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4 Coastal oiler bid is awarded to Desan and Ozata shipyard joint bidding.

The project was earlier published by a RfP earlier in 2021.
 

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@Anmdt I can’t see if it has any CIWS. Would they have any like Gökdeniz or Smash ?
It is coastal oiler, not meant to be in combat zone but close to the shore or ports to replenish the fuel.

It doesn't even have Stabilized turret but maybe 1 or 2 MG mount points.

Its duties are to replenish warships as soon as possible by meeting them outside of the port, or parking in somewhere in midway for the FACs so that they don't have to leave their mission area by visiting the homeport. Replenishing food/fuel/water etc.
 
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@Anmdt I can’t see if it has any CIWS. Would they have any like Gökdeniz or Smash ?
It is an important point. These ships would be ideal targets for enemy long range anti ship missiles. It is a well known fact to disable and destroy logistical lines of your enemy. So they will be among the first targets to be aimed at .
They would need coastal AD cover as well as limited point defence capability. I am sure the way they will be deployed will also play a role in the amount of self defence it should have.
 

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It is an important point. These ships would be ideal targets for enemy long range anti ship missiles. It is a well known fact to disable and destroy logistical lines of your enemy. So they will be among the first targets to be aimed at .
They would need coastal AD cover as well as limited point defence capability. I am sure the way they will be deployed will also play a role in the amount of self defence it should have.
These are technically fuel-water 'boats', coasters.

There might be a reason why these are in low numbers. Possibly in next 5 years these concepts will transform into unmanned coastal replenishment vessels. Unmanned operations fit perfectly to mission profile of these.

No human, no need for a supper structure, much lower RCS and visual profile. They will only need to resolve some matters with machinery, crane and equipment but i am sure if an R&D budget is allocated it is doable.

Also shipborne USVs may be inherited by LSTs before than the DIMDEG. Hoping to see something 2022.
 

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First ship of I-Class , TCG-Istanbul‘s equipment fitting and final building work were being done even in the last hours of 2022.
(re: tweet from MaviVatan.net@mavivatannet)
 

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First ship of I-Class , TCG-Istanbul‘s equipment fitting and final building work were being done even in the last hours of 2022.
(re: tweet from MaviVatan.net@mavivatannet)
Good answer to people who keeps telling the construction of I-Class is not progressing.
Just because they can't see rudder, shaft, propeller and brackets are installed when they are passing by in a train from outside, or peeking from afar or from satellite images and seeing there is no work on the outer shell, they think there is no progress inside of the hull.
 

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Good answer to people who keeps telling the construction of I-Class is not progressing.
Just because they can't see rudder, shaft, propeller and brackets are installed when they are passing by in a train from outside, or peeking from afar or from satellite images and seeing there is no work on the outer shell, they think there is no progress inside of the hull.
Is this the first i class or second?
 
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Good answer to people who keeps telling the construction of I-Class is not progressing.
Just because they can't see rudder, shaft, propeller and brackets are installed when they are passing by in a train from outside, or peeking from afar or from satellite images and seeing there is no work on the outer shell, they think there is no progress inside of the hull.
Is there a satellite image from top? I haven't seen the I class from top. It would be great if somebody share with us.
 

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I'm new to this forum and pardon for my lack of knowledge, will I class have TAS? Because it seems doesn't have any door or windows on it's stern
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First ship of I-Class , TCG-Istanbul‘s equipment fitting and final building work were being done even in the last hours of 2022.
(re: tweet from MaviVatan.net@mavivatannet)
 

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I'm new to this forum and pardon for my lack of knowledge, will I class have TAS? Because it seems doesn't have any door or windows on it's stern
Firstly, welcome to the forum?
Secondly what is TAS?
If it is Target Aquisition System, what has it got with doors and windows?
If it is Torpedoes Anti Submarine , again doors and windows?
If it is Towed Array Sonar , why doors and windows?
 

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We are too late with naval warships and we badly need them agaist Israel egypt grecce , I hope First I class became ready for duty in late 2022 or fist 2023
While 3 I class get build in same time from April 2022 and became ready for duty in 2024
 

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Towed array sonar. I don't know what is the correct term in English for the holes in the stern of the ship to place the TAS like this.
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I'm new to this forum and pardon for my lack of knowledge, will I class have TAS? Because it seems doesn't have any door or windows on it's stern
It has a stern door and ramp for deploying and recovering SOF - RHIB, the same door can also launch Hizir TCMS's receiver part, which is actually the receiver end of a towed array sonar.

I-Class will have the same door and ramp.

The hull is built intact, and the door is installed later by cutting out the temporary plating.

Another door can be added for VDS to deploy it separately. So both Ada class and I-Class can be upgraded with a VDS. Possibly I-Class has already have the VDS - Hizir LFAS in the most recent design but still i am unsure about.
 

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Keypoints for the ULAQ;
-Compact version of Yakamoz hull mounted sonar is on way ASW variant of Ulaq
-Fiber-optik acoustic sensor with slim-thin line cord tech is in prototype stage, aiming to be placed on USVs
-USVs can be optionally equipped with altrlernative sonars (possibly referring to compact VDS, dipping sonar, sonobuoy)
-Will be using domestic components as much as possible.
-A new kind of acoustic vector sensor likely based on fiber optic tech.
-USV control station can be mounted on another vehicle, ADVENT integration continuing and planned to be achieved.
 

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