TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[Sanchez]

Missed this because of yesterday's news.

Our first complete look at Karaok launcher and its CLU. Wish the big IR sensor was open as well. Wonder if this is the end design for CLU or if we'll see some ergonomics improvements.

Image credits from the fair to Defence Turk and SavunmaSanayiST

 

[CAN_TR]

TAYFUN Türkiye's first hypersonic cruising missile.

TAYFUN SRBM as Turkiye's First Hypersonic Hitter | TURDEF

ROKETSAN has published the technical specifications of TAYFUN SRBM, Turkiye's first hypersonic-cruising missile.

turdef.com

 

[Agha Sher]

TAYFUN Türkiye's first hypersonic cruising missile.

TAYFUN SRBM as Turkiye's First Hypersonic Hitter | TURDEF

ROKETSAN has published the technical specifications of TAYFUN SRBM, Turkiye's first hypersonic-cruising missile.

turdef.com

Cruise missile? what?

 

[Afif]

Cruise missile? what?

No, read again.

 

[Ripley]

No, read again.

Yes but the caption is really misleading though. Easily to be confused as first hypersonic cruise missile.
Edit: obviously the title has got nothing to do with CAN_TR

 

[Yasar_TR]

MKE Develops Extended-Range 122 mm Artillery Rocket | TURDEF

During SAHA EXPO 2024, MKE displayed a mock-up of 122 mm guided artillery rocket fitted with deployable wings for longer ranges.

turdef.com

MKE has developed a new version of 122mm artillery rockets with deployable wings which extends the rocket’s 40km maximum range to 67.5km level. That is similar range of trg230.
This opens the door to apply same technology to the 230 and 300mm artillery rockets with much extended ranges.
Apparently ROK’s GGAM utilises a similar technology for the 155mm artillery rounds to increase their range.

 

[rif.ahm]

does Turkey anything like this? I am not sure if it's a relevant thread to ask or not

 

[boredaf]

does Turkey anything like this? I am not sure if it's a relevant thread to ask or not

Of course we do, it's Omtas.

Roketsan - OMTAS Medium-Range Anti-Tank Missile System

roketsan.com.tr

 

[rif.ahm]

Of course we do, it's Omtas.

Roketsan - OMTAS Medium-Range Anti-Tank Missile System

roketsan.com.tr

not even close. Almas atgm's operational range is 8km and it has fibre optics guidance with two way data link. there is even version 3 with 16km range

 

[UkroTurk]

All credits to me i took 500 photos and no idea how and when upload.

What are the missiles at the left 2 canisters? Gökkurt?

 

[Oublious]

not even close. Almas atgm's operational range is 8km and it has fibre optics guidance with two way data link. there is even version 3 with 16km range

lol

Persian with ther exaggerated specs, in the video you can not see 8km range.

 

[boredaf]

not even close. Almas atgm's operational range is 8km and it has fibre optics guidance with two way data link. there is even version 3 with 16km range

Fibre optics? What is this the 80s? I mean we probably have some TOWs and Milans left in our inventory but other than that we have Karaok for short range, Omtas for mid range and Umtas for long range. None of them use fibre optics, neither do any other modern ATGM.

 

[rif.ahm]

Fibre optics? What is this the 80s? I mean we probably have some TOWs and Milans left in our inventory but other than that we have Karaok for short range, Omtas for mid range and Umtas for long range. None of them use fibre optics, neither do any other modern ATGM.

apparently for some folks spike family of atgm aren't mordren enough

 

[Chocopie]

apparently for some folks spike family of atgm aren't mordren enough View attachment 71430

Afaik fiber optic cables are deemed superior to fire-and-forget data links only for heavy torpedoes launched from submarines.

 

[Sanchez]

Afaik fiber optic cables are deemed superior to fire-and-forget data links only for modern heavy torpedos launched from submarines.

I think SACLOS ATGMs like wire guided TOW can still have a place in the modern jammer/dazzler heavy battlefield. But, it presents too much of a threat to the operator. It can still work great in near peer conflict, and it's cheaper to build too.

 

[rif.ahm]

Afaik fiber optic cables are deemed superior to fire-and-forget data links only for heavy torpedoes launched from submarines.

With fiber optics, operators receive actual real-time visual feedback, enabling last-second adjustments to the missile's trajectory and improving accuracy. In contrast, RF signals are prone to interference and jamming. Additionally, RF signals are more easily detectable, allowing enemies to identify the source and potentially trace it back to the launch point. (collected)

 

[Chocopie]

I think SACLOS ATGMs like wire guided TOW can still have a place in the modern jammer/dazzler heavy battlefield. But, it presents too much of a threat to the operator. It can still work great in near peer conflict, and it's cheaper to build too.

Yeah, until now many tripod-launched ATGMs with longer range use wires. In future they'll cut them lose, costs of seekers+data links go down and as you said, wires make operating teams vulnerable to attacks.

 

[Chocopie]

With fiber optics, operators receive actual real-time visual feedback, enabling last-second adjustments to the missile's trajectory and improving accuracy. In contrast, RF signals are prone to interference and jamming. Additionally, RF signals are more easily detectable, allowing enemies to identify the source and potentially trace it back to the launch point. (collected)

With recent passive dual-band seekers you don't need last-second adjustments through fiber optic wires. Jamming is overrated, wasn't a problem for Akeron & likes in Ukraine.

 

[rif.ahm]

With recent passive dual-band seekers you don't need last-second adjustments through fiber optic wires. Jamming is overrated, wasn't a problem for Akeron & likes in Ukraine.

if Jamming is overrated than we are seeing the use fiber optic guided fpv drones in Ukraine?

 

[boredaf]

if Jamming is overrated than we are seeing the use fiber optic guided fpv drones in Ukraine?

Because Russia shite at overcoming them and/or preventing it from happening in the first place?

Also, I wouldn't trust a single thing Iran claims about their military equipment, at all.