TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[Kartal1]

Large Shape, not tall geometry is identical to submarine launched ballistic missiles.
They should call "Şişman" Fatman

@Fatman17

 

[somegoodusername]

Could that Roketsan video just be a CGI, a stock video, or perhaps show a smaller-sized rocket? There wasn't anything in the video that could help you scale that missile.

 

[Afif]

My guesstimate is this is Chenk. Likely Square canister launcher, the engine thrust looks familiar with the one that one tested for Chenk on the ground by Roketsan. We are not just seeing the fins on the warhead because of bad quality.

 

[Radko]

My guesstimate is this is Chenk. Likely Square canister launcher, the engine thrust looks familiar with the one that one tested for Chenk on the ground by Roketsan. We are not just seeing the fins on the warhead because of bad quality.

Not Cenk

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

View attachment 71675 what is this? Cenk -2????

Its finless...

Just off the top of my head either something submarine launched or something that's supposed to go to space and favors efficiently over maneuverability in the atmosphere... (MIRV??)

 

[Afif]

Not Cenk

If you say so.

Its finless...

Just off the top of my head either something submarine launched or something that's supposed to go to space and favors efficiently over maneuverability in the atmosphere... (MIRV??)

Doesn't look wide enough for MIRVs. Also, MIRVs has no use for conventional warhead. Poor accuracy.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1851679560439599308

here is what I think (MİT please spare me lol)

Totally not CENK, no fins, we all agree
MRBM? CENK is in that class, why develop something in the same range?
IRBM? Kinda suspicious of that because of the reasons above and ROKETSAN might have been working on multiple ballistic missiles simultenaously (I give up with the spelling tonight) as we have seen TAYFUN and CENK being introduced with only one year gap.
SLIRBM? The form makes me think.

Whatever it is, it is certainly a ballistic missile and not a space launch vehicle as it is launched off a launcher.

We all knows that Turkiye has many secret projects ans weapons so this can be just one of them , If S korea has Hyunmoo 5 and 4 that have massive warhead of 5-9 ton to cause earthqueke and destroy bunkers deep in ground so i believe Turkiye aslo have those kind of ballistic missiles .

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

If you say so.




Doesn't look wide enough for MIRVs. Also, MIRVs has no use for conventional warhead. Poor accuracy.

Pretty sure Aselsan hinted at devoloping MIRV technology several years ago. Also, just because Türkiye lacks nukes doesn't mean it's not working on delivery methods.

We can't judge the size from this photo alone, but it doesn't look drastically different to other nation's MIRV launches. Can't rule it out.

 

[Trakya_forever]

It's like Iranian new Hayber missiles with 2000 km range. Actually it is not so short. The closing shooting and its relatively thick form makes it look short.

 

[KhanOfEurasia]

Vahit Turhan | TDA on Instagram: "ROKETSAN’ın 35. yılı sebebiyle “yarın için yüksel” sloganıyla paylaştığı videoda dikkat çeken test atışı. Not: İlgili video 2023 yılında paylaşılmıştır. @roketsan"

1,301 likes, 10 comments - tdefenceagency on October 31, 2024: "ROKETSAN’ın 35. yılı sebebiyle “yarın için yüksel” sloganıyla paylaştığı videoda dikkat çeken test atışı. Not: İlgili video 2023 yılında paylaşılmıştır. @roketsan".

www.instagram.com

This Video was shred in 2023, this mean last Year the mysterious Missile was tested.

 

[Quasar]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1851679560439599308

here is what I think (MİT please spare me lol)

Totally not CENK, no fins, we all agree
MRBM? CENK is in that class, why develop something in the same range?
IRBM? Kinda suspicious of that because of the reasons above and ROKETSAN might have been working on multiple ballistic missiles simultenaously (I give up with the spelling tonight) as we have seen TAYFUN and CENK being introduced with only one year gap.
SLIRBM? The form makes me think.

Whatever it is, it is certainly a ballistic missile and not a space launch vehicle as it is launched off a launcher.

all i see is 90 degree lauch the exact same with İğneada incident seems that there is a need to cover the least distance in the thickest part of the atmosphere...... guess the range is getting less and less relevant

 

[dBSPL]

all i see is 90 degree lauch the exact same with İğneada incident seems that there is a need to cover the least distance in the thickest part of the atmosphere...... guess the range is getting less and less relevant

I definitely agree, there could be an obvious clue about the missile's apogee zone. Or from which platform it will be launched. I think most of the confusion is because we can't scale it.

Although, at this stage, the comments are just speculative, it is a missile that is kept very well classified, and since the leaking of its image to social media 'for some reason' is indirectly announcing its existence, I think we are all in the safe zone.

 

[Huelague]

@Anmdt , is the shown missile to be used on submarines proposed?

 

[Anmdt]

@Anmdt , is the shown missile to be used on submarines proposed?

I have no idea.

 

[KhanOfEurasia]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1852276214523633781

Is Destan the Name of that Missile it was newly revealed or have Roketsan just changed the Name of Tayfun. Maybe it can be another Variant, like a Carrier Killer.

 

[Sanchez]

This is pretty big for a single signature. 350 million worth of PGM kits. Should be at least ten thousand.

"Agreements regarding the Guidance Kits procurement to meet the needs of the Turkish Armed Forces have been signed between ASELSAN and Presidency of The Republic of Türkiye Secretariat of Defence Industries total valuing USD 316.5 Million and TRY 1.2 Billion.
Deliveries will be made between the years 2025 and 2028."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1853321707722797331

 

[somegoodusername]

This is pretty big for a single signature. 350 million worth of PGM kits. Should be at least ten thousand.

Can someone put that in a context? How much PGMs we were using in a day in our operations in Syria? How much Israel is using in a day? How much it's used in Ukraine?

 

[Sanchez]

Can someone put that in a context? How much PGMs we were using in a day in our operations in Syria? How much Israel is using in a day? How much it's used in Ukraine?

We don't have the data on usage. By and large these are pretty good numbers for day to day usage for few years, but not enough at all for war. Still, a singular order this large is pretty important.

 

[Osman]

At different times, an average Lgk and Hgk's cost was given as 25- 30 k dollars. So annual production of Aselsan should be somewhere between 3000 to 3500 kits

According to open sources in Afrin operation TuRAF used around 2 000 Guided bombs.

So far Israel used 80 000 tonnes of bombs. They mostly used mk 84 and mk 83 to a lesser extent.

They should have used approximately 100 000 mk series bombs and kits. But they had depleted most of their stocks in just 1 month and USA sold these munitions and kits.

Please note that this deal is just done with Aselsan. They are producing LGK, HGK, Gozde, KGK and Tolun. We have other kit producers like Roketsan, Kale and Asfat. And also SAGE as a smaller producer. They also have contracts with SSB for serial productions of Teber, KGK, Laçin, HGK, Gökçe and Gözde.

Turkey's kit production capacity is most probably far better than all countries except US, China and Russia (after almost 3 years of massive war in Ukraine) and its arsenal should be composed of a few tens of thousands kits.

In 2018 almost 2 500 kits had been procured by TSK from different Turkish companies: https://www.aksam.com.tr/ekonomi/mehmetcike-2485-adet-gudum-kiti-yolda/haber-698511 . This was the annual production rate in 2018 when Asfat was not in the serial production work and the others' capacity were lower then today.

Asfat delivered 1000 hgk 82s in almost one year and this deal was just for HGK 82. https://www.savunmasanayist.com/asfat-hgk-82-teslimati/

They also produce other HGKs (83 and 82)

 

[KhanOfEurasia]

In the Time from 8 - 15.11.2024 are Missile Test in Sinop planned.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1853312264490610770