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It was a disastrous interview in terms of journalism. This CNN turk and its team have no idea about anything related to defence industry and they did not make any resaerch before interview. She called over and over again "missile" for NEB bomb, she was disrespectfully reading messages in her mobile during interview, the channel wrote "the largest missile in the world"...offf
 

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The tweet also gives the arrival times of the ATMACA and OMTAS missiles at their targets, which I think this is the first time that this kind of information has been given about ATMACA.
 

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Omtas infographic

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The tweet also gives the arrival times of the ATMACA and OMTAS missiles at their targets, which I think this is the first time that this kind of information has been given about ATMACA.
There is something not quite right about those arrival times/flight duration times.
Omtas speed is 0.4mach according to I Sunnetci’s tweet. That is in line with this ATGM’s specs. So check.
But he also claims that the same duration is given as 1+ minute for the Atmaca missile.
That doesn’t make sense.
If Atmaca is taking 1+ minutes to reach 4km , then it is too slow. That makes slower than 0.2 Mach. So it is wrong.
Most sources have been quoting 0.85-0.9 Mach speed for Atmaca. (This is commensurate with Exocet and Harpoon speeds)
If it takes 1+ minute/say 2 mins to reach the 250km total range that Atmaca has , then it‘s speed is 6+ Mach. We know that can’t be right too.
 

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Omtas has a max speed of 0.6 Mach. If we take getting ready to fire and acceleration and deceleration after motor burnout into account 30 seconds is logical. This puts the average speed at 0.4 Mach. It is designed that way intentionally to give the user the time to update the mission if necessary. The total flight time of Atmaca should be higher than 12 minutes (0.9 Mach and 220km).
 

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I remember that a friend here wrote that the maximum effective ranges of omtas and umtas are more. omtas like 5.5 km and umtas 10.5 km. we know that new verson of umtas is 16 km now, but he or she was talking about first versions if I remember correctly
 

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I remember that a friend here wrote that the maximum effective ranges of omtas and umtas are more. omtas like 5.5 km and umtas 10.5 km. we know that new verson of umtas is 16 km now, but he or she was talking about first versions if I remember correctly
Yes, you are right but we are talking about officially advertised ranges. Omtas and Umtas hit targets 5.5kms and 10.5kms away respectively in live fire trials conducted by the land forces.
 

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TAF arsenal of JSOW include 50 BASELINE/BLU-108 and 54 UNITARY


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JSOW production has been terminated in 2016

Tubiktak developed KGK for similar role.
so, i dont think TURAF need JSOW anymore.
KGK is infinitely better than JSOW's. i know that. i dont want us to reinvent the wheel.
BLU-108 is the submunition dispensed from JSOW's. excellent for tank-plinking. i want THAT to be reverse engineered and manufactured in mass numbers!

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look at those suckers go!
 

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KGK is infinitely better than JSOW's. i know that. i dont want us to reinvent the wheel.
Does the KGK has data link, anti spoofing as well as ability to hit moving and maritime targets like the JSOW C-1?
 

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kgk has active radar seeker too:


and there is also winged version of laçin (INS/GPS/IIR guided munition + 2 way datalink via L-POD):

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Mr Demir said we are now able to launch KGKs with improved ranges, cause it is now possible to launch them from 50 000 feet and at higher speeds. We don't know the improved range. older range was 110 km. (40 000 feet 0.9 mach)
 

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There is something not quite right about those arrival times/flight duration times.
Omtas speed is 0.4mach according to I Sunnetci’s tweet. That is in line with this ATGM’s specs. So check.
But he also claims that the same duration is given as 1+ minute for the Atmaca missile.
That doesn’t make sense.
If Atmaca is taking 1+ minutes to reach 4km , then it is too slow. That makes slower than 0.2 Mach. So it is wrong.
Most sources have been quoting 0.85-0.9 Mach speed for Atmaca. (This is commensurate with Exocet and Harpoon speeds)
If it takes 1+ minute/say 2 mins to reach the 250km total range that Atmaca has , then it‘s speed is 6+ Mach. We know that can’t be right too.
It confused me at first as well but the tweet says time to maximum range. So, 4km for OMTAS but obviously much further for Atmaca.
 
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