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🚀 Roketsan General Manager Murat İkinci:

"Actually, we launched four new products of ours. Of course, among these products, the munitions for our sihas stand out prominently. For instance, when you look at our new mini cruise missile in this regard, it will hopefully add even more power to the strength of our sihas with a range of 250 kilometers.

Of course, one of the products we announced here is also our long-range anti-tank missile. This will be the longest-range among our anti-tank missiles. Especially at 55 kilometers, when launched from the air, it's a product that truly makes a difference at a 55-kilometer range. And again, our Cirit missile, as a countermeasure against scalpels and UAVs, is one of the four new products we've announced this time."

Let's hope someone takes proper photos of the information cards or presentations tomorrow.
 

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As you know, diplomacy often relies on symbolism and presentations to convey a message.
Going by the ICBM AI slop video, our thinking is that either give us the F110s or we nuke US? Really? What kind of retarded idiot thought about doing that. At least commenters were quick enough and deleted it, but it's already out there!
 

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Let's hope someone takes proper photos of the information cards or presentations tomorrow.


got you covered, coincidentally
 
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got you covered, coincidentally
You're a star mate, so, 125 kg with 250 km range, that is brilliant. Was there any information about the size of its warhead?
 

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Unfortunately, YILDIRIMHAN is a complete sham. I don’t believe a single word of it. The whole world is laughing at us; the Ministry of National Defense’s R&D department has brought shame upon us.
 

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Unfortunately, YILDIRIMHAN is a complete sham. I don’t believe a single word of it. The whole world is laughing at us; the Ministry of National Defense’s R&D department has brought shame upon us.
Whatever the truth is, it's been a total PR disaster. The video, the statement by the DM, the information sheet, none of it makes sense.
 

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Turkey, Ukraine seeking broader space cooperation Dec 15, 2020​


Turkey and its littoral Black Sea neighbor Ukraine have signed an agreement to broaden their cooperation in space and satellite technologies.

SSB President and Turkey’s top procurement official Ismail Demir and Turkish Industry and Technology Minister Mustafa Varank met with Ukrainian Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal on Nov. 30 to discuss space and defense cooperation between the two countries.

Serdar Huseyin Yildirim, head of the Turkish Space Agency, announced the agreement Dec. 4, which involves cooperation on launching technologies, satellite production, marketing and production of subsystems, and a program designed to manufacture a common rocket launcher.

The Turkish Space Agency is responsible for the civilian applications of Turkish-Ukrainian space efforts, while Turkey’s Presidency of Defence Industries, or SSB, is administering the military aspect of programs.


What if Türkiye acquired Russian SATAN ICBM technology from Ukraine?
 

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It cannot be ruled out, but it is very, very unlikely that Ukraine, with its current engineers, still possesses intercontinental ballistic missile technology from the USSR, such as the “Satan I,” and if it does… For several years now, the U.S. and Europe have been supporting Ukraine with money, weapons, and intelligence, and this support is far more extensive than what Turkey provides to Ukraine—we’re talking about literally several billion U.S. dollars, plus weapons, ammunition, and intelligence.

Do you really believe that the US/Israel and Europe would allow such a critical technology transfer as that of intercontinental ballistic missiles from the Soviet era to Turkey?

Let’s assume that Yildirimhan is real and that things have progressed to the point where a test is possible—then there are only two possibilities: Either there has been a program in place for several years under the strictest secrecy, or a technology transfer via Pakistan/China (DF-5A/Satan I) has been taking place for several years now.

The final possibility is that this is a Hoax/Fake intended for show and to spread disinformation abroad.
 

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I think I just got a spoiler about Saha from Aselsan's website. Apparently, Aselsan made an electronic warfare variant of Tolun.

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Nitrogen tetroxide provides more energy per unit mass compared to solid fuel, but it seems like a trade-off: giving up the advantage of rapid reaction, as in military ballistic missiles, in exchange for higher efficiency and control. Pre-launch refueling of liquid-fueled missiles (if the missile is not in a silo) must be an extremely delicate and time-consuming operation. IMHO, the progress made in SLV studies should have opened the window for achieving strategic ranges with SRMs. My amateur opinion is that the ability of liquid engines to be switched on and off, or to adjust the thrust, could also be an advantage for placing the warhead into orbit or performing complex maneuvers in the terminal phase. I think it would be consistent to say that Türkiye's engine control and high-energy capabilities gained in space projects are directly adapted to the ICBM class. Perhaps these studies were being pursued with a dual-use purpose from the beginning (like R-7, Atlas and many others) , who knows?

I also agree with the general comments regarding the warhead. What should be required when reaching this class is, as any defense enthusiast knows, 'obvious'. On the other hand, not only the payload carried by the warhead but also the technology the warhead itself possesses is important, MiRV for example. I don't know, it might be pointless to consider a missile with a ballistic trajectory of +3000/4000km without this technology.
 

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You're a star mate, so, 125 kg with 250 km range, that is brilliant. Was there any information about the size of its warhead?
30 kg, very nice very lovely size

Also, more news on CİRİT C-UAS and Mini Cruise missile, as well as some other things are coming up. After I take a rest since today has taken its toll too.
 

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Nilüfer Kuzulu, the leader of the Yıldırımhan R&D team, announced that they have been working on hypersonic missiles for 10 years. It was stated that the warhead would be 10 times more intense than that of the Gazap bomb.
Saying we've been working on hypersonic missiles for 10 years means we decided to develop ICBMs after the July 15 coup attempt.
 

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30 kg, very nice very lovely size

Also, more news on CİRİT C-UAS and Mini Cruise missile, as well as some other things are coming up. After I take a rest since today has taken its toll too.
That's more than I expected, it is very nice. If 2 or 3 of them can be carried on a rack, that is whole lot of "fuck you" in stand off range. I love it.
 

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starting with further details on CİRİT C-UAS, it is actually well-optimised with new flight control algorithms and RF proximtiy fuse (Been expecting laser but hey, who cares)
 

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