grandfather s wife is rather pointless and counter productive today.
History is a long line of conquests and injustice inflicted by man on fellow man.We are now at a point in our civilisation when bygone must be bygone and focus on something else
 

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Exactly.....that's why bickering why your great great grandfather clubbed to death and stole my great great grandfather s wife is rather pointless and counter productive today.
History is a long line of conquests and injustice inflicted by man on fellow man.We are now at a point in our civilisation when bygone must be bygone and focus on something else

Thats true, but the problem comes from modern narratives being enforced on history. We got scrutiny about historical shit from countries that have done either the same or even much worse. If you are going to push a moral lens on history then it should be applied universaly and not wether that you like a country or not. This is the case more often then not. Objective history is dead for the average citizen. Thats where the French are so disgustingly hypocritical, more so then any other countries in the world imo. Even here in the Netherlands there is very little, almost nothing being taught about the atrocities being commited in Indonesia and what little is being taught is simply veiled.
 

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Thats true, but the problem comes from modern narratives being enforced on history. We got scrutiny about historical shit from countries that have done either the same or even much worse. If you are going to push a moral lens on history then it should be applied universaly and not wether that you like a country or not. This is the case more often then not. Objective history is dead for the average citizen. Thats where the French are so disgustingly hypocritical, more so then any other countries in the world imo. Even here in the Netherlands there is very little, almost nothing being taught about the atrocities being commited in Indonesia and what little is being taught is simply veiled.
People don't like to talk about their nations past atrocities, it's the same for Turkey.
But, I agree with you, French parliament passing Armenian genocide bills is hypocritical and counter productive.
The Germans/ Nazis get flak for 4 years of terror in Europe while tiny, innocent,cute, little harmless Belgium ran their private Auchswitz for 30 years in the Congo....the whole country was Sobibor....
 

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