TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[boredaf]

I doubt that it will be the belly station, more like one of the stations right next to it. The problem is the landing gear and uav-300 is much longer than the bomb in this picture.

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Has Akıncı carried 1 ton munition in its inner pylon before? I can't remember anything heavier than either Çakır or UAV-230. Also, wouldn't that cause abysmal weight distribution that could effect the drone?

 

[Strong AI]

Has Akıncı carried 1 ton munition in its inner pylon before? I can't remember anything heavier than either Çakır or UAV-230. Also, wouldn't that cause abysmal weight distribution that could effect the drone?

Afaik no, but if the wing structure allows it, they should be able to trim it out.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Has Akıncı carried 1 ton munition in its inner pylon before? I can't remember anything heavier than either Çakır or UAV-230. Also, wouldn't that cause abysmal weight distribution that could effect the drone?

If there is a will there is a way.

Please remember that 950kg outer, 400kg inner payload limit was set for an Akinci with 2 x 450HP Ukranian engines propelling it. At the moment it has 2 x 750HP P&W PT6A engines. And we don’t really know it’s true performance levels with those engines. Selcuk Bayraktar had also mentioned that they were looking in to using 1000HP class PT6A engines.

There is a protruding sensor at the back. Its position can be altered.
More importantly, this is a 900kg and 5m long missile. But if those wings can be strengthened to carry both a 221kg PT6-A-60 at 1050HP each, they can be made strong enough to carry 900kg on each inner pylon too. With the 2 x P&W PT6A engines’ 2100HP total power output, Akinci should be able to carry 2 of these missiles.

When you think of the amount of extra stand off strike power these missiles will give to Akinci, it is a logical choice to integrate them to the drone.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

If there is a will there is a way.

Please remember that 950kg outer, 400kg inner payload limit was set for an Akinci with 2 x 450HP Ukranian engines propelling it. At the moment it has 2 x 750HP P&W PT6A engines. And we don’t really know it’s true performance levels with those engines. Selcuk Bayraktar had also mentioned that they were looking in to using 1000HP class PT6A engines.

There is a protruding sensor at the back. Its position can be altered.
More importantly, this is a 900kg and 5m long missile. But if those wings can be strengthened to carry both a 221kg PT6-A-60 at 1050HP each, they can be made strong enough to carry 900kg on each inner pylon too. With the 2 x P&W PT6A engines’ 2100HP total power output, Akinci should be able to carry 2 of these missiles.

When you think of the amount of extra stand off strike power these missiles will give to Akinci, it is a logical choice to integrate them to the drone.

In what scenarios will be the IHA-300 used? A 500km range missile on a drone sounds absolutely great.

 

[boredaf]

In what scenarios will be the IHA-300 used? A 500km range missile on a drone sounds absolutely great.

Think of air defence installations, long range radars, munition/fuel depots or supply centres in general or buildings used by enemy command. Any static target that has a strategic importance to the enemy can be a great target for this. And I bet that range would become even longer if it was released from an F-16.

 

[Yasar_TR]

In what scenarios will be the IHA-300 used? A 500km range missile on a drone sounds absolutely great.

More consequentially one needs to ask where we can use Akinci in an aerial warfare scenario when we meet a like peer adversary.

If our airforce has not established an overall air superiority, then to push these drones in to battlefield would be like sending sheep to slaughter house.

Akinci is a sluggish, slow and big bird that has a large RCS. Its vulnerability was further emphasised in Mali when Algerian AD systems shot one down with ease. Also they are no match against fighter aircrafts.

The best way to utilise Akinci would be to take out enemy assets on the ground in deep enemy territory with stand-off munitions like IHA-300. Be it strategic command posts or AD systems. They could be used to destroy missile sites, armoured columns, ground airforce assets deep in enemy territory whilst not leaving our borders.

One more use that comes to mind that can be a possibility is:
Turkish MOD has introduced an a2a missile made from a trg122 with over 50km range.
Akıncı can fire these with a range of 500km as modified for air to air mode, to hit enemy aircrafts. Missiles’s guidance by third party radars become a key issue here. But a linked system can be used to manage that. (Who needs PL15s to knock down Rafale jets?)

 

[I_Love_F16]

I doubt that it will be the belly station, more like one of the stations right next to it. The problem is the landing gear and uav-300 is much longer than the bomb in this picture.

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You’re right.