TR Navy Naval Programs

[BalkanTurk90]

Gogdeniz looks big but aslo only 1 is not enough so i hope Turkish Phalax will aslo mouted on this frigate .
1 Turk Phalax
1 Gogdeniz
16 Anti-ship/ land Cruise missile
16/32 SAMs
2x Mediun torpedos
For 3000 ton 114 meter frigate looks good

 

[Cabatli_TR]

 

[TheInsider]

According to İbrahim Sünnetçi MAN engines will be used for the last 3 ships. This engine will probably be used for the last 3 frigates.

MAN 175D

With its advanced common rail fuel injection system, the MAN 175D engine combines maximum fuel efficiency with the lowest possible emissions, making it a perfect investment for the future. With high-level emissions standards being considered from the outset, the MAN 175D is one of the most...

www.man-es.com

 

[Afif]

Are these VLS more square than mark 41?

 

[UkroTurk]

1 Turk Phalax

We already discussed about Phalanx. Phalanx and something less than 35mm cal wouldn't be effective. İ would prefer two-sided 2xgöker35mm.

Are these VLS more square than mark 41?

No idea but neither Hisar-N not Siper could be quadpacked in it.

CAMM/SeaCeptor shaped more thinner missiles could be fit as quadpacked.

MIDLAS looks like the french Silver VLS.

 

[Oublious]

We already discussed about Phalanx. Phalanx and something less than 35mm cal wouldn't be effective. İ would prefer two-sided 2xgöker35mm.


No idea but neither Hisar-N not Siper could be quadpacked in it.

CAMM/SeaCeptor shaped more thinner missiles could be fit as quadpacked.

MIDLAS looks like the french Silver VLS.
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This is hisar, with booster it is SIPER. Now look to MIDLAS, quad packed is no problem..

 

[UkroTurk]

This is hisar, with booster it is SIPER. Now look to MIDLAS, quad packed is no problem..

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No idea. Mk41's canister dimension is 25'x25'. İf we assume MIDLAS canister is as same as Mk41, you had better calculate. I am not good at geometry.

 

[Bogeyman]

 

[Cabatli_TR]

TCG Istanbul

 

[TheInsider]

25" = 63.5cm. 63.5/2= 31.75cm The Hisar-N and Siper-1 missiles shouldn't have more than ~300mm diameter when the wings are folded. This looks possible to me.

 

[Yasar_TR]

I really hope that the Hisar-RF or even Siper can be quad packed in to our MIDLAS. But one has to take in to consideration the exhaust return chutes and their space requirements? You don’t just fit the bare missiles in to those canisters. All those gasses and flames have to be exhausted from the sides of the missile containers. They need certain amount of space.
ESSM missiles are 25.4cm in diameter. And they just about manage to be fitted in to MK41 VLS in quad packed format.
If our MIDLAS is same as MK41 in size, then any missile with a diameter larger than 25.4cm may be beyond quad packability.
May be @Anmdt could shed some light in to this conundrum?

EDIT:

this is a representation of a MK41 VLS

Mk.41 Vertical Launching System VLS Navy DDG CG FFG

mk.41 vertical launching system vls navy destroyer cruiser frigate missile

www.seaforces.org

 

[UkroTurk]

 

[Tornadoss]

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Well, there is gokdeniz already behind, I guess just one of these can be enough

 

[uçuyorum]

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Those are much bigger than that

 

[UkroTurk]

Ok it is the last one. No more photos.


-16 cell VLS
-4x14: 56 SHORAD missiles
- 4 X 35mm CIWS would be effective for all you?

 

[godel44]

I would rather put Roketsan's Levent and Nazar on the ship. I was expecting to see Nazar at some capacity by now.

 

[Brave Janissary]

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Ok it is the last one. No more photos.


-16 cell VLS
-4x14: 56 SHORAD missiles
- 4 X 35mm CIWS would be effective for all you?

İskele(port) and sancak(starboard) baş-kıç(fore-aft) omuzluks (shoulders) must be clear on ships.

 

[Baryshx]

This is hisar, with booster it is SIPER. Now look to MIDLAS, quad packed is no problem..

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Quad-pack G40 sounds better. Of course, if Hisars are suitable for quad-pack, they'll do.

 

[Kaan Azman]

G40 is appearently dead, my bets are on finalized HİSAR-D w folding wings thus QP capability

 

[UkroTurk]

İskele(port) and sancak(starboard) baş-kıç(fore-aft) omuzluks (shoulders) must be clear on ships.

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Then there is no space at all.
@Anmdt Dear what would you say?