Military Operations Syria

[YeşilVatan]

Some of you have serious, serious issues. What must one smoke to unironically write such sentence, that "Turkey won victory in Karabakh". Unlike Libya and Syria, there was and is no significant Turkish military presence. Turkey even had air defence batteries in Libya fyi. Azerbaijan obviously don’t need such a thing, because it’s not a militia but a state army. It operates HQ-9BE, Barak-MX, Buk-MB2K etc. You had ancient Hawks in Libya.

What did Turkey win in Karabakh? What does that even mean? Is Turkey controlling Karabakh? By power of telepathy?

To equate Azerbaijan with militias of Libya and Syria, yes you must be smoking something.

Is Syria able to procure and operate 150 modern self-propelled howitzers? 300 automatic self-propelled mortars? How about dozens of PULS guided rocket launchers? Btw, some people ask "why Azerbaijan do not buy these from Turkey", well, your howitzers are just howitzers installed on back of a truck, these are turreted, automatic howitzers. Maybe Syria can buy your truck howitzers tho, if you donate some.

As for the "Bayraktars", it’s time to move on, it’s getting really, really boring. Azerbaijan is operating AESA equipped fighter jets and these guys are still yapping about a MALE UAV that has been exported to 40 countries.

Victory in Karabagh can be considered Turkish victory in some sense. It's not our achievement, meaning we didn't %100 make it happen. I would describe our contribution to the war effort as minor but indispensable. In the end, it's a giant win that helps us a lot with our geopolitical position.

I wouldn't get too hung up on this. Most Turks, especially Turks who tend to browse this forum, don't really consider Azerbaijan to be a totally seperate country. They don't mean this in a domineering way like Russia does to Ukraine but Azerbaijan's win is literally is our win, we are proud of our contribution to it, we don't harbor any ill will towards our brothers across Aras.

 

[YeşilVatan]

That is a cap and you know it. They think Turkish army directly fought in the war, which btw is same as what Armenians claim. So congrats to those people I guess, as they are on same page as Armenians (Armenians of course also add Pakistan, Israel and Jedis to the list).

Btw, Azerbaijani state is extremely unhappy with that rhetoric in Turkey, and it even prompted state newspaper to write an article on it, in 2023 or 2024 I believe.

I'm telling you, you don't need to worry about them. People who think like this have zero political power because they will vote Erdogan directly or indirectly, therefore accept his machiavellian machinations. Anyone who swallows that kind of rhetoric has their brains mortgaged to whatever psy-ops the presidency comms team has for them.

The Turkish state knows its bounds. It's just that our people's perception of reality is completely scrambled by a completely deranged media environment. Do you remember those Palestine activists who tried to cause some ruckus with SOCAR-Israel thing? Riot police cracked their skulls. Good enough for me.

 

[Corvus]

Some of you have serious, serious issues. What must one smoke to unironically write such sentence, that "Turkey won victory in Karabakh". Unlike Libya and Syria, there was and is no significant Turkish military presence. Turkey even had air defence batteries in Libya fyi. Azerbaijan obviously don’t need such a thing, because it’s not a militia but a state army. It operates HQ-9BE, Barak-MX, Buk-MB2K etc. You had ancient Hawks in Libya.

What did Turkey win in Karabakh? What does that even mean? Is Turkey controlling Karabakh? By power of telepathy?

To equate Azerbaijan with militias of Libya and Syria, yes you must be smoking something.

Is Syria able to procure and operate 150 modern self-propelled howitzers? 300 automatic self-propelled mortars? How about dozens of PULS guided rocket launchers? Btw, some people ask "why Azerbaijan do not buy these from Turkey", well, your howitzers are just howitzers installed on back of a truck, these are turreted, automatic howitzers. Maybe Syria can buy your truck howitzers tho, if you donate some.

Azerbaijan is operating AESA equipped fighter jets and these guys are still yapping about a MALE UAV that has been exported to 40 countries.

I understand your point and I agree that we Turks must humble our rhetoric as it comes very arrogant and self-centered. Not just in the case of Azerbaijan but also in many other cases.

The victory in Karabagh is at the end won by Azerbaijan and its brave soldiers who fought and sacrificed their lives. We don't underestimate this.

However, Türkiye was the main figure behind the scenes militarily and diplomatically. It was literally Türkiye trained Azerbaijani military from its foundation. Dozens of years of training, joint exercises and armament is not something to overlook.

Turkish command was directly involved in operation planning and execution. I can also assure you that Turkish Special Forces were on the field alongside with the Syrian elements. (We officially don't accept that so I'm not gonna comment on this further). Not to mention that Türkiye gave TB2s directly from its inventory thus triggering sanctions from Canada as their Wescam optics weren't supposed to be exported. Known and unknown, many other military support was given. We could also talk about Azerbaijan exporting its oil&gas and establishing close relations with the West through Türkiye and balancing Russia&Iran in the region.

I don't think this war could even start without Türkiye's solid stance considering the Iranian and Russian positions on the issue.

I'm not saying these to look down on Azerbaijan. We were patient, we (meaning Azerbaijan and Türkiye) took the right steps together and finished the job with good timing. Let's not exaggarate and brag about Türkiye's role but let's not deny it as well.

 

[Pilatino]

Since that fuckface named Barrrack also wrote about it, it fuels my fear that the people who was attacked in that airbase was Turkish soldiers, but that it's being kept hidden from the public AGAIN. I hope I'm just imagining things.

 

[I_Love_F16]

That is a cap and you know it. They think Turkish army directly fought in the war, which btw is same as what Armenians claim. So congrats to those people I guess, as they are on same page as Armenians (Armenians of course also add Pakistan, Israel and Jedis to the list).

Btw, Azerbaijani state is extremely unhappy with that rhetoric in Turkey, which was propagated directly by pro-government media, and it even prompted Azerbaijan’s state newspaper to write an article on it, in 2023 or 2024 I believe.

it wasn’t long ago that Turkish minister of internal affairs (I could be wrong) blurted something like "we will go to Jerusalem just as we went to Libya and Karabakh". It’s particularly funny when Turkish officials threaten Israel with "just like we went to Karabakh", given that Israel remains a major weapon supplier to Azerbaijan.

Don't you know that the Erdogan administration is playing the mass. It's nothing but pure cinema, comedy and theatre.

 

[Lool]

It seems that the US knew about the Israeli strikes beforehand
And, as mentioned, Israel didnt want Syria to gain certain offensive capabilities after refurbishing this base

Israeli senior official, to FOX News (regarding the Abu Duhur attack): "Extremely sensitive intelligence, at the highest levels of various institutions and organizations, was shared with the United States in advance."
"El-Shara understands that he cannot operate in a manner that involves proxy forces, like the previous Syrian regime. Perhaps he doesn't understand what's happening or doesn't know."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2089708869983338651

A source knowledgeable about Israel's attack on the Abu Duhur airbase told the Jerusalem Post: "Israel has recently provided the US with intelligence regarding the Syrian army's efforts to increase its military capacity."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2089708082259427467

 

[MS Sandhu]

Warriors my ass. Beating a bunch of incompetent Arabs is not the hall mark of such a badass military forces that they try perceive it to be.

Just a rabid dog. That is attacking everybody.

They beat shit out of Persians in june war without the involvement of US in offensive operations.
Took down the whole leadership of Iran in one single opening operation. No other nation on Earth can claim such a decisive victory on enemy except America.
Israelis are a serious force that shouldn't be underestimated.
If you want to, do so on your own expense.

 

[Pilatino]

They beat shit out of Persians in june war without the involvement of US in offensive operations.
Took down the whole leadership of Iran in one single opening operation. No other nation on Earth can claim such a decisive victory on enemy except America.
Israelis are a serious force that shouldn't be underestimated.
If you want to, do so on your own expense.

Of course, they can do this and that but still wouldn't be able survive against an invasion including land forces due to their population and geography.

 

[MS Sandhu]

Of course, they can do this and that but still wouldn't be able survive against an invasion including land forces due to their population and geography.

What an innocent comment.
Israel maintains complete air superiority over its rivals like Iran, Turkey, Egypt & Co.
Moving land forces without local air dominance is like walking under hell breaking loose.

 

[Pilatino]

What an innocent comment.
Israel maintains complete air superiority over its rivals like Iran, Turkey, Egypt & Co.
Moving land forces without local air dominance is like walking under hell breaking loose.

I repeat, they can't survive it. Even if you multiply their air force with 3x more that still wouldn't be enough to stop a coordinated invasion including land forces.

 

[Sanchez]

an invasion including land forces

That's an absurd undertaking.

 

[Pilatino]

That's an absurd undertaking.

Enjoy the condemning text of MFA then.

 

[Tonyukuk]

1. Be the first to condemn Israel and be the most vocal against them
2. Watch in awe as Iran strikes them
3. Start talking to PKK
4. Remove Assad regime and end Iranian and Russian presence in Syria, giving Israel huge advantage and weakening Hezbollah
5. Airbases get hit by Israel preemptively, condemn them
6. Israel takes Syrian land
7. Make peace PKK and allow terrorists to freely walk the streets of Türkiye
8. Israel continues to strike bases before you can use them. Condemn them again

 

[Tonyukuk]

When the Israel-Palestine war started Türkiye could've dealt a final blow to PKK and used it as an excuse to take over all of northern Syria.

But instead, it just removed the actual forced that were fighting Israel and made itself the next "enemy of Israel". Erdoğan kept on making threats, MPs with an IQ of 85 threatened to land troops in Jerusalem and it was a total clown show.

And now we're stuck with no 5th generation jets against Israel that has total air supremacy over Syria. Genius.

Türkiye needs new leadership, I can't watch this sh1t anymore

 

[TurkWolf]

Of course, they can do this and that but still wouldn't be able survive against an invasion including land forces due to their population and geography.

Again. Islamist are so fearful of Israel/Israelis like this MS Sandhu guy , they immediately expect us Turks especially Kemalist to be fearful too.

Israelis have their strong points. and i don't want to underestimate them. But lets be real, we Turks are a different breed to Arabs and other Islamic people. We wouldn't run away to Sweden to do protest in Stockholm .

There's no chance in hell Turks would lose against Israel.

Now does that mean we should go to war at this very minute? No. But in an unlikely scenario a war breaks-out I feel super confident against them.

 

[Tonyukuk]

Again. Islamist are so fearful of Israel/Israelis like this MS Sandhu guy , they immediately expect us Turks especially Kemalist to be fearful too.

Israelis have their strong points. and i don't want to underestimate them. But lets be real, we Turks are a different breed to Arabs and other Islamic people. We wouldn't run away to Sweden to do protest in Stockholm .

There's no chance in hell Turks would lose against Israel.

Now does that mean we should go to war at this very minute? No. But in an unlikely scenario a war breaks-out I feel super confident against them.

Islamists are good goyim to them. Angry, scared, self destructive. Israel would only want peace with a Kemalist Türkiye as it would get utterly destroyed otherwise.

 

[Ryder]

They beat shit out of Persians in june war without the involvement of US in offensive operations.
Took down the whole leadership of Iran in one single opening operation. No other nation on Earth can claim such a decisive victory on enemy except America.
Israelis are a serious force that shouldn't be underestimated.
If you want to, do so on your own expense.

They still needed the USA by the way for this war to happen.

 

[Ryder]

Since that fuckface named Barrrack also wrote about it, it fuels my fear that the people who was attacked in that airbase was Turkish soldiers, but that it's being kept hidden from the public AGAIN. I hope I'm just imagining things.

If its an empty base that means Israel is testing waters.

Turkiye has to play its cards right.

Honestly Turkiye should be eletronically jamming and locking their planes.

Israel is just like Russia you cant reason with them. Heck this entire region the Balkans, Middle East, Eastern Europe and the Caucasus. They are all the same. We get no where with condemnations and barking.

They only understand the iron fist approach.

 

[Saithan]

YPG/PYD asıl düşmanı gördü: İsrail'e karşı savaşırız

Terör örgütü PYD- YPG’nin Ayn el-Arab sorumlusu Mahmut Berhudan, İsrail’in Suriye’deki ilerlemesinin kabul edilemeyeceğini söyledi. “Golan-Kuneytra-Dera hattında da İsrail işgali ve tehdidi sürüyor” diyen Berhudan, Şam yönetiminin sıcak bölgede kendilerine görev vermesi hâlinde İsrail’e karşı...

www.turkiyegazetesi.com.tr

PYD/PKK/SDF post could be translated as such.

"We will keep our weapons and organisation because we will fight Israel."

Perhaps Israel attacking the airbase is an excuse created for PYD/PKK/SDF.

In short they will not disband or dissolve. Which could mean they could pick up arms against Türkiye anytime again. while waiting for geography changes in their favor. Another excuse to not lay down arms. We will see how things unfold.

 

[TurkWolf]

Islamists are good goyim to them. Angry, scared, self destructive. Israel would only want peace with a Kemalist Türkiye as it would get utterly destroyed otherwise.

Yeah the pattern with Islamist. They want all to be scared of Israel.
Any wonder why EU loves AKP so much. nice little servants of Israel.

Israel is just like Russia you cant reason with them. Heck this entire region the Balkans, Middle East, Eastern Europe and the Caucasus. They are all the same. We get no where with condemnations and barking.

And we need a strong leader for this. Erdogan is a coward.
Unless we counting defeating the mighty Libya and Syria as his glorious victories

"We will keep our weapons and organisation because we will fight Israel."

Yeah, I believe them so much.