TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[Radonsider]

No it does not! Even aim120 c7 varrient has one way data link. Only meteor, aim120d and pl15 believed to have two way data link in 2022!

And 120C7 is old

Gökdoğan and Bozdoğan are newer than C7

 

[Afif]

This was discussed before. Both Gurcan Okumus of Tubitak Sage and Ismail Demir stated that Gökhan is going to be with liquid fuelled ramjet engines. But there is a small trick here; The liquid fuel used will probably be like the liquid fuel used in Brahmos missiles. That is gel based liquid fuels. This imparts solid fuel like storage and usage characteristics to the fuel. So none of the problems associated with conventional liquid fuels.
Also throttle control with liquid/gel based fuels is much easier than solid fuelled ramjets.

Yeah! But there is still some problem with liquid/gel fuel ramjet A2A, which is speed and acceleration. Usually liquid fuel has the advantage of more range and endurance while SFDR like meteor has better acceleration and speed! Now, if tubitak can make gokhan's cruising speed up to 3 mach and max speed up to 4 mach that's very good! However, my assessment is, the best option for TAF to have a GOKDOGAN ER with duel pulse motor capable of reaching 200 km range and equipped with ka band aesa seeker like aam 4b or hybrid seeker like aim260. That would be better than gokhan or meteor type missile. However, making a 'solid fuel only' missile without any ram engine capable of reaching 200 km effectively is much more harder technologically than a ramjet A2A missile!

 

[Afif]

And 120C7 is old

Gökdoğan and Bozdoğan are newer than C7

As far as I know defence turkey magazine talked about only one way data link for gokdogan!

 

[Radonsider]

As far as I know defence turkey magazine talked about only one way data link for gokdogan!

From what I have found
Twitter posts of Anil Şahin, Kozan Erkan and various others, it does have 2 way datalink

 

[Bogeyman]

Next generation MAM-L(far right)

 

[Bogeyman]

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Next generation MAM-L(far right)

According to our knowledgeable military friends on the subject, it is said that the final version of the MAM-L has now turned into a completely different project after the intense feedback on the MAM-L and its derivatives. There are incomparable differences between them.

 

[Radonsider]

According to our knowledgeable military friends on the subject, it is said that the final version of the MAM-L has now turned into a completely different project after the intense feedback on the MAM-L and its derivatives. There are incomparable differences between them.

Any stats you can share with us?

 

[Bogeyman]

Any stats you can share with us?

These are just the little details mentioned in between. No details unfortunately. I share whatever comes my way.

 

[Heartbang]

does anyone have any idea on how Çakır's Swarm payload version works? i cant wrap my head around on the concept of dedicated swarm missile.
if you could explain the EW version that would be also nice.

 

[Tonyukuk]

does anyone have any idea on how Çakır's Swarm payload version works? i cant wrap my head around on the concept of dedicated swarm missile.
if you could explain the EW version that would be also nice.

I don't know the specifics. But my guess is that the swarm version will communicate with each other much like swarming drones. This way they can approach the target/s as a horde. Could be useful for making enemy air defences go crazy. I'm assuming that the swarming capability will be added to other versions too.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

These are just the little details mentioned in between. No details unfortunately. I share whatever comes my way.

High chance that it will be fire and forget. The biggest problem with MAM-L is you can only use one at a time.

Though I have my doubts when looking at the picture, looks like it has the same laser seeker.

 

[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1563881654485221376

Göktug project on track, Bozdogan soon to grace our F-16

 

[Huelague]

Karaok will enter inventory this year.

 

[Anmdt]

You all think they will just unveil- show siper test for 100th anniversary of the great offensive and victory day? Nah man, i think we will see some 'cool' stuff tomorrow.

 

[Radonsider]

You all think they will just unveil- show siper test for 100th anniversary of the great offensive and victory day? Nah man, i think we will see some 'cool' stuff tomorrow.

Who wouldn't want to

 

[Combat-Master]

High chance that it will be fire and forget. The biggest problem with MAM-L is you can only use one at a time.

Though I have my doubts when looking at the picture, looks like it has the same laser seeker.

Doesn't require Terminal guidance for fire and forget, just needs GNS/INS/IMU and a mission computer that can handle programming co-ordinates. Though, this has already been achieved with the 'optional' navigation package for MAM-L.

You all think they will just unveil- show siper test for 100th anniversary of the great offensive and victory day? Nah man, i think we will see some 'cool' stuff tomorrow.

Perhaps we'll see a roll out of T-929.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

Doesn't require Terminal guidance for fire and forget, just needs GNS/INS/IMU and a mission computer that can handle programming co-ordinates. Though, this has already been achieved with the 'optional' navigation package for MAM-L.

I'm hoping to see a variant with an IIR seeker.

 

[Baris]

gdh defense: When will the Gökdoğan and Bozdoğan air-air missiles enter the inventory?
Industry and Technology Minister Varank:
Gökdoğan and Bozdoğan air-to-air missiles will enter the inventory at the end of this year or, at the latest, in the first quarter of next year.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564675566959312899

 

[Yasar_TR]

GÖZDE güdüm kitinin testleri başladı

TÜBİTAK SAGE tarafından IDEF21'de tanıtılan Mk82 genel maksat bombaları için geliştirilen GÖZDE güdüm kitinin testleri başladı.

www.defenceturk.net

Gozde guidance kit’s field correction tests and integration tests have started.
Gozde will allow 500lb dumb bombs to have pinpoint accuracy for shooting stationary and moving targets. They will be used from f16 planes and UAVs like Aksungur and Akinci.
After Gozde with improved wing structure Gokce will allow 1000lb dumb bombs to be precision guided.
Both bomb kits use laser guidance for moving targets.

New Generation Guidance Kits: GÖKÇE & GÖZDE

www.defenceturkey.com

 

[Anmdt]

I'm hoping to see a variant with an IIR seeker.

We can simply integrate UMTAS-IIR in this case, its range is already 15+ km, UAV launched version might even reach 25+ km if a gliding - boosting optimization done.