TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[Strong AI]

Minister Kacır:
By taking our long-range missile development capabilities to more advanced levels, we will definitely reach a level of deterrence where no one will even think of harming Turkey.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1854490053923225983

We need nukes for that.

 

[Yasar_TR]

AKINCI TİHA İHA-230 ile 155 kilometreden vurdu | SavunmaSanayiST

BAYKAR Bayraktar AKINCI TİHA, Roketsan İHA-230 Süpersonik Balistik Füze ile 155 kilometre uzaklıktaki hedefleri başarıyla vurdu.

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Akıncı has hit a target 155km away with TRG230. This is more than double the stated range of the missile. On top of it, it is firing it from stand off range whilst at a considerably slow speed.

It is about time now that our F16s are also packed with trg300 missiles. They are cheap and their range will exceed 300km. F16s can fire these from 40000ft and whilst at supersonic speeds. Having flight speeds in excess of 4.2 Mach they will be difficult to intercept. F16s can carry 4 of the trg300.

 

[Saithan]

Isn't accuracy better the closer you are to the target, and if that is the case could it be the reason we're using F16 and not UCAVs ? with the range of 155km I'd say we don't need to use F-16 for bombing missions against terrorists.

 

[2033]

Isn't accuracy better the closer you are to the target, and if that is the case could it be the reason we're using F16 and not UCAVs ? with the range of 155km I'd say we don't need to use F-16 for bombing missions against terrorists.

Mk series bombs are enough for terrorists.

They will probably use Iha-230 for radars and air defense systems

 

[Yasar_TR]

Isn't accuracy better the closer you are to the target, and if that is the case could it be the reason we're using F16 and not UCAVs ? with the range of 155km I'd say we don't need to use F-16 for bombing missions against terrorists.

F16s are used because MK83 and MK84 class bombs can only be delivered by F16 planes. Especially the bunker busting types. To be effective against deep caves dwellers we need these heavier bombs.

No it is not necessarily true that closer you are the more accurate your bombs will be. If you have a good seeker head, not too much weather anomalies, and you are not out of range, irrespective of your distance your hit accuracy should not change. These are, after all, ”Smart” bombs. Remember most of the modern missiles have data link to re target etc. They can easily use midcourse corrections. But the longer a missile stays in the air the more chance there is of it being subjected to jamming. Yet, modern missiles have many gizmos that overcome many jamming techniques used by adversaries.

The Siha-230 bomb used here has a relatively weak explosive charge (42kg of war head weight which may include non explosive components) if compared to a MK84 bomb that weighs 945kg and contains 429kg of high explosive charge, it is dwarfed. Due to its impact speed and the amount of charge it carries, Siha-230 could easily knock out even a tank. But it has no where near the destructive and penetration power of a MK84 bomb.

 

[Strong AI]

F16s are used because MK83 and MK84 class bombs can only be delivered by F16 planes.

AFAIK Akinci UCAV can carry one Mk 84 (NEB).

 

[Ripley]

AFAIK Akinci UCAV can carry one Mk 84 (NEB).

That’s what I remember too.

A decision of choice between F16 (or any jet fighter for that matter) and Akinci must, I think, lie in a limited time frame opportunity where you need to react quick and deliver Mk84 faster, in multitude compared to an Akıncı

 

[Yasar_TR]

Akıncı with a powerful Ukranian engine actually took off with a 870kg NEB and other payloads totalling some 1360kg and reached 30000ft, flying for 13 hours 24 minutes. Total take off weight was 6049kg.

This was to prove a point. As it is, this bomb is not guided. It needs a HGK guidance kit fitted and properly integrated in to the Akinci avionics.
Currently F16s are the only platform that can fire MK83 and MK 84 class bombs in our airforce.
Akinci can carry a SOM missile too. But it has not been configured for it yet. With P&W-PT6 engine it’s endurance should be longer and total payload must be well over 1500kg.

I am actually looking forward to the version with PT6 + long range Gökhan or extended range Gokdogan. That will put the cat among the pigeons. The aesa radar is not a necessity as our Peace Eagles can guide the missiles from a far.
Also at 225kg each, the UAV-230 missiles can be loaded on to Akinci in multiple quantities. (Potentially 6-7) and Akinci can fire them from stand off distances without endangering itself.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

 

[Zoth]

Just a small addition to this, in this sector our private companies started to crazily invest into 155mm or artillery ammunition production in general, this 360K yearly production is only for ASSAN, there are other producers such as MKE and other companies that i can't remember, again in Kaner Kurt's other videos Kozan abi talks about this advancement, we are going to be artillery shell heaven after 2 Koreas.