TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

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If i haven't misheard in the past, Baykar was interested in engine business in the past but don't know what is the current stage. It doesn't make for TJ class but that would have been interesting if they have truly put Black Sea Shield in action and established a factory here. Still it would be hard for them to withdraw engineers or technicians from TEI - GE - Kale.
 

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I don’t approve much to be used the limited sources of companies and also country as well. Some companies should focus on certain professional areas. We have three companies which produce engine from mini to giant. ( idealab, kale and tei)
We don’t have sufficient resources to divide much.
baykar should concentrate its own expertise which is unmanned airplane/aircrafts.
 

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Is in long term a Development of a AA Missile planned for Kaan which have similar Characteristics like the PL-17 ? The PL-17 is a long-range BVR Missile which aim to destroy Tanker, AWACS and MPA. The Rabge of the Missile is up to 400 km.

In my Opinion there is a need for such an Missile, since Greece and France signed a mutual Defence Pact and EU Article 42.7 is uncertainty Factor.
 

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Is in long term a Development of a AA Missile planned for Kaan which have similar Characteristics like the PL-17 ? The PL-17 is a long-range BVR Missile which aim to destroy Tanker, AWACS and MPA. The Rabge of the Missile is up to 400 km.

In my Opinion there is a need for such an Missile, since Greece and France signed a mutual Defence Pact and EU Article 42.7 is uncertainty Factor.

PL-17 size missile cannot be carried inside weapon bay. Also, it is only meant to arm Chinese flankers. LO platforms don't need them because they can get much closer.
 

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PL-17 size missile cannot be carried inside weapon bay. Also, it is only meant to arm Chinese flankers. LO platforms don't need them because they can get much closer.


It will be far better if such an Missile would fit in internal Weapons Bay, but if it's technicly archieveable it's another Question ? It's difficult even with LO Aircraft to come close to enemy Tanker, AWACS and MPA. Even with Gökhan BVR Missile, Kaan need to come close to the Missile max. Range. This mean the Escort can be capable to launch their BVR Missiles on Kaan.
 

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Is in long term a Development of a AA Missile planned for Kaan which have similar Characteristics like the PL-17 ? The PL-17 is a long-range BVR Missile which aim to destroy Tanker, AWACS and MPA. The Rabge of the Missile is up to 400 km.

In my Opinion there is a need for such an Missile, since Greece and France signed a mutual Defence Pact and EU Article 42.7 is uncertainty Factor.
Just a question pl-15 approximately same dimension like hisar rf (hisar rf slightly bigger ). With its total energy, can hisar rf reach 200 km air to air if it fired from high speed platform. I dont mention about guidance and targeting system .
 

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Is in long term a Development of a AA Missile planned for Kaan which have similar Characteristics like the PL-17 ? The PL-17 is a long-range BVR Missile which aim to destroy Tanker, AWACS and MPA. The Rabge of the Missile is up to 400 km.

In my Opinion there is a need for such an Missile, since Greece and France signed a mutual Defence Pact and EU Article 42.7 is uncertainty Factor.
We could strap Siper missiles to KAAN for such purpose. Heck, if developed accordingly, KAAN's current weapons bay's could pack 2 Siper block-2's with boosters for oodles of range. I calculated that previously on this thread. I recommend you search for it.

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Just a question pl-15 approximately same dimension like hisar rf (hisar rf slightly bigger ). With its total energy, can hisar rf reach 200 km air to air if it fired from high speed platform. I dont mention about guidance and targeting system .
A common way to calculate air-launched range of ground launched munitions is to triple the ground launched range.
With that logic, Siper ürün-1 with 100 km's of range has roughly 300 km's of range when air launched.(excluding things like the size of NEZ for purposes of simplifying
You could also observe this on İHA-122 and İHA-230, which are air launched version of TRG-122 and TRG-230 artillery rockets.
 
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We could strap Siper missiles to KAAN for such purpose. Heck, if developed accordingly, KAAN's current weapons bay's could pack 2 Siper block-2's with boosters for oodles of range. I calculated that previously on this thread. I recommend you search for it.

Edit: here it is:

A common way to calculate air-launched range of ground launched munitions is to triple the ground launched range.
With that logic, Siper ürün-1 with 100 km's of range has roughly 300 km's of range when air launched.(excluding things like the size of NEZ for purposes of simplifying
You could also observe this on İHA-122 and İHA-230, which are air launched version of TRG-122 and TRG-230 artillery rockets.

If you triple Siper Block II you will come at a Range of 450 km.
 

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Is in long term a Development of a AA Missile planned for Kaan which have similar Characteristics like the PL-17 ? The PL-17 is a long-range BVR Missile which aim to destroy Tanker, AWACS and MPA. The Rabge of the Missile is up to 400 km.

In my Opinion there is a need for such an Missile, since Greece and France signed a mutual Defence Pact and EU Article 42.7 is uncertainty Factor.

Kaan doesn’t need such missile, Gökhan will be more than enough to do the job. Also don’t forget that when you shoot your missile, you have to maintain the lock all the way to the target, at least close enough for your missile to activate it’s tiny radar and lock the target by itself, typically when it is a few Nautical Miles from it.

And I think it would be pretty hard to consistently lock a plane at that range.
 

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My dream weapon failed in Ukraine due to EW GPS jamming.


How could our TRG artillery rockets work?
There is a lesson for Turkish defense industry

 

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