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At some point we will need to discuss the escalation latter and the consequences of the possible Israeli Turkish standoff.
 

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Hama hava üssüne toplamda 18 hava saldırısı gerçekleşti, T-4 Tiyas üssüne ise 2 hava saldırısı gerçekleşti. Hama hava üssü zannımca tamamen imha oldu. T-4 Tiyas'ta ise büyük zarar vardı, bugünle birlikte bence o da büyük oranda tahrip gördü. Bu işin %100 karlı çıkanı İsrail'dir. Türkiye hem laf dalaşında hem de sahada İsrail'e karşı ilk roundu bence dümdüz kaybetti. Lafa değil icraate bakmak lazım, İsrail her türlü icraati gerçekleştirdi. Bekleyene mi laf söyleyeceğiz bekletene mi? Bilemiyorum ancak bu konuda daha fazla bir şey konuşmak istemiyorum çünkü dilim sivrilecek. Yazık sadece, çok yazık.
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A total of 18 airstrikes were carried out on Hama airbase, and 2 airstrikes were carried out on T-4 Tiyas base. I think Hama air base was completely destroyed. There was great damage to T-4 Tiyas, and I think it has also been largely destroyed as of today. The one who has come out 100% profitable in this business is Israel. Türkiye has lost the first round flat against Israel, both in the verbal exchanges and on the field. We need to look at the actions, not the words. Israel has done everything it can. Shall we speak ill of the one who waits or the one who makes us wait? I don't know but I don't want to talk more about this because my tongue will be sharpened. It's just a shame, a very shame.
 

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ou gave the answer to this post during your previous comments

In your previous post, you clearly stated why Turkey needs to delve deep into Syria and take the T4 airbase and that is to prevent the Israeli/Druze-PKK route from forming and that is exactly why the TAF wants Palmyra and that is why Israel wanna prevent them from doing so by conducting airstrikes

To clarify, I think T4 is important, but as stated previously air superiority is necessary. Like others stated, air defences by their own are just targets against a well orchestrated attack, and F-16s can't really do much against their F-35s. If Kızılelmas were in the inventory, that would definitely scare them off.

The north got ignored and AKP made peace with PKK/YPG... now they're a ticking timb bomb. I say take the whole north and screw their corridor.
 

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To clarify, I think T4 is important, but as stated previously air superiority is necessary. Like others stated, air defences by their own are just targets against a well orchestrated attack, and F-16s can't really do much against their F-35s. If Kızılelmas were in the inventory, that would definitely scare them off.

The north got ignored and AKP made peace with PKK/YPG... now they're a ticking timb bomb. I say take the whole north and screw their corridor.


A war conists off Air, land and sea. F35 is good but not that good, we need to give a message back at this level they will not listen. Bomb near ther border or bomb something.
 

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You mean Turkey will not deploy any Air Defence at T-4 Base ?

BTW: There were Strikes on T-4 Airbase, this could be seen as a direct Warning to Turkey.

There wasn’t even any action taken against ypg terrorists when a golden opportunity presented itself. Israel did more to hamper a possible Turkish military buildup in Syria than the Turkish government did against a literal terrorist statelet right at its border. That alone says enough. Arresting political opponents and thereby causing further economic instability seems to be more important for Erdogan. An ever repeating clownshow. No matter how often Erdogan prays, Allah will not somehow destroy the israeli threat, a capable military backed by a strong and secure economy that can upkeep said military force is the only option.
 

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A war conists off Air, land and sea. F35 is good but not that good, we need to give a message back at this level they will not listen. Bomb near ther border or bomb something.
That's what Iran did... Yeah let's lob some missiles towards them, that'll teach them!

We couldn't even destroy their statelet and terrorists are freely roaming across the north now, they're even in the Syrian government!

Absolute clownshow

Nothing good will happen under AKP, stop holding your breaths. Fidan is literally a Kurd.
 
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The world is burning litteraly as we write our opinions, Trump have started Tarif wars :D, ther was a tweet that Turkish engineers were killed but not confirmed.
 

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Calls for jihad against Israel are being made from mosques around the Syrian capital Damascus.


Annnnnd Israel will enter and grab another portion of Syria some time soon.

Had the mosques been calling for development, industrialisation, education, progress, advancement, civil liberty and personal freedoms maybe Muslims would stop getting rekt by the kafir. Nope, instead the grifters at the top who sit on their arses and make all the money off the followers of the faith work to push the followers fight a war they cannot win.

Also worth keeping in mind that erdogan in the end cut a deal with the PKK in syria instead of commiting the army full force. If he wont do it against the PKK then he wont do it against Isreal/USA. But all the talking is putting Erdogan in a corner, if your going to keep making threats, barking like a mad middle eastern dictator, then your leaving yourself open to be humilated.

As far as Syria is concerned, the strategy should be incremental and it should take about 20 to 30 years. Step by step, build bases in the north and gradually over years move south as domestic capabilities improve. The Syrians are going to have to bite the short term zionist bullet if they intend to win the long term. The economic development should really start and expand outward from the regions the Turkish military is present until the Syrians have their own military capacity.
 
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Syrian army ambushed near Dara zionists, several killed Israel channel 14. Syria will another difficult level for the zionists, this is big ground they will not able to defend long time. They do not have the logistics and manpower to go in war, specially not against us. Syrians are fighting...

 

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Had the mosques been calling for development, industrialisation, education, progress, advancement, civil liberty and personal freedoms maybe Muslims would stop getting rekt by the kafir. Nope, instead the grifters at the top who sit on their arses and make all the money off the followers of the faith work to push the followers fight a war they cannot win.

Also worth keeping in mind that erdogan in the end cut a deal with the PKK in syria instead of commiting the army full force. If he wont do it against the PKK then he wont do it against Isreal/USA. But all the talking is putting Erdogan in a corner, if your going to keep making threats, barking like a mad middle eastern dictator, then your leaving yourself open to be humilated.

As far as Syria is concerned, the strategy should be incremental and it should take about 20 to 30 years. Step by step, build bases in the north and gradually over years move south as domestic capabilities improve. The Syrians are going to have to bite the short term zionist bullet if they intend to win the long term. The economic development should really start and expand outward from the regions the Turkish military is present until the Syrians have their own military capacity.

When your land is invaded you fight back.

I really hope the Syrians start fcking zionist thugs up.

Us Turks were barely industrialised still our ancestors had balls to fight back the invaders.
 

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