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My point is that Turkey and Russia have not been in a war since the 19th century, and such "airspace violations" are not rewarded with kills! Different from Syrian machines - what happened back then was initiated by FETO - the desired result is open ;)
What do you mean by feto ?????????
 

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My point is that Turkey and Russia have not been in a war since the 19th century, and such "airspace violations" are not rewarded with kills! Different from Syrian machines - what happened back then was initiated by FETO - the desired result is open ;)
Beyond doubt.
I was surprised that ru took it for what it was (legitimate response 15km or not :)
 

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Beyond doubt.
I was surprised that ru took it for what it was (legitimate response 15km or not :)
I recall it as such a move too. Though I heard the pilot was shot while descending with parachute, which is just wrong, and filmed it too...

The pilot being related to feto was another chance to mend ties with Russia.

Though the shooting the Jet was due to several warnings and the Russian pilot not responding, but proceeding to fly into Turkish airspace.

anyway does anyone think the likely scenario of this is going to be some sort of embargo to give Greece face, while Turkey gets to keep the EEZ and France gets to sell billions of euro worth hardware.
 
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My point is that Turkey and Russia have not been in a war since the 19th century, and such "airspace violations" are not rewarded with kills! Different from Syrian machines - what happened back then was initiated by FETO - the desired result is open ;)


No one buys this FETÖ thing anymore....
 

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I recall it as such a move too. Though I heard the pilot was shot while descending with parachute, which is just wrong, and filmed it too...

The pilot being related to feto was another chance to mend ties with Russia.

Though the shooting the Jet was due to several warnings and the Russian pilot not responding, but proceeding to fly into Turkish airspace.

anyway does anyone think the likely scenario of this is going to be some sort of embargo to give Greece face, while Turkey gets to keep the EEZ and France gets to sell billions of euro worth hardware.
Sorry could not read any more after u mentioned shooting pilot. But my brain kicks in that was not what happened that day. Pilots are not to be shot at
 

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No one buys this FETÖ thing anymore....
I just can't believe that Turkish commanders are so stupid that they order something like this - since it usually doesn't just happen - instead, planes are escorted out and "intercepted" as long as you are not in a war with the other party - either it was just reckless, or it should serve some idea... to improve relations with Russia you don't have to shoot down a plane... for me it was either stupid or had an agenda
 

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I just can't believe that Turkish commanders are so stupid that they order something like this - since it usually doesn't just happen - instead, planes are escorted out and "intercepted" as long as you are not in a war with the other party - either it was just reckless, or it should serve some idea... to improve relations with Russia you don't have to shoot down a plane... for me it was either stupid or had an agenda
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Was darbasiyah drone strike also done by feto ?
 
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I just can't believe that Turkish commanders are so stupid that they order something like this - since it usually doesn't just happen - instead, planes are escorted out and "intercepted" as long as you are not in a war with the other party - either it was just reckless, or it should serve some idea... to improve relations with Russia you don't have to shoot down a plane... for me it was either stupid or had an agenda
If you remember back in 2012 Syria downed our jet. After that our RoE regarding Syrian border have been changed. Any tresspassing vehicle is ordered to be shot down. Prior to downing of TuaF already had downed 2 Syrian Jets and 2 Syrian Helicopters. Last incident was Russian Jet. Everything else that they say are stories.
 

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