New visuals keep coming. It's not officially denied.
Live Conflict Pakistan-India Tensions
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New visuals keep coming. It's not officially denied.
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Honestly bro i don't even care about this conflict & i don't support either side. the only reason I'm here is because Indonesia order rafale and there is a big chance that rafale has been shot down, so because of that I'm kinda disappointed by the performance of IAF.
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Don't you guys got F16s? why did you even bought rafale, I have upmost trust in Indonesian pilots that you guys won't send your jets without ground support.
What are they talking about in the video?
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Because in the past our air force depend on one country which is the US so when they slap us with an embargoes that make our air force practically disabled.
so now we do Defense diversification because Relying on multiple suppliers helps reduce dependence on any single country, especially important when facing potential sanctions or embargoes. The funny thing is in recent months there is a rumour that we interested in buying J-10.
And just because 1 rafale got shot down I don't think Rafale is a bad aircraft I still think it's a very good fighter jet. I mean dozens of f-16 has been shot down but it doesn't immediately mean it's a bad aircraft, shit happens you know.
The craziest thing is India At the minimum losing 3 advance fighter jet at same night like that insanely bad performance from the IAF.
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100% confirmed that a Rafale was downed in Punjab, india. Nose cone, engine and killed civilians at the crash site (also reported by indian media).
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I think this is not the right way to look at it. I still think Rafale is better than any single seater out there. Or at least not inferior. Having few less TRMs on the aperture doesn’t create any significant disadvantage against other 4.5th fighters.
i think it has less to to do with any specific tech and more to do with PAF demonstrating a better air battle Management and integration across its asset enabling it to pull a winning manoeuvre in the night sky. It could be a JF17 B3 or something else that killed the Rafale (presumably) or even HQ9BE. We don’t know yet. IAF probably like the last time could not organise a large scale air to air manoeuvre.
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FM of Pakistan says J-10 shot down IAF fighters.
Bro 800 vs 1200, the difference is %50. This is not a difference of few TRMs. I have no doubts about the PAF, they are better trained and more professional side in this clash.
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It has been confirmed that Pakistan shot down an Indian Rafale fighter jet.
A wreckage was foundSeri number BS-001. It was India's first Rafale fighter jet.
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Meanwhile, in the real world
Next up : Pakistanis claiming technically drones are also aircraft and we shot those down
Next up : Pakistanis claiming technically drones are also aircraft and we shot those down
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Later (more time) I will sift through and remove derailments/trolling (members can also do their due diligence in interim and just delete/edit before I get to it).
For time being for objective analysis I would give very high marks to @Afif ....it has been dispassionate one and pretty much mirrors how I also have done it on my end with a (small gathering of) other OSINT-geeks (IND, PAK and some internationals) I trust.
So if you are interested in objective+balanced analysis, Afif is good one to follow here as long as he keeps up the job well ofc.
For time being for objective analysis I would give very high marks to @Afif ....it has been dispassionate one and pretty much mirrors how I also have done it on my end with a (small gathering of) other OSINT-geeks (IND, PAK and some internationals) I trust.
So if you are interested in objective+balanced analysis, Afif is good one to follow here as long as he keeps up the job well ofc.
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Because clearly in current conflict India is the loser, Do you guys think to save face India will escalate this even further by launching another attack or will they deescalate the situation and take the BIG FAT L this time by doing nothing ?
Clear to whom? Seems Pak and their supporters continue to clutch at straws.
