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Turkey isn’t going to wait for their accept. They’ll be flown back like others.
 

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Turkey, Russia, Iran to start talks on Syria Tuesday​

In Sochi, Russia, 3 countries expected to discuss current situation on ground, process for new constitution​


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In a two-day meeting, Turkey, Russia, and Iran are expected to discuss the situation on the ground in Syria and the political process as well as efforts to draw up a new constitution for the country.

The Astana process guarantors will meet in the 15th round of Syria peace talks in Sochi, Russia on Tuesday and Wednesday following recent failures of the Syrian Constitutional Committee in Geneva – the first such meetings since late 2019.

In late January, Geir Pedersen, the UN special envoy for Syria, called the January meeting of the committee in Geneva “a disappointment.”

Speaking of the regime rejecting a compromise accepted by the Syrian opposition, Pedersen said: "It cannot continue like this."

The course of the committee is expected to be the focus of this week’s talks in Sochi.

The meetings of the Syrian Constitutional Committee, which started in October 2019 with 150 members, are the first concrete step to draft a new constitution to determine Syria’s future.

Although setting a date for the next constitutional talks seems difficult, the meetings in Sochi are expected to see intense discussions towards the committee meeting again.

Apart from summits and meetings of foreign ministers, the Sochi meeting will be the first time delegations of high-level diplomats have met to evaluate the situation in this format since the 14th round of Syria peace talks in December 2019.

Pedersen said he will attend the talks in Sochi if the pandemic allows.

The Astana peace process to end the Syrian conflict was launched in January 2017 at the initiative of Turkey, Russia, and Iran.

The meetings of Astana guarantors also contribute to the advancement of the UN-led diplomatic process in Geneva.

The conflict in Syria began in 2011 when the Assad regime cracked down on demonstrators with unexpected ferocity.

 
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The backlash from this is not worth the article itself.

Turkey, Russia, Iran to start talks on Syria Tuesday​

In Sochi, Russia, 3 countries expected to discuss current situation on ground, process for new constitution​


thumbs_b_c_d1a4d508809c2d95eaa0a1d4071e5716.jpg



In a two-day meeting, Turkey, Russia, and Iran are expected to discuss the situation on the ground in Syria and the political process as well as efforts to draw up a new constitution for the country.

The Astana process guarantors will meet in the 15th round of Syria peace talks in Sochi, Russia on Tuesday and Wednesday following recent failures of the Syrian Constitutional Committee in Geneva – the first such meetings since late 2019.

In late January, Geir Pedersen, the UN special envoy for Syria, called the January meeting of the committee in Geneva “a disappointment.”

Speaking of the regime rejecting a compromise accepted by the Syrian opposition, Pedersen said: "It cannot continue like this."

The course of the committee is expected to be the focus of this week’s talks in Sochi.

The meetings of the Syrian Constitutional Committee, which started in October 2019 with 150 members, are the first concrete step to draft a new constitution to determine Syria’s future.

Although setting a date for the next constitutional talks seems difficult, the meetings in Sochi are expected to see intense discussions towards the committee meeting again.

Apart from summits and meetings of foreign ministers, the Sochi meeting will be the first time delegations of high-level diplomats have met to evaluate the situation in this format since the 14th round of Syria peace talks in December 2019.

Pedersen said he will attend the talks in Sochi if the pandemic allows.

The Astana peace process to end the Syrian conflict was launched in January 2017 at the initiative of Turkey, Russia, and Iran.

The meetings of Astana guarantors also contribute to the advancement of the UN-led diplomatic process in Geneva.

The conflict in Syria began in 2011 when the Assad regime cracked down on demonstrators with unexpected ferocity.


This isn't going anywhere other to maintain the status quo. There's our proxy, then the Russian and Iranian proxies just agreeing to not escalate. It's going nowhere.
 

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This isn't going anywhere other to maintain the status quo. There's our proxy, then the Russian and Iranian proxies just agreeing to not escalate. It's going nowhere.
That would be ideal as that would mean YPG is fair game for the Astana trio
 
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That would be ideal as that would mean YPG is fair game for the Astana trio

On paper yeah. But thinking it through, I can't recall a single joint op with Russia and Iran. Russia and Iran would love it by letting us start, America would halt our advance at some minimal point so we don't achieve much. Iran and Russia get to pull us from the west as we look like we cooperate with them and we risk more sanctions. I mean if it it happens, that would be a first for the US foreign policy in the middle east, signals a huge change about withdrawing from the middle east completely.

Without full scale war, I can't see a total removal of the YPG. Maybe taking Ain Issa would further cripple the YPG region, but this is a place with 100,000 fighters and the US supplies them.

That status quo as well is worrying. There is some ISIS shits now attacking us in Idlib and SMO has a worse reputation than HTS. The big fear is Erdogan loses election and CHP want to distance from the Islamism of HTS/SMO and deals with Assad and they think we betray, we have a huge border with a huge threat of angry extremists.

That being said, Syria between us and Iran/Russia - how would that look ?
 

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Worst scenario: Status quo.

Its going to be small incremental gains until Turkey has sufficient air defences. After that Turkey will do as she pleases in northern Syria. But nothing will be given to us that we cannot take for ourselves, discussions are only good for making it look like Turkey tried the diplomatic route to no avail.

As for Russia and Iran agreements with them are worth no more then toilet paper that has already been used to wipe your arse with.

Turkey needed to maintain the status quo before the syrian war for about another 10 years. Had the war come about in 2030, Turkey would have been strong enough to create the facts on the ground.

However the Turkish military must constantly be on the move, if she cant hit them in syria right now she has to hit them in Iraq.

Diplomatically nothing has been won for Turkey under AK party and i doubt it ever can be. That leaves only the military option. When the military has been used we have seen gains.
 
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