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Sanchez

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How do you mean ? In which Aspects ?
It's the camel story basically.

His premise is wrong, for starters. Israel didn't just use ALBMs against Iran. They used everything from small drones to kill Haniyeh to cruise missiles and ALBMs. F-35s may or may not have flew all the way to Zagros mountains or not, we do not know. There is nothing to suggest Israel only used ALBMs against Iran and they would only ALBMs against a possible base in Syria. They have 2 squadrons of F-35s. They can literally loiter over the base unhampered, jam our own EW equipment and strike any targets they deem a threat.

His retelling of Iran's air attacks against Israel are leaving much to be desired. Iran sent more than 200 missiles against Israel in the october attack, about 20 to 30 of which struck ground in Nevatim, Tel Nof and Tel Aviv. To achieve this 85% interception rate, Israel used multiple Arrow 3, Davids Sling batteries, US navy ships off the coast and had real time intelligence sharing by US satellites and ships in the Basra Gulf. It was the first ever case of modern ABM systems in action. History was made that night. And we have nothing like it as he adds.

But, his premise is still wrong. Israel doesn't have to use ballistic missiles to strike a Turkish base in Syria. It somehow reads as "we can't defend against it anyway, why bother, we should on the contrary, place offensive weapons that can reach Israel." Dismissing the very real notion that those same offensive weapons will also be in the crosshairs of every US satellite and the F-35s we can't see coming from 100kms away. Why would we put very expensive weapons in a place we can't defend, in an area that is not covered by Article 5 in the first place, telling the other side that "yes, we are fucking retards that can't defend ourselves against you but here are some 10 ballistic missiles that I will aim at you that you will very likely intercept anyway." Where is the sense in this, apart from making hundreds of soldiers very clear targets.

We are not US, we don't have nukes. There is history of others actually striking us and us doing nothing or doing very little in return in Libya and in Syria.

If we are going to escalate, we should do so smartly at our own terms, not idiotically at theirs.
 

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Believe it or not, the destruction of Syria's existing equipment is a blessing in disguise. Turkey and Syria can now focus on developing a truly modern and professional force from a blank sheet. No resources will need to be dedicated to keep useless Russian jets/air defence/EW operational. It is obvious for everyone that within the next 10-15 years, Israel will be at the mercy of the Turks. The US is fading away, and Turkiye will be the ONLY regional power of significance. This is why Israel and some of the arab are hellbent on containing Turkiye today.

As an American geopolitical expert said about the future of the region. The US will increasingly isolate itself and withdraw from Europe, ME and Africa. Israel will have few options left to secure its existence in a hostile region. Of these option only the guardianship of Turkiye is viable for them. Nor France or the UK will have the means to keep Turkiye away from harming Israel, so the israelis will have to one way or another make amends with Turkiye. The current idiotic leadership of israel fails to see this and they are hellbent to end their own existence in the near future.

When we say Isreal, we have to be honest with ourselves. We are talking about the extension of Anglo-American power and their lessor European lackeys etc. Having the power to defeat Isreal alone is not enough, you need to have the power to curtail the influence and strength of her backers.

Cyprus is a good example of what i mean. Cyprus does not hold anywhere near the same value that Isreal holds to the west but its still important in controlling and influencing the eastern med and also gives a nation great power to project in the levant.

As we know the Greek cypriots under their Christian orthodox leadership started a campaign to exterminate the Muslim Turks on the island. It went on for 10 years and every step of the way Turkiye was threateneded and intimidated by nations such as the US, UK, France, Russia not to do anything. It took 10 years to act and the Turks swiftly crushed the Fanatical Christian Greeks. Since then nothing but peace on the island, but its been 50 years and the south has not only been recognised but it was admitted into the EU. The north remains unrecognised.

Turks had the power to defeat the greek enemy and her influence was important enough and big enough that neither the US or the Soviets intervened against us. Yet we still don't have the influence to make the world recognise the north.

If the Ummah is to weak and to cowardly to even recognise the Turkish republic of Northern Cyprus in fear that they anger the white man, its foolish to think that today Isreal can be defeated.

For Turks to win this game its going to take another 50 to 100 years. With incremental gains expanding Turkish influence outwards and constant technological progression.

When we look at Syria, it was Turkiyes own development of armed drones and her revolutionary use of them that saved the Syrian opposition. Today that opposition administers the nation. Its an example of an incremental gain. It will have to be this way for the next 50 years at least.
 

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To send a clear message to Turkey, the Israeli Air Force carried out a series of bombings that completely destroyed the T-4 airport and its contents, preventing its use for a long time. While Turkey can rebuild these airports, the destruction was primarily intended to signal to Ankara that Israel would not allow such actions.

 

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