Ryder
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Live Conflict Military Operations Syria
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We have to do something about these attacks a new offensive or anything we can't just stay like sitting ducks
Ryder
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Turkey before went on a rampage our drones targeted their headquarters one of their ust duzey got killed.
Ypg are pissed off but also remember Russia is telling the ypg and the assad regime to escalate.
While our fsa clowns are too busy killing each other off.
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These kind of atgm attacks happening because fsa can't even proect the area ypg militants are entering without getting detected If a new offensive happens I doubt they will try to do any attacks like these
Ryder
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Only way to stop atgms or rocket attacks is to clean the area of ypg scumbags.
Thats the only choice we have also Tal rifat has to be cleaned out first.
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Don't we have anti atgm systems on those bases?
Ryder
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I think some users can explain.
I never heard of any trophy system being deployed in any TSK base in Syria.
Türk Silahli Kuvvetleri personeli ve sorumlu oldugu mobil ve sabit üs sahalarinin korunmasi ile ilgili 3(üc) adet proje gelistirmis bulunmaktayim. Her 3 proje icin de ülkemizin haiz oldugu teknolojik seviye ve mekanik mühendislik fazlasi ile mevcut durumdadir. Önerilen cözümler minumum maliyetle maksimim etkiyi sunmaktadirlar.
1. Mobil ve sabit üslerde görev alan TSK personelimiz gerek mevzide, gerekse devriyede ATGM (Antitank roketatar mermisi) saldirilari ile sehit ve yarali vermektedir. Sundugum cözüm temelde mekanik aksamli ama istenirse elektro-mekanik desteklenebilir mahiyettedir ve ATGM saldirilarini (tek olarak veya satürasyon olarak) tamamen etkisiz kilmaktadir. Sistem tamamen mekanik olarak calismakta ve dogal fizik kuralini taban almaktadir. Cok ucuz maliyetine ragmen %100 etkili bir cözüm sunmaktadir.
2. TSK Personeli ve Türk Polis Teskilati Mensuplarinin arazide gece sartlarinda bulunduklari saha ve alanlara sizmalari undinda haber verecek maliyeti cok cüzi fakat etkinligi maksimumda olan bir cöm gelistirdim. Cözümde cevresindeki isisal degisiklige son derece duyarli ve bu degisiklik halinde son derece heyecan duyan bir canli kullanilmaktadir. Bu canlinin beslenme, barinak ve bakim zorunlulugu bulunmamaktadir.
3. TSK sabit üs ve karakol sahalarinin gece-gündüz ve her hava sartinda sizmalara karsi korunmasina yönelik bu cözümde de, düsük maliyet/yüksek etkinlik temel alinmistir. Uygulanabilirlik düz arazi sartlarini gerektirmektedir.
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Protection of Turkish Armed Forces personnel and mobile and fixed base areas for which they are responsible
I have developed 3 (three) projects related to For all 3 projects, our country has
It is available with a technological level and a surplus of mechanical engineering. Suggested solutions
They offer maximum effect at minimum cost.
1. Our TAF personnel, who work in mobile and fixed bases, are both in position and on patrol.
ATGM (Antitank rocket launcher projectile) attacks give martyrs and wounded. I present
The solution is basically mechanical but can be supported electro-mechanically if desired.
and completely neutralizes ATGM attacks (single or saturation).
The system works completely mechanically and is based on the natural physics rule. very
Despite its cheap cost, it offers a 100% effective solution.
2. TAF Personnel and Members of the Turkish Police Force were in the field at night.
The cost is very low, but its effectiveness is very low, which will immediately notify the infiltrations to the fields and areas.
I have developed a solution that is maximal. The solution is extremely sensitive to the thermal change around it.
A creature that is sensitive and extremely excited about this change is used. This
The creature does not have to be fed, sheltered or cared for.
3. TAF fixed base and outpost areas against leaks day and night and in all weather conditions.
This solution for conservation is based on low cost/high efficiency.
Applicability requires flat terrain conditions.
Kind regards
ANSWER OF SSM =>
I am sending this message within the scope of your CIMER application numbered 1902154495 and dated 18.09.2019. In your application, although you state that you have developed 3 (three) projects related to the protection of mobile and fixed base areas for which Turkish Armed Forces personnel are responsible, you do not provide any information about what the projects are. Technical information, documents, drawings, etc. of the projects you have proposed. If you send your information to this e-mail address, my technical colleagues on the subject will examine your projects and form an idea about what can be done.
A.BASA
First project with undergraded equipment was sold to the German armed forces. The Bundeswehr opened this solution to the civilian market with a few changes. This version was bought by the DFB (German Football Association) and the Federal Police and used in all German stadiums.
Second project was sold to IDF (Israel Defense Force).
Third project was sold to a country whose name may not be known but the copyright to ASELSAN was sold by that country.
The semi-public company for which we developed the first project has given our company another grant so that we can continue to work on this project.
So the new version is further developed against thermal guided ATGM in night-time operations. With this modification, the solution is invisible at night but can only be seen with a thermal visor. But possible targets behind it (buildings, troops, tanks, sentry posts, etc.) will disappear and no longer be targetable.
So the new version is further developed against thermal guided ATGM in night-time operations. With this modification, the solution is invisible at night but can only be seen with a thermal visor. But possible targets behind it (buildings, troops, tanks, sentry posts, etc.) will disappear and no longer be targetable.
Anadolu Agency accesses documents showing French intelligence aware of Lafarge financing Daesh/ISIS
Documents obtained by Anadolu Agency revealed that the cement giant Lafarge constantly informed the French intelligence agencies about its ties with the Daesh/ISIS terror group.The documents unveiled that Lafarge, which was charged with “complicity in a crime against humanity” over funding Daesh/ISIS terror group to operate in Syria, ran a relationship with the Daesh/ISIS and the French intelligence was aware of it.
Documents showed that the French intelligence agencies used Lafarge’s network of relations, its cooperation with the terror groups in Syria and meetings to maintain its operations there to get news from the region. They also revealed that the French intelligence did not warn the company that they were committing a crime.
Company demands support from French intelligence agencies
According to official French documents, the relations between Lafarge and intelligence agencies started on Jan. 22, 2014, when the company’s security director Jean-Claude Veillard sent an e-mail to the Interior Ministry’s intelligence directorate.
Veillard, in the mail, said the company needs to maintain relations with “local actors” to be able to continue its operations in Syria. Recalling the negative news that appeared on media about the company, he asked whether executives and the headquarter of the company were under threat.
The intelligence officer, in response, told Velliard about the date when they will address the issue.
French intelligence benefits from Lafarge
Following the scandalous discussion of the Lafarge-terrorist organization relations in France and the reflection of the issue in the court, the intelligence officer, code-named AM 02, appeared in court on Nov. 18, 2018.
According to the record of the statement, the officer admitted that Lafarge was his source of information in Syria.
The intelligence officer told the judge how the French secret services took advantage of the Lafarge factory.
In the records, the intelligence officer did not exclude Daesh/ISIS, saying Lafarge sent cement to all armed groups in Syria (including the al-Nusra Front) in 2012-2014.
“We approached the situation purely opportunistically, taking advantage of Lafarge’s continued work,” the intelligence officer said in the court.
French intelligence knows Lafarge provides cement to Daesh/ISIS terror group
The details of sending cement to the Daesh/ISIS terrorist organization were discussed in a Sept. 1, 2014 correspondence between Veillard, Lafarge’s security director, and the intelligence of the French Interior Ministry.
It was obvious that the French state was aware of Lafarge’s relations with the terrorist organization at the time, which can be inferred from the French intelligence’s statement, saying: “Could you give more details about the cement provided to Daesh?”
Some documents reached by Anadolu Agency indicate that there were more than 30 meetings between Lafarge and the French domestic, foreign, and military intelligence services between 2013 and 2014 alone.
With the supplied cement, Daesh/ISIS is known to have constructed fortified shelters and tunnel networks against the Coalition powers led by the US.
Lafarge conveyed field information to French intelligence
In response to the allegations, Veillard gave testimony to the police on Nov. 30, 2017.
According to the recorded statement accessed by Anadolu Agency, he tried proving that he informed the French state and intelligence institutions about everything he did.
Information related to the meetings, field conditions, as well as speculations that the security director heard were in the appendices of the statement record.
It was found out that Veillard conveyed the field information related to clashes and the military balances between the armed groups.
A handwritten note by Veillard, which was “sent to the French foreign intelligence” was also included in the appendices.
Legal fate
Reports claiming that Lafarge regularly financed Daesh/ISIS during the Syrian civil war surfaced in France in 2016.
According to the French media, the company also supplied materials and fuel to the terror organization for it to continue its activities in the Celibiye region of Syria.
In 2017, while the company admitted having made payments to the armed groups in Syria, it denied allegations of “complicity in crimes against humanity.”
After investigations, eight managers, including two high-ranking officers, were accused of financing terrorism and cooperating in committing crimes against humanity.
The charge of “complicity in crimes against humanity” was dropped in November 2019.
In response, non-governmental organizations took the case to the French Supreme Court, which upheld charges against Lafarge of “financing terrorism”.
Anadolu Agency accesses documents showing French intelligence aware of Lafarge financing Daesh/ISIS
Some documents reached by Anadolu Agency indicate that there were multiple meetings between Lafarge and the French domestic, foreign, and military intelligence services - Anadolu Ajansı
www.aa.com.tr
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So we have anti atgm systems or not?
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Not as I can understand. Authorities in Turkey are not willing to meet and discuss without having the blueprints in their hands, so inventors go elsewhere.
imagine our own OPV was sold to German company in the 70’s by TSK because they didn’t trust our own ppl being able to build it. Just one example.
well seems DS also printed the story
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imagine our own OPV was sold to German company in the 70’s by TSK because they didn’t trust our own ppl being able to build it. Just one example.
well seems DS also printed the story
Macron's 'fight against terror' exposed in Lafarge-Daesh affair
Newly discovered documents published late Tuesday exposed that cement giant Lafarge informed France's intelligence services about its relations with...
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TSK has no anti ATGM systems for troops and base protection.
I asked SSM for an introduction and a DEMO before the projects were handed over to the client. (BW CONSULTING) I agreed to take over all the costs and to offer the systems to TSK free of charge.
But Mr. Basa from SSM only wanted to see documents and drafts via E-mail. Via E-mail !!!!.
Whenever I hear about an ATGM attack on Turkish soldiers, I think of Mr. BASA from the SSM.
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We have to do something about it
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MANPADS aren't much of a threat to modern jets.
It's not normal to fly very low unless you're conducting a SEAD mission or something.
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When you deal with a bully, this government behaves in the worst way. A bully at his core is a coward. He acts when he senses he is stronger then who he's bullying. However he doesn't just rush in and attack the victim, because he isnt so sure that he won't get hit back. So he starts with little things, name calling, insults. Occasional heavy challenges in football. Then he tries to intimidate the victim, stepping up to him and then pushing him around. Once he feels comortable and believes the victim won't do anything he attacks.
This is how the Turkish troops were killed before the idlib retaliation. The same thing is happening again. Russians are entirely predictable, their character hasn't changed. You (AK party) chose to enter syria, you chose to enter this conflict. So stop waiting for a tipping point each time you do something, because all that happens we keep getting tipping points.
The Russians will feel emboldened soon again and attack Turkish troops. If indeed that happens its time to bend them over in Syria.
Had i been in charge of the syrian policy, the moment the russians poke their head out a retaliation of somesort would have occurred. The message would have been you mess with me i'm messing with you and i'm willing to go all the way. The best way to avoid this kind of trouble is when your enemy knows you are willing to go all the way.
When the idlib retaliation came after the Russians killed the Turkish troops, instead of erdogan openly saying " look putin its out of my control, this is militant nation and you killed their sons in the most cowardly of ways, if i try to stop this they will have my head" he came out begging for a meeting.
That whole situation could have been played to resolve the entire northern syria problem. But nope, he wanted a meeting. So we got a half measure, an open wound that the same enemy gets to exploit again.
Russia has no means to invade and occupy Turkey, they can't afford an all out war against Turkey over northern Syria. They won't attack Turkey because the straights will be closed and they have no means of alleviating that.
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When the Azeri/Armenian war started it was telling that the Russians bombed and killed a rebel base in Turkish controlled Syria as a way to threaten Turkey over her support of Azerbaijan. It was telling that they didnt target Turkish troops, they revealed their hand with that attack. They had anxieties that the cost of killing Turkish troops again would be too high and they didn't dare risk it.
Before that attack no doubts they would have been discussing do we attack Turkish troops directly or do we attack Turkish supported rebels. They would have wanted to attack Turkish troops, but they feared that there would be an extreme cost to this.
Moral of the story, hit the russians hard and they are less likely to hit you. Show weakness and they will look for any opportunity to harm you.
Before that attack no doubts they would have been discussing do we attack Turkish troops directly or do we attack Turkish supported rebels. They would have wanted to attack Turkish troops, but they feared that there would be an extreme cost to this.
Moral of the story, hit the russians hard and they are less likely to hit you. Show weakness and they will look for any opportunity to harm you.
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Honestly when the Ottoman Empire was weakening our sultans believed appeasing russia would lead to russia leaving us alone. But our sultans made a big mistake as you constantly feed the bear it wants more and more until it eats you.
Not just the Ottomans anybody who constantly appeases Russia ends up the same. Remember how the Western allies of ww2 appeased the Soviets which led to them taking over most of Eastern Europe
