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If a country can undetected blow up a pipeline in the Baltic Sea, we sure can mysteriously cut / damage wires in the East Med (hopefully).
 

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The route of the Egypt-Greece power line.
this is a declaration of war in anything but name. and it should be treated as such.
 

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You cant reason with Egypt.

They are firmly with Greece.

Egypt needs to be weakened and destroyed.
propose a dam project to Sudan and let Egypt dry up like California Raisins. arm Ethiopia and Sudan to the TEETH. seize the grain imports to Egypt.

let these pharaoh LARPers face the music.
 

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propose a dam project to Sudan and let Egypt dry up like California Raisins. arm Ethiopia and Sudan to the TEETH. seize the grain imports to Egypt.

let these pharaoh LARPers face the music.

Egyptians once said they beaten us goes and checks. Kavali Mehmed Pasha and his son Ibrahim Pasha are not Egyptians lol

Remember how they warned us not to go to Libya and we still went.

Egypt is a joke. Lets not forget how Israel humiliated them.
 
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Yeeeah I don't think Egyptians should really take too much pride in Muhammad Ali. For one he was Albanian and did not consider himself Egyptian, for two his army was composed of all Ottoman ethnicities including Turks fighting another Ottoman army to depose the sultan and seize power for himself. It was essentially a civil war despite later Egyptian nationalist literature attempting to claim that he was trying to build some kind of Egyptian empire.
 

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Yeeeah I don't think Egyptians should really take too much pride in Muhammad Ali. For one he was Albanian and did not consider himself Egyptian, for two his army was composed of all Ottoman ethnicities including Turks fighting another Ottoman army to depose the sultan and seize power for himself. It was essentially a civil war despite later Egyptian nationalist literature attempting to claim that he was trying to build some kind of Egyptian empire.
He and his descendants don't even speak albanian and even arabic (elementary level maybe). Their native tongue was Turkish and his Albanian origin is not clear. A classical Ottoman elite. Old European historians had a tendancy to find fictive origins for Ottomans. They are not reliable at all. We do not have enough historical facts about the origins of devhirmes and their families. Only rumours found in the letters of Italian embassies (Venice, Genoa). Mehmet Ali Pasha was not a devshirme. Devshirme system ended completely towards 1630s. His family is said to have Albanian devshirme origins. So he is a Turk, no matter if one of his grand grand father 200 years ago is albanian or serbian slave. He may have albanian, ethiopian, greek, serbian, ukranian, armenian etc blood. Like most of us in Türkiye.

The same thing for Memlouks, they have been collected by slave traders till 16th century. Mostly turkic to some extend slavic, circassian an georgian boys. But all of them know Kipchak Turkish (and even İstanbul Turkish). Even sultans who are said to be circassian, have their poems written in Turkish (bot Kipchak and Ottoman). It is so clear but for Europeans they are circassian...
 
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Yeeeah I don't think Egyptians should really take too much pride in Muhammad Ali. For one he was Albanian and did not consider himself Egyptian, for two his army was composed of all Ottoman ethnicities including Turks fighting another Ottoman army to depose the sultan and seize power for himself. It was essentially a civil war despite later Egyptian nationalist literature attempting to claim that he was trying to build some kind of Egyptian empire.

The thing is Egytpians nationalists have created this myth.

Muhammed Ali Pasha only wanted to seize the Ottoman Empire for himself.

It is said if he took Istanbul he was going to be the sultan. Most likely Muhammed Ali Pasha would not be living in Cairo or Alexandria but in Istanbul.

As you said it was a civil war many Egyptian writers at the time even complained about how Egypt was ruled by Turkish, Albanian and Circassian elites who ran Egypt as their own and barely spoke any Arabic.
 

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The combat and support aircraft of our Air Force and the AWACS aircraft commissioned by NATO performed the NEXUS ACE training mission in coordination with NATO in the international airspace of the Aegean Sea for mutual training purposes.

NATO's NEXUS ACE mission, which took place in the international airspace, was tried to be prevented by Greek aircraft, and the NATO mission was successfully completed by responding with the aircraft belonging to our Air Force.
 

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The thing is Egytpians nationalists have created this myth.

Muhammed Ali Pasha only wanted to seize the Ottoman Empire for himself.

It is said if he took Istanbul he was going to be the sultan. Most likely Muhammed Ali Pasha would not be living in Cairo or Alexandria but in Istanbul.

As you said it was a civil war many Egyptian writers at the time even complained about how Egypt was ruled by Turkish, Albanian and Circassian elites who ran Egypt as their own and barely spoke any Arabic.

After getting completely sonned by Isreal they need every myth they can get.
 

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We are acting very slowly in the East Med. We should have signed a EEZ with Lebanon and Israel a long time ago.

The East Med was once the lake of our Barbaros brothers and our legendary corsairs and renegades (Murat Reis, Turgut Reis, Kiliç Bey, Burak Reis, Piri Reis, Kemal Reis) putting fear and terror in the hart of our naval enemies.
 

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