TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[BalkanTurk90]

Does Turkey have anything close to Iran's Fattah?​

CENK perhaps is the closest to it with range , speed and manoeuvrability.

 

[Strong AI]

That's a pretty nice infographic. Sad that longest ranged missiles we have just go <280km.

Please, >280 km
Some ranges are not accurate, like e.g. Kara Atmaca and SOM-J. (enough to trigger me)
But yeah, overall a nice infographic.

 

[Pokemonte13]

Please, >280 km
Some ranges are not accurate, like e.g. Kara Atmaca and SOM-J. (enough to trigger me)
But yeah, overall a nice infographic.

It’s the official release of them we all know that that 250+/280+ is not their real range

 

[mTT]

That's a pretty nice infographic. Sad that longest ranged missiles we have just go <280km.

Please, >280 km
Some ranges are not accurate, like e.g. Kara Atmaca and SOM-J. (enough to trigger me)
But yeah, overall a nice infographic.

It’s the official release of them we all know that that 250+/280+ is not their real range

MTCR (Missile Technology Control Regime) ?

 

[Strong AI]

It’s the official release of them we all know that that 250+/280+ is not their real range

Official range of SOM-J is 275 km.

https://www.roketsan.com.tr/products/som-j-stand-missile

 

[Pokemonte13]

Official range of SOM-J is 275 km.

https://www.roketsan.com.tr/products/som-j-stand-missile

I know but in general when the range is more than 300 they say those numbers

 

[Huelague]

MTCR (Missile Technology Control Regime) ?

Have you ever read what they say?

 

[Strong AI]

I know but in general when the range is more than 300 they say those numbers

Yes but imo you misinterpret me. In the infographic, the range of SOM-J is given as 200 km. Like they can write >280 km but can't write 275 km?

 

[Strong AI]

Under our ongoing space access projects, we are continuing work on developing a satellite launch system. We plan to conduct the first launch test of the Şimşek-1 system—which can place satellites weighing at least 400 kg into low Earth orbit (550 km)—in 2027. For satellites weighing up to 1,500 kg and destined for 700 km sun-synchronous orbits, we are continuing conceptual design work on the Şimşek-2 launch system and aim to initiate its development and testing by the end of this year. Our goal is for Şimşek-2 to be capable of deploying our reconnaissance satellites into orbit in the future.

In fact, you can see where Turkey is in the ballistic missiles tech by comparing the rocket technologies of countries with similar SLV technology. Israel is the closest example to Turkey in this regard.

Israel Shavit SLV: 1.35m diameter, 300/500kg payload to 600km altitude
Israel Jerinco-3 ballistic missile: 1.56m diameter, 1000kg warhead to around 5000km


Turkey MUFA (2026): 1.35m diameter, 400kg payload to 550km
Turkey Şimşek UFA (~2030): ~2.5m diameter, 1500kg to 700/800km (Most likely, Those figures will be updated thanks to more advanced cryogenic rocket engine tech)

With the ŞİMŞEK-1 Launch Vehicle, which will have a payload capacity of 400 kilograms, it is aimed to reach an altitude of 550 kilometers in 2027.

This indirectly says a lot. It makes MRBM distances possible when the missile's apogee reached above 350-400km. Roughly, a ballistic missile capable of covering a distance of 2000 km climbs to an altitude of 500 kilometers on average.

Also, It can be accepted that Roketsan currently produces/can produce ballistic missiles that can reach a distance of +500 km, as of 2018/20.

Thanks for information bro. Let's go into a little more detail about ballistic missile and apogee altitudes.

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[UkroTurk]

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1934667658265583980

Etki yarıçapı 500m??

Impact radius:500m? İt seems inaccurate to me.

 

[TheInsider]

Etki yarıçapı 500m??

Impact radius:500m? İt seems inaccurate to me.

CEP and impact radius are two different parameters.

 

[UkroTurk]

CEP and impact radius are two different parameters.

Read it. They mentioned both CEP and impact radius. If CENK had 1000 kg RDX of conventional warhead , its destructive radius could be 300-500meter. Shattering glasses is also considered as destruction?

 

[Pokemonte13]

Etki yarıçapı 500m??

Impact radius:500m? İt seems inaccurate to me.

500 meters from impact can be damaged

 

[UkroTurk]

500 meters from impact can be damaged

I don't believe it. Windows could be broken just.

 

[Pokemonte13]

I don't believe it. Windows could be broken just.

Yeah depends on structure but if its as precise as they it is it wont make a difference

 

[Sanchez]

Read it. They mentioned both CEP and impact radius. If CENK had 1000 kg RDX of conventional warhead , its destructive radius could be 300-500meter. Shattering glasses is also considered as destruction?

Don't think buildings, think the sensitive stuff inside the buildings and the shockwave the 500kilo warhead creates. It's still small yes, but it's something.

 

[TheInsider]

Read it. They mentioned both CEP and impact radius. If CENK had 1000 kg RDX of conventional warhead , its destructive radius could be 300-500meter. Shattering glasses is also considered as destruction?

Dude do you know what does CEP even mean? Cep under 10 meters means you draw a circle with a radius of 10 meters, and at least 50% of the missiles will fall inside that circle. 43.7% will fall between 10-20 meters and 6.1% will fall between 20-30 meters Do you think the impact radius will matter if you hit the target bullseye?

Please stop talking about things you have no idea about.

 

[Strong AI]

Those numbers are not official, i expect 150 m lethal radius and 300 m radius of structural damage on buildings.
But since it will have almost pinpoint accuracy like Tayfun, imo 150 m radius will be enough.

 

[UkroTurk]

Dude do you know what does CEP even mean? Cep under 10 meters means you draw a circle with a radius of 10 meters, and at least 50% of the missiles will fall inside that circle. 43.7% will fall between 10-20 meters and 6.1% will fall between 20-30 meters Do you think the impact radius will matter if you hit the target bullseye?

Who asks about fvcking CEP.?? I am interested in impact radius.You yourself wrote about CEP.

I am repeating: Impact radius of CENK can't be 500m!

 

[TheInsider]

Who asks about fvcking CEP.?? I am interested in impact radius.You yourself wrote about CEP.

I am repeating: Impact radius of CENK can't be 500m!

And I'm writing, who cares about 500 meters of impact radius if you hit the target bullseye. Having a bigger impact radius is not good for tactical weapons because it causes collateral damage. Do we want a terror weapon or a viable, accurate tactical weapon? Besides, Cenk will have many options like cluster warhead and frag warhead. If you trigger it above the targeted area impact radius can reach 500 meters, which is not far-fetched.

A strike with ATACMS missiles with a cluster warhead against aconcentration of Russian personnel

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