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@steppeWolf Akinci Drone is more advanced than TB2, you are not using them again?



No Bayraktar Drones For India; Turkish CEO Says Will Sell TB2 UAVs Only To Brotherly Nations Like Pakistan, Ukraine

In any case of an Indo Pak War, its a no brainer all kinds of Turkish weaponry and tech would be used an improved upon including Akinci.
 

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That's not good. I always thought Pakistan should have invested significantly more in submarines then their surface fleet. Turkish frigates are great and all but against India's navy, they're seemingly outclassed. I'm presuming there is going to be a much heavier reliance on Pakistan's anti-ship/cruise missiles for area denial and blockade-breaking along it's coast. Has Pakistan invested in the newer Chinese anti-ship missiles? I know they have some indigenous designs.
 

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I always thought Pakistan should have invested significantly more in submarines
Pakistan has 4 Agosta class AIP submarines that recently went through a mid life upgrade done by Turkish STM.

Plus we are getting 8 Hangor class subs from China. 2 have been delivered. 2 under construction in Karachi naval dockyards at the moment. Rest will come too.

Suffice to say, IN would get some nasty surprises in Arabian Sea.
 

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I'm presuming there is going to be a much heavier reliance on Pakistan's anti-ship/cruise missiles for area denial and blockade-breaking along it's coast. Has Pakistan invested in the newer Chinese anti-ship missiles? I know they have some indigenous designs.
Indeginous missiles include

Harbah Missile, subsonic with 700+ km range.
Babur-1 with 700 km range.
Babur-1A with enhanced avionics and navigation systems with range of 450 km
Babur-1B with extended range exceeding 900 km
Babur-2 with better targeting and without reliance on GPS
Babur-3 which is submarine launched variant with a range of 450 km. Ensures nuclear triad.

And recently unveiled SMASH supersonic anti-ship ballistic missile equipped with a MARV warhead for precision strikes. Range 350km+
 

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Something is definitely cooking. Cargo might include Drones, EW systems, ATGMs etc. Pakistan has activated some airfields in Northern Pakistan.

On the Indian side, Israeli planes landed. Their own assets are having intense activity.

Both sides are preparing for a show down by the looks of it. Even last time in 2019, the aerial skirmish happened 2 weeks after the Pulwama attack in IIOJK.
 

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Guys, blowing off steam earlier in thread was tolerated and is brought to a close now.

Only professional posting henceforth. No more individual and collective potshots....i.e anything that can go both ways and will just derail the thread.

Thanks.
 

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I can see there's a lot of tension, but is there really going to be a war?
Highly unlikely tbh simply because both nations are nuclear powers
All of the talk regarding tanks, submarines, jets, or missiles are worth peanuts when it is compared to one sweet nuclear bomb

Here is the crux of the issue..... Mohdi screwed badly by allowing such a terror incident to occur (ofcourse if we believed that he didnt instigate it in the first place). In order to hide his incompetence, he blamed such an act on Pakistan; a well-known tactic employed by Mohdi throughout his decades-long rule and Pakistan uses similar tactics to hide their incompetence on many occassions as well

Now the publics of both nations are riled up and the leaders, in order to maintain their power, needs to show that they have the upper hand against the other; thus, india cuts water supply lines while Pakistan sends dozens of tanks, jets, and artillery towards the contact line.

Some skirmishes will occur here and there but no full blown-out war will occur since, if it does, then both India and Pakistan will be erased from the map
 

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, india cuts water supply lines
India simply cannot cut the supply since we have no infra on the three western rivers to hold and store water for prolonged periods. IWT at this point is temporarily suspended but not scrapped

Nevertheless, revising the treaty is long overdue and this strategy is probably to bring pak to the negotiating table
 

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