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Indeed, the terms of the new deal are much better than the one in MArch 10 one. I was afraid of some bad scenarios (and still don't like PKK getting away alive), given all my past disillusions. And the fact that Barrack, Barzani, and Abdi met in Erbil. But now I think they were probably planning to transfer PKK rats from Syria to Nord Irak to possibly unite with PJAK and use them against Iran.
You see,first this so called deal then root out the rotten eggs and destroy them
The radical islamists in the Syrian army will make sure of that.
Maybe with hunting parties.😁😁 😁
 

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I have reservations about the implementation of the the agreement like most of us, however, from this point forward YPG/PKK/SDG is done, finished, dead:

- They were not only defeated, but also humiliated. There was no put up a fight, even no resistance (100.000 soldier lmao :)) This is middle east baby, no strength means no respect from anybody, and yes that includes supporters

- There was no political coverage, only Graham (even he was half assed, also everyone knows him so doesnt matter). Even Macron couldnt say sharp words. England, Germany, Russia, Pentagon nothing. Noone defended them. To an entitiy whose existence is entirely dependent on external forces, that was the most crushing blow.

- They lost all the money. Even without agreement they had lost the oilfields. Without it they simply cannot paid the terrorists in the region under SDF, they cannot govern anywhere.

- In last years PKK was defeated militarily in our country. Their only hope and reason for dragging feets was Syria and SDG, which for the reasons above and much more, ceased to exists

What was inevitable has become reality. They are now defeated, humiliated, diplomatically abandoned and without money, they have no chance. Congratulations to our diplomats, MIT and above all the unsung patriotic heroes on the field whose names and contributions we will never ever know. May Allah blessed them all
 

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another big loser is in the background American taxpayers, everything for israel. I hope they get wake up, billions off dollar is wasted in Syria.
 

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NOjava period.


I had a great few days, but when you stop and think about it, a question inevitably comes to mind:
If this issue were really so easy to resolve, why haven’t we already eliminated the organization’s leadership starting with Kandil and all its hideouts once and for all?


It makes one wonder whether the state sees the YPG/PKK as a kind of “useful bacteria,” something that keeps the army and the nation alert and mobilized.


Are we trapped inside a dangerous political theater, or am I simply overthinking it?


Questions… questions.
 

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So,why do you guys think Israel is silent?
I think they knew from the beginning they had no future. No sociologic or historical background, just bunch of thugs etc. May be, just may be they hoped SDG to become pain in the neck for us.

We may have some relations in the future with Israel like 5 or 10 years from now, we dont know. But if they interfere militarily, that means game over, this option will be gone forever. They are not that stupid.

Also, to get help you should put up a good resistance first. Noone come to aid those who run away from the fight
 
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NOjava period.


I had a great few days, but when you stop and think about it, a question inevitably comes to mind:
If this issue were really so easy to resolve, why haven’t we already eliminated the organization’s leadership starting with Kandil and all its hideouts once and for all?


It makes one wonder whether the state sees the YPG/PKK as a kind of “useful bacteria,” something that keeps the army and the nation alert and mobilized.


Are we trapped inside a dangerous political theater, or am I simply overthinking it?


Questions… questions.
You know you know.
 

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Yeh turkiye keeps the pkk around like yeast for bread when they need to distract the population from the repeated political, social and economic failures of the akp.
 

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So,why do you guys think Israel is silent?
What are they gonna do? Bark like a dog?

Like I said Israel neither has the capabilities nor the resources to do anything away from its own borders. Having Graham whine on twitter like a 6 year old who didn't get mcdonalds after school was their biggest weapon.

What is hilarious is with this israel has zero cards to play, they WILL concede behind closed doors to Turkey in many matters. They have been unable to sway Trump in this matter as they have tried for months and now with the sdf obliterated their only card no matter how small has been taken off their hands.

Another hilarious context is how a certain neighbor was barking just yesterday with big statements, with sdf dead and Turkey being able to divert its attention fully to the aegan I imagine that certain neighbor will shut its mouth and keep it shut for a certain time.

They sold themselves to israel for pretty much nothing. Israel is unable to keep F-35 out of Turkey's hands and with how things are turning out any fantasis they had about cyprus and the mediterranean will vanish.
 

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PPK is derailing the agreement!

remanent left behind in Raqqa are killing civilians and ambushing the military
In south Hasakah they are committing massacres against tribes (many women and children killed). Really grim video material is circulating of the massacres.
They are also retaking towns previously liberated by the tribes!

Damn these kurds. they never learn. around 200 civilians killed in the past couple of hours....



I've had it with these communist kurds. slaughter them all!

every single ppk member and supporter should be decapacitated and dragged through the streets! starting with abdi, that piece of shit.


 
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PKK is killing hundreds of civilians and now the Syrian government is sending reinforcements. Imagine how will this be portrayed in the f..ing western media. They will say the jihadist government forces has broken the deal and killing inncoent kurds! So Israel is not standing still.... I am sure as clashes continue they can also conduct some air attacks. That's why I have said all along. No deals with terrorists! They need to be annihilated, period.
 
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guys something is fishy i feel this is not a vitory but a trap for us. Ahmed al-Sharaa sign degree that syrian state officially recognized the kurdish language as official state language !! this is a big lose for us ! the kurdistan project still advancing YPG they are nothing but pawn they are not important they can die but the project is moving forward no wonder why Americans didnt interfere. for a country to be officially recognized


first they need their ethnicity need to have its language officially recognized by constitution
second it need to have some sort of political border like being state or autonomy


then this "political" entity would gain a right to hold referendum on independence !! like catalonia and iraqi kurdistan and would be officially recognized by other UN countries ! remember even if these right later revoct since they are recognized one these people will have forever right for the referendum. even if YPG falls they still won the officially recognized the kurdish language as official state language !

idk i kinda feel we are walking into trap


edit : this is also same thing that DEM trying to achieve in turkey politically
 

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NOjava period.


I had a great few days, but when you stop and think about it, a question inevitably comes to mind:
If this issue were really so easy to resolve, why haven’t we already eliminated the organization’s leadership starting with Kandil and all its hideouts once and for all?


It makes one wonder whether the state sees the YPG/PKK as a kind of “useful bacteria,” something that keeps the army and the nation alert and mobilized.


Are we trapped inside a dangerous political theater, or am I simply overthinking it?


Questions… questions.
I don't know about that, I think when you have American Congressman talking " Religious War" , then you should understand what is the score and how much and how far at the certain moment, things can be pushed.
There is something else, more those bastards resist , more of them will be killed. That's one of very useful things. Their best cadre getting killed or they have to run into the smaller places.
This is like chess party, some people want Fischer or Tal moves, in these kinds of situations I prefer Karpov and Kramink sort of the players.
Israel at least now can do f all, it is bridge too far. I guess they weren't confident to cross to Daraa . They know that their regular ground force are at best of very avarage quality. To cross the dessert? Long distance? Very difficult.
Let's wait and see , this fight has been going for decades it won't be solved in days. What I know and what is obvious, there is no more the siege of Turkey like it was 6 7 years ago.
Oh yes, whome to trust if you are are PKK donkey, psychologically it is pretty unnerving.
 
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