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Multiple photos/videos exist of downed YIHA/Asusguard models (including a pretty famous one of locals in Pakistan beating up the wreckage of a YIHA, thinking it's an Indian drone) so saying that not a single one was shot down is objectively not true.

The presentation lists how many locations were targeted, but doesn't say anything about how successful those strikes were. So "successfully struck military targets" is a leap of an assumption. IIRC, that presentation also had a slide which said something like ~90% of airborne attacks with drones/long range vectors were thwarted/intercepted.

What we do know is that Indian AD must have recorded airborne signatures matching TB2/Akinci - which is how they know they were 'used'. But what that use entailed, we do not know. Were they being used in a combat role, or were they doing ISR/BDA/comms relay while the kamikaze drones like YIHA went in?

That we do not know.
 

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Multiple photos/videos exist of downed YIHA/Asusguard models (including a pretty famous one of locals in Pakistan beating up the wreckage of a YIHA, thinking it's an Indian drone) so saying that not a single one was shot down is objectively not true.

The presentation lists how many locations were targeted, but doesn't say anything about how successful those strikes were. So "successfully struck military targets" is a leap of an assumption. IIRC, that presentation also had a slide which said something like ~90% of airborne attacks with drones/long range vectors were thwarted/intercepted.

What we do know is that Indian AD must have recorded airborne signatures matching TB2/Akinci - which is how they know they were 'used'. But what that use entailed, we do not know. Were they being used in a combat role, or were they doing ISR/BDA/comms relay while the kamikaze drones like YIHA went in?

That we do not know.

The kamikaze drone reached its target and exploded. So was it shot down, or promoted?

 
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The kamikaze drone reached its target and exploded. So was it shot down, or promoted?
But no pic of any damage exist so "trust me bro" .meanwhile we have pics of showdown yiha drones all over the place .Trying to get credit when your are not even a power with any influence in the region lol.
 

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Can you please share the real source (DGMO statement) rather than a twitter Message which is no more than hearsay.
I can’t find any source to support your post. On the contrary there are messages from Indian Chief of Staff and others that says the opposite.


Here is a briefing by a top DGMO official three days ago

 
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‘Deep-penetration strike missions’: Medal citations detail Op Sindoor intricacies​


One of the fighter pilots decorated with Vir Chakra for his heroism during Operation Sindoor, the four-day military confrontation with Pakistan in May, flew multiple deep-penetration strike missions to take out designated targets with surgical precision. The pilot, Group Captain Ranjeet Singh Sidhu, also carried out air defence missions to support other fighter pilots flying similar strike missions.


As the Commanding Officer, Sidhu exhibited exceptional acts of gallantry on multiple occasions, displayed resolute leadership and unwavering dedication to duty in a complex and high-stakes combat environment with disregard to personal safety,” reads an excerpt from his citation published in the Gazette of India dated October 4 but being reported for the first time.

Sidhu was commanding a Rafale squadron.

He was among the 15 Indian soldiers and security personnel who were awarded the Vir Chakra, India’s third-highest wartime honour, by President Droupadi Murmu on the eve of the 79th Independence Day for playing a pivotal role in hitting terror and military targets in Pakistan and Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK) during the May 7-10 clash. To be sure, the citations were not released when the awards were announced.


Operation Sindoor marked New Delhi’s direct military response to the April 22 Pahalgam terror attack in which 26 people were killed. India launched the operation in the early hours of May 7 and struck terror and military installations in Pakistan and PoK.

Another fighter pilot, Group Captain Manish Arora, flew as mission leader of an unescorted strike package to neutralise predetermined targets that were heavily fortified by advanced weapon systems of Pakistani forces.

His “audacious and aggressive manoeuvring” has been credited for plunging the Pakistani forces into tactical chaos. It has now emerged that airspace he was operating in had seamless radar cover and was defended round the clock by enemy aircraft equipped with modern beyond visual range missiles. “Opportunity to penetrate this hostile threat envelope was limited and the launch window to deliver the weapon was significantly short. His (Arora’s) profile entailed tactical formation routing at low level by dark night followed by aggressive manoeuvring, so as to achieve launch parameters to deliver the weapon accurately and simultaneously evade hostile defences. Despite the overwhelming presence of the opposing forces in large numbers, he fired his weapon on the designated targets keeping mission objectives above personal safety,” reads Arora’s Vir Chakra citation, which also reveals the additional challenges he faced.


During weapon delivery, he was flying under adversary’s lethal ranges and had multiple aerial and ground launches on him but the attacks carried out by him and his unit against the adversary were so intense that they rendered them incapable of retaliating.

Group Captain Animesh Patni, also awarded Vir Chakra for his uncommon courage, was commanding a surface-to-air missile squadron at a forward base during the operation. He has been hailed for guiding his team with precision and flair, resulting in a decisive blow to the capabilities of adversaries, inflicting significant losses without suffering any damage.

“The officer’s contributions during the operation were instrumental, as he supervised surveillance over a very large area and controlled two firing units. His unwavering focus, unrelenting drive, and ability to devise innovative solutions to complex problems ensured substantial losses of opposing forces while safeguarding his equipment, even in the face of intense fire,” Patni’s citation says.


Apart from the 15 Vir Chakras, among the 127 gallantry medals and 40 distinguished service awards cleared by the President were four Kirti Chakras, 16 Shaurya Chakras, two bar to Sena Medals (Gallantry), 58 Sena Medals (Gallantry), six Nao Sena Medals (Gallantry), 26 Vayu Sena Medals (Gallantry), seven Sarvottam Yudh Seva Medals, nine Uttam Yudh Seva Medals and 24 Yudh Seva Medals.

Excerpts from some of the other Vir Chakra citations

Wing Commander Joy Chandra:
The operation required intricate planning, precise coordination, exceptional airmanship and highest level of situation awareness owing to the presence of a heavily networked AD grid of adversaries, comprising AD aircraft and surface-to-air guided weapons SAGWs). The formation flew at low levels on the tactical route to avoid detection by radars and at the opportune moment pulled up to higher levels for weapon release. As the mission progressed, the strike package was challenged by rapid air response both by way of AD aircraft and SAGWs. Throughout the mission, despite being within lethal range of weapon systems, he maintained calm and focus to ensure destruction of the designated targets.


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