TR Marine Mavi Vatan (Blue Homeland)

Oublious

Experienced member
The Netherlands Correspondent
Messages
2,053
Reactions
7 4,407
Nation of residence
Nethelands
Nation of origin
Turkey
If they make a agreement then ther is no reason to handshake pissi...
 

what

Experienced member
Moderator
Messages
2,071
Reactions
9 6,138
Nation of residence
Germany
Nation of origin
Turkey
If a country can undetected blow up a pipeline in the Baltic Sea, we sure can mysteriously cut / damage wires in the East Med (hopefully).
 

Heartbang

Experienced member
Messages
2,456
Reactions
8 3,771
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
FiL8Y69XwAAw0T5


The route of the Egypt-Greece power line.
this is a declaration of war in anything but name. and it should be treated as such.
 

Heartbang

Experienced member
Messages
2,456
Reactions
8 3,771
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
You cant reason with Egypt.

They are firmly with Greece.

Egypt needs to be weakened and destroyed.
propose a dam project to Sudan and let Egypt dry up like California Raisins. arm Ethiopia and Sudan to the TEETH. seize the grain imports to Egypt.

let these pharaoh LARPers face the music.
 

Ryder

Experienced member
Messages
10,560
Reactions
5 18,206
Nation of residence
Australia
Nation of origin
Turkey
propose a dam project to Sudan and let Egypt dry up like California Raisins. arm Ethiopia and Sudan to the TEETH. seize the grain imports to Egypt.

let these pharaoh LARPers face the music.

Egyptians once said they beaten us goes and checks. Kavali Mehmed Pasha and his son Ibrahim Pasha are not Egyptians lol

Remember how they warned us not to go to Libya and we still went.

Egypt is a joke. Lets not forget how Israel humiliated them.
 
Last edited:

Anastasius

Contributor
Moderator
Azerbaijan Moderator
Messages
1,353
Reactions
3 2,996
Nation of residence
United States of America
Nation of origin
Azerbaijan
Yeeeah I don't think Egyptians should really take too much pride in Muhammad Ali. For one he was Albanian and did not consider himself Egyptian, for two his army was composed of all Ottoman ethnicities including Turks fighting another Ottoman army to depose the sultan and seize power for himself. It was essentially a civil war despite later Egyptian nationalist literature attempting to claim that he was trying to build some kind of Egyptian empire.
 

Osman

Committed member
Messages
256
Reactions
2 481
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
Yeeeah I don't think Egyptians should really take too much pride in Muhammad Ali. For one he was Albanian and did not consider himself Egyptian, for two his army was composed of all Ottoman ethnicities including Turks fighting another Ottoman army to depose the sultan and seize power for himself. It was essentially a civil war despite later Egyptian nationalist literature attempting to claim that he was trying to build some kind of Egyptian empire.
He and his descendants don't even speak albanian and even arabic (elementary level maybe). Their native tongue was Turkish and his Albanian origin is not clear. A classical Ottoman elite. Old European historians had a tendancy to find fictive origins for Ottomans. They are not reliable at all. We do not have enough historical facts about the origins of devhirmes and their families. Only rumours found in the letters of Italian embassies (Venice, Genoa). Mehmet Ali Pasha was not a devshirme. Devshirme system ended completely towards 1630s. His family is said to have Albanian devshirme origins. So he is a Turk, no matter if one of his grand grand father 200 years ago is albanian or serbian slave. He may have albanian, ethiopian, greek, serbian, ukranian, armenian etc blood. Like most of us in Türkiye.

The same thing for Memlouks, they have been collected by slave traders till 16th century. Mostly turkic to some extend slavic, circassian an georgian boys. But all of them know Kipchak Turkish (and even İstanbul Turkish). Even sultans who are said to be circassian, have their poems written in Turkish (bot Kipchak and Ottoman). It is so clear but for Europeans they are circassian...
 
Last edited:

Ryder

Experienced member
Messages
10,560
Reactions
5 18,206
Nation of residence
Australia
Nation of origin
Turkey
Yeeeah I don't think Egyptians should really take too much pride in Muhammad Ali. For one he was Albanian and did not consider himself Egyptian, for two his army was composed of all Ottoman ethnicities including Turks fighting another Ottoman army to depose the sultan and seize power for himself. It was essentially a civil war despite later Egyptian nationalist literature attempting to claim that he was trying to build some kind of Egyptian empire.

The thing is Egytpians nationalists have created this myth.

Muhammed Ali Pasha only wanted to seize the Ottoman Empire for himself.

It is said if he took Istanbul he was going to be the sultan. Most likely Muhammed Ali Pasha would not be living in Cairo or Alexandria but in Istanbul.

As you said it was a civil war many Egyptian writers at the time even complained about how Egypt was ruled by Turkish, Albanian and Circassian elites who ran Egypt as their own and barely spoke any Arabic.
 

Bogeyman 

Experienced member
Professional
Messages
8,731
Reactions
63 30,354
Website
twitter.com
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey

The combat and support aircraft of our Air Force and the AWACS aircraft commissioned by NATO performed the NEXUS ACE training mission in coordination with NATO in the international airspace of the Aegean Sea for mutual training purposes.

NATO's NEXUS ACE mission, which took place in the international airspace, was tried to be prevented by Greek aircraft, and the NATO mission was successfully completed by responding with the aircraft belonging to our Air Force.
 

GoatsMilk

Experienced member
Messages
3,442
Reactions
11 9,061
Nation of residence
United Kingdom
The thing is Egytpians nationalists have created this myth.

Muhammed Ali Pasha only wanted to seize the Ottoman Empire for himself.

It is said if he took Istanbul he was going to be the sultan. Most likely Muhammed Ali Pasha would not be living in Cairo or Alexandria but in Istanbul.

As you said it was a civil war many Egyptian writers at the time even complained about how Egypt was ruled by Turkish, Albanian and Circassian elites who ran Egypt as their own and barely spoke any Arabic.

After getting completely sonned by Isreal they need every myth they can get.
 

Ravenman

Contributor
Messages
759
Reactions
1 1,528
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey

We are acting very slowly in the East Med. We should have signed a EEZ with Lebanon and Israel a long time ago.

The East Med was once the lake of our Barbaros brothers and our legendary corsairs and renegades (Murat Reis, Turgut Reis, Kiliç Bey, Burak Reis, Piri Reis, Kemal Reis) putting fear and terror in the hart of our naval enemies.
 

what

Experienced member
Moderator
Messages
2,071
Reactions
9 6,138
Nation of residence
Germany
Nation of origin
Turkey

Heartbang

Experienced member
Messages
2,456
Reactions
8 3,771
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
How? We buy Russian oil too.
Do you wish to complain to an organization that we're not part of that your neighbour is not obeying their rules?
They pledge they won't, but do so anyway, that's the difference.
Since they willingly participate AND break the sanctions thereafter, they can be held accountable.
We don't have that to worry about.
 

Bogeyman 

Experienced member
Professional
Messages
8,731
Reactions
63 30,354
Website
twitter.com
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
Someone is targeting the region for East Mediterranean gas and oil again. It is necessary to pay attention to those who ordered the report, not those who wrote the report.

 

Follow us on social media

Top Bottom