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Talk is cheap.

"One of the most important tests for the Organization of Turkic States as a regional power was to develop a common strategy in foreign policy. Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, and now Uzbekistan do not want to give up the relationships they have developed with Israel."

Good, maybe Turkey's government can get their head out of their ass seeing that other Turkic nations aren't keen to commit the same diplomatic suicide that Erdogan is.
 

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You're not doing a good job of it if the Islamists are filling the nation with the detritus of the ME that hate Turks, letting PKK rat sympathisers walk out in open protest with apo flags and pictures of liquidated terrorists on your supposed victory day, meanwhile PKK lawyers are graduating within your own borders and taking their oaths in Kurdish rather than Turkish.

To tell a brother that he should worry only about himself and not his family is disgraceful.
 

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You're not doing a good job of it if the Islamists are filling the nation with the detritus of the ME that hate Turks, letting PKK rat sympathisers walk out in open protest with apo flags and pictures of liquidated terrorists on your supposed victory day, meanwhile PKK lawyers are graduating within your own borders and taking their oaths in Kurdish rather than Turkish.

To tell a brother that he should worry only about himself and not his family is disgraceful.
If you present hostility towards Israel as nonsense while the Israelis are preparing for a land grab by taking a large amount of land from Northern Cyprus, then there is a problem here.

Meanwhile, I would like to remind everyone that Northern Cyprus is still not recognized as a state by the "brother" countries.

If everyone pursues their own interests instead of thinking about the interests of their brothers, then we cannot talk about the "unity of the Turkish World" there.
 

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If you present hostility towards Israel as nonsense while the Israelis are preparing for a land grab by taking a large amount of land from Northern Cyprus, then there is a problem here.

Meanwhile, I would like to remind everyone that Northern Cyprus is still not recognized as a state by the "brother" countries.

If everyone pursues their own interests instead of thinking about the interests of their brothers, then we cannot talk about the "unity of the Turkish World" there.
Being a brother means being willing to pay the price when necessary.

We have shown in the past that we are ready to pay the price for our brothers. However, we do not see the same response from them (as it is known, the recognition of Cyprus will worsen their relations with the US and the EU).

Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan do not want to have a falling out with France.

Azerbaijan, on the other hand, is obsessed with "I am an independent country".

Good. Let's see what these "brother" countries will do when Turkey has to face Israel one day.
 

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Good. Let's see what these "brother" countries will do when Turkey has to face Israel one day.
lol Israel will fight you to the last American and pkk rats, I wouldn't worry things will reach this far because the anglos know the limits of their cowboy politics and THEY also have no desire to reach this point despite the warmongering.
If things do reach this point then everyone must know that anglos are no longer running the show in D.C but a bunch of kahanist evangelical zealots with an apocalypse boner.

Being a brother means being willing to pay the price when necessary.
Putin is having similar problems with his slavic "brothers" If it makes you feel better.
These things aren't simple as you imagine, realpolitik is hard to deal with and you must be smart to turn things to your liking.
 
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Good, maybe Turkey's government can get their head out of their ass seeing that other Turkic nations aren't keen to commit the same diplomatic suicide that Erdogan is.
You do realise that Israel has dreams of annexing part of Turkey right?
Israel's policy of supreme Israel in the region is already threatened by Turkey's growing military industry.

The Israeli media was in an uproar recently over potential rumors of Turkey selling its KAAN to Egypt in the future with them proclaiming that Turkey or any other country should never be allowed to have such a weapons program unless the Jews has a say/control over it and that they should pressure the US to sanction and threaten Turkey in order to stop its weqpons program

Erdogan himself said last month: "the moment Israel finished Palestine, Lebanon, and Syria; we will be next" and Turkey will never win against Israel since not only they control most of the world's finance and media and may cripple Turkey economically but also they control the whole US economy and its army

For example, In order to protect Israel from Iranian retaliation, Israel forced the US to move 1/3 of its entire navy to the Middle East which never happened before except during the Iraq invasion. Normally, such a magnanimous movement, according to the US constitution, must pass through the US congress first but guess what? It didnt even go to the congress it but rather went through it within a fortnight

Honestly, as more time passes, I slowly realise that the Turkic organisation is a failed idea with many Turkic nations following their own agenda and failing to even want to compromise or sacrifice to save other turkic nations..... the only nation that is serious about the issue is Turkey and no one else.... I always ask myself why on earth does no Turkic nation recognise the TRNC, i wonder?

Erdogan isnt commiting political suicide by any means. However, he knows and understands that if Israel were to be allowed to run rampant, Turkey sooner or later will be destroyed since no one will stand with Turkey when the Jews come knocking up on the door one day and if the Turks dont get their heads out of their asses rn, they are in for a rude awakening in the future since Imamoglu will likely, according to the current status quo, rule Turkey in the future and we all know his stance on the matter and this means that the ppl must be aware in order to exert pressure on him to stay straight whenever he leans


No offense meant to the Turks but I believe that this is the truth that somehow most of the Turkish nation doesnt wanna admit to it
 
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You do realise that Israel has dreams of annexing part of Turkey right?
Israel's policy of supreme Israel in the region is already threatened by Turkey's growing military industry.

The Israeli media was in an uproar recently over potential rumors of Turkey selling its KAAN to Egypt in the future with them proclaiming that Turkey or any other country should never be allowed to have such a weapons program unless the Jews has a say/control over it and that they should pressure the US to sanction and threaten Turkey in order to stop its weqpons program

Erdogan himself said last month: "the moment Israel finished Palestine, Lebanon, and Syria; we will be next" and Turkey will never win against Israel since not only they control most of the world's finance and media and may cripple Turkey economically but also they control the whole US economy and its army

For example, In order to protect Israel from Iranian retaliation, Israel forced the US to move 1/3 of its entire navy to the Middle East which never happened before except during the Iraq invasion. Normally, such a magnanimous movement, according to the US constitution, must pass through the US congress first but guess what? It didnt even go to the congress it but rather went through it within a fortnight

Honestly, as more time passes, I slowly realise that the Turkic organisation is a failed idea with many Turkic nations following their own agenda and failing to even want to compromise or sacrifice to save other turkic nations..... the only nation that is serious about the issue is Turkey and no one else.... I always ask myself why on earth does no Turkic nation recognise the TRNC, i wonder?

Erdogan isnt commiting political suicide by any means. However, he knows and understands that if Israel were to be allowed to run rampant, Turkey sooner or later will be destroyed since no one will stand with Turkey when the Jews come knocking up on the door one day and if the Turks dont get their heads out of their asses rn, they are in for a rude awakening in the future since Imamoglu will rule Turkey in the future and we all know his stance on the matter and this means that the ppl must be aware in order to exert pressure on him to stay straight whenever he leans


No offense meant to the Turks but I believe that this is the truth that somehow most of the Turkish nation doesnt wanna admit to it
100% correct. Especially the parts about Imamoglu.

He's gonna castrate your kids and pimp your wife to highest bidder.
 

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Leave Türkiye to us! Worry about your own country!
A good brother does not follow his sibling in his mistakes but smacks him in the face and reminds said sibling not to be an idiot.

If Turks want to tolerate Erdogan's Islamist lunacy that ended up screwing over Turkey's foreign policy for years to come then I can't stop you. I can tell you what I think of it and refuse to follow you into that pit.
 

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A good brother does not follow his sibling in his mistakes but smacks him in the face and reminds said sibling not to be an idiot.

If Turks want to tolerate Erdogan's Islamist lunacy that ended up screwing over Turkey's foreign policy for years to come then I can't stop you. I can tell you what I think of it and refuse to follow you into that pit.
So, when Israel uses you like tissue paper and then throws you away, there is no need to be angry.
 

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All of our retarded neighbours have land claims against us.

Honestly if Israel wants a piece of Turkish soil I rest assure you that Turks wont even give them. 1 inch of land.

Turks conquered from Siberia and reached the Gates of Vienna. The Jews and Zionists know who they are dealing with. These cowards know they cant face a warrior race head on. Hence why they allow others to do their fighting or bring in entire countries by the way.

We know in WW1 how they supported us backed us while at the same time spying for the Allies and sending troops aka Zion Mule Corps to fight against the Ottoman army.

Ottomans did such a stupid mistake in sending aid or even helping them. I do hope the Palestinians win this war give the Jews the Algerian treatment.
Bro, no one is denying that the Turks will resist against any Jewish/Zionist claims to grab Turkish lands; however, rejecting the claims and protecting it are 2 different matters

When Israel fights against Turkey, it wont be the jews fighting on the frontlines but rather it will be hundreds of thousands of Americans, European, and mentally-invaded Arabs while the jews will stay with their bikinis on some beach somewhere in the bloody world

My main idea here is to convey to those jewish-lovers wannabies that aiding the jews for momentary gains is the worst thing that can happen. When Erdogan supports Palestine and angers Israel/USA, he isnt doing this just for votes but because he is aware that the moment the jews finishes Palestine, they will turn to Lebanon, Syria and then Turkey and these words came from Erdogan himself and even before him Saddam of Iraq and Ghaddafi of Libya said the same things

Jews control the media, finance, and the military of 60-70% of the strongest and most advanced nations on earth..... when the time comes, can Turkey defend itself? And will the Turkic alliance who are too afraid to recognise TRNC to not piss of the French and the Americans stand with Turkey against the whole world?

Jews are one of the primary enemies of Turkey..... and they will always be. Any sane leader and population should realise that already..... hell man, their rabbis where urging Natenyahu to drop nuclear weapons on Turkey 2 weeks ago FFS
 

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Bro, no one is denying that the Turks will resist against any Jewish/Zionist claims to grab Turkish lands; however, rejecting the claims and protecting it are 2 different matters

When Israel fights against Turkey, it wont be the jews fighting on the frontlines but rather it will be hundreds of thousands of Americans, European, and mentally-invaded Arabs while the jews will stay with their bikinis on some beach somewhere in the bloody world

My main idea here is to convey to those jewish-lovers wannabies that aiding the jews for momentary gains is the worst thing that can happen. When Erdogan supports Palestine and angers Israel/USA, he isnt doing this just for votes but because he is aware that the moment the jews finishes Palestine, they will turn to Lebanon, Syria and then Turkey and these words came from Erdogan himself and even before him Saddam of Iraq and Ghaddafi of Libya said the same things

Jews control the media, finance, and the military of 60-70% of the strongest and most advanced nations on earth..... when the time comes, can Turkey defend itself? And will the Turkic alliance who are too afraid to recognise TRNC to not piss of the French and the Americans stand with Turkey against the whole world?

Jews are one of the primary enemies of Turkey..... and they will always be. Any sane leader and population should realise that already..... hell man, their rabbis where urging Natenyahu to drop nuclear weapons on Turkey 2 weeks ago FFS

Turkiye needs nuclear weapons. I agree we can never rely on anybody.

Nuclear weapons are the best deterent.
 

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A good brother does not follow his sibling in his mistakes but smacks him in the face and reminds said sibling not to be an idiot.

If Turks want to tolerate Erdogan's Islamist lunacy that ended up screwing over Turkey's foreign policy for years to come then I can't stop you. I can tell you what I think of it and refuse to follow you into that pit.
You don't seem like a good one though, more like an already indoctrinated American.

Stay in your lane, brother!
 

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So, when Israel uses you like tissue paper and then throws you away, there is no need to be angry.
Not being stupid enough to throw away decent relations over a bunch of Arabs in Palestine who actively hate you and supported your enemies isn't the same as being used.
 

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I see too many Turks here who seem to forget how RTE and AKP policies turned Türkiye into a refugee camp for how many million refugees now ?

turned Türkiyes internal politics to them against us mentality. Turned the citizens into idiots.

Their own elected politicians calling people dumb on tv.

Turned Türkiye into a police state where tyere is no longer respect for law.

stop being sidetracked and get emotional over every little thing. We got issues to fix internally. RTE is trying to rile things up and have islamist join the bandwagon.

whether we like it or not too many in Türkiye is still easily moved by emotions. So unless the economy is so fucked that people stop watching news because their economy is hurting. There will be attempts to drag us into a war and RTE will rey to extens his stay in power.
 

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Being a brother means being willing to pay the price when necessary.

We have shown in the past that we are ready to pay the price for our brothers. However, we do not see the same response from them (as it is known, the recognition of Cyprus will worsen their relations with the US and the EU).

Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan do not want to have a falling out with France.

Azerbaijan, on the other hand, is obsessed with "I am an independent country".

Good. Let's see what these "brother" countries will do when Turkey has to face Israel one day.
let me translate this part from islamst turkish to normal turkish. i want to start a war with israel by supporting a terrorist group called hamas because i am islamist arapperest and anti semite racist who dont give 2 fart about any turkic suffering from Cyprus to Kirkuk to karabağ to Crimea to east Turkistan and all of your sufferings are supported by Palestinians and i have the right to drag you down with me and you folks should support my islamist masturbations because im a brother ??

really is it our brother who wants to be enemy with Israel or is it arapprest like you ?? whom are supported by arabs countries who wants to use turkey as cannon fodder ??
 

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Not being stupid enough to throw away decent relations over a bunch of Arabs in Palestine who actively hate you and supported your enemies isn't the same as being used.

What these RTE lovers don’t understand is that Israel doesn’t need to go to war with Turkiye to grab some land. Erdogan is already doing the work for a few years now. With Turkiye hosting most of the world refugees, you just need one spark, and you end up with PKK 2.0 inside your borders. But hey, it’s all good. As long as he build roads, bridges, makes you believe that you are a ‘’superpower’’, offer you some tea and a bag of rice. Everything is fine.
 

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I see too many Turks here who seem to forget how RTE and AKP policies turned Türkiye into a refugee camp for how many million refugees now ?

turned Türkiyes internal politics to them against us mentality. Turned the citizens into idiots.

Their own elected politicians calling people dumb on tv.

Turned Türkiye into a police state where tyere is no longer respect for law.

stop being sidetracked and get emotional over every little thing. We got issues to fix internally. RTE is trying to rile things up and have islamist join the bandwagon.

whether we like it or not too many in Türkiye is still easily moved by emotions. So unless the economy is so fucked that people stop watching news because their economy is hurting. There will be attempts to drag us into a war and RTE will rey to extens his stay in power.
These 2 are different points. No one is denying that the refugees are causing problems in Turkey but.....

Going anti-Israel doesnt mean that you support the refugee policy
Just because Erdogan made the mistake of accepting refugees doesnt mean that he should make the mistake to accept Israeli zionist

This isnt emotions but cruel, hard, facts. Any nation who doesnt see the bloodshed in Palestine and the statements of prominent jewish leaders and rabbis about the Greater Israel (which includes parts of Turkey) and even those who support Nuking Turkey.

You people believe that it is some sort of illusion but with the Jews having a radical book called the Talmud and controlling the Media, economy, finance, and military of nearl6 the top economies...... then you know that this isnt a dream no more

I dont wanna repeat my words over and over but those who believe that supporting Israel will aid Turkey in counter-acting refugees or greater economic boons is a fool. If you wanna improve then you wanna invest and develop yourself since no other nation will help you in doing so.... period!

And just because Erdo made the refugee policy mistake doesnt mean that each and every of his policies are wrong. His defense industry policies are on the right path, his neo-Ottoman agenda (while is pissing off others) made Turkey the mist likeable region in Africa with Turkey recently obtaining the rights to mine for iron ore and gold within nations that were previously colonised by the West and obtaining sea drilling rights in Somalia

Erdo made mistakes but he did make good policies as well; meanwhile, I see no one talking about the catastrophic opposition who are ranting about immproving the economy without any plan whatsoever and sucking the Western d**k while promising to build a ministry to protect LGBTQ rights

If Erdo made the people stupid, then you will enjoy how the Turks will look post 2028
 

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Not being stupid enough to throw away decent relations over a bunch of Arabs in Palestine who actively hate you and supported your enemies isn't the same as being used.
Don't talk rubbish, Palestinians are in the similar position that you were while Armenians were in Karabakh.
That time the same Erdogan helped you.
It not matter of someone liking or not liking someone in one particular place but when someone like you or this so called Asena Great, and God knows who he is, are trying to find any sort of sympathy for your " ideas" even if it means to justify 120k likes on telegram channel for the burning children alive then it is not for patriotic reasons.
If it was , then, you can say it without sympathising with such things.
Actually, you have nothing to say or think of note. It is just pathological hate for Islam.
I don't know, your real name but whatever it maybe, it is Tommy Robinson.
Just like any other pseudo right wing European lumpen proletariat.
You ain't even a right wing nor Patriots, just Zionists.
You are just like Evangelical Christians, more Jews insult them , more they like them.
This joker Asena ,
Interestingly enough, you have nothing to say how Jews killed millions of your fellow Turkics in Soviet Union yet after 3 day of start of the war, you had all " documentation " ready to use against Palestinians?
I am not particularly fan of Arabs, but anyone who is not a Jew and support " Amalek killers" is kinda pedo.
Pedo? Morality of killings the kids is openly admitted, even there's a guy here who does that.
So you are like the company that you keep . No mystery there
 

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So, when Israel uses you like tissue paper and then throws you away, there is no need to be angry.

How and when did Israel “use us like tissue paper”? Any concrete examples?


Being a brother means being willing to pay the price when necessary.

We have shown in the past that we are ready to pay the price for our brothers. However, we do not see the same response from them (as it is known, the recognition of Cyprus will worsen their relations with the US and the EU).

Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan do not want to have a falling out with France.

Azerbaijan, on the other hand, is obsessed with "I am an independent country".

Good. Let's see what these "brother" countries will do when Turkey has to face Israel one day.

What do you mean? Are you saying that Azerbaijan should follow Turkey’s Israel policy? The “conflict” between Turkey and Israel is mostly artificial, let’s be honest with ourselves. And you know who is mostly responsible for it. Long before 2023.

Can you tell me the rationale of arguing that Azerbaijan or Kazakhstan shall severe ties with Israel when even Arab countries, who are geographically next door, signed “Abrahamic accords”? Don’t you think also that it’s those same Arab countries that can truly make a difference? What the hell is Egypt doing, please tell me? What is Saudi doing?

Lastly, let’s make one thing clear, what Israel is doing is indeed at least ethnic cleansing. But your anger or dissapointment or whatever is misplaced. You should start with the Arab world itself.
 
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