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I invented a system where you can place as many missiles as you want anywhere on the ship, eliminating the danger of fire, which is the most important threat to warships.

congratulate me.😂😂😂😂

You don't need very expensive navsl VLS.

Geminin üzerine yangın tehlikesi yüzünden koyulamayacak yerlere koyun bu lançerleri. Önlerine de sabit AESA plakaları. Ohh her yere koyun.
Bundan sonra oraya lançer konmaz orası yanar tehlikeli demeyin:)
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Bozdoğan, Gökdoğan,UMTAS,CIRIT etc. What ever you want.

First i would like to explain what the concentric canister launcher:

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Umkhonto SAM uses this VLS.

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İ have been thinking about limitations of RAM, Levent,Göksur naval launchers due to fire hazards.So i might have solved this problem.

Even those canister could be static if you use Datalink.
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Could UMTAS or Bozdoğan missiles be damaged if they were launched in such a way?
On the other hand this launcher should be bulky or missilemcapacity of the launcher should be reduced. Anyway it is much more cheaper than VLS, and safer than horizontal launchers. You could use every point of your warship.


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Most probably with Gökdoğan missiles it would look like as same as Mk29 launchers. BTW we could upgrade old warships with consenteric canisters.

So we could have rotating VLS😎
 
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Kalkan Decoy launcher may be configured like this. Though project is still on system requirements identification stage but if it goes through it will be present aboard all major ships in place of fixed decoy launchers and will be capable of launching RF-emitting/reflecting and IR signature mimicking decoys.

Dear i have another questions :)

Does Türkish Navy need ASROC ? İf yes instead of SIPER/HisarN i would put ASROC on ada class since it is an ASW Corvette ( it has decent sonar)
Would it be useful? Reaction time in ASW should be important.

We could create more compact version of ASROC .for instance:very light torpedo with rocket assistance . For current MIDLAS would be fit.



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Another question is what is your opinion about ramjet super cavity torpedos?

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Let's have fun little bit.

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Is it possible to put here two cell ASROC VLS?
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Do we load all MIDLAS with Heavy weight ASROC and strike length tubes? Maybe maximum 2-4!
ASROC is huge!!!
Mass1,409 lb (639 kg)
Length16 ft 1 in (4.89 m)
Diameter1 ft 2 in (358 mm)
Wingspan2 ft 3.4 in (696 mm)

Here i found the solution.
Using RAM launchers you launch very light mini torpedo with rocket assistance.

SeaPike is compact.
Diameter 124mm
Length app 2m
Weight just 35kg with booster!!!



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İndeed those were designed for RAM launchers!
Torpedo diameter 124 mm, so RAM launchers are enough to be fit .

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We should put on every corner of MİLGEMs 4x GÖKSUR launchers . 3 ASROC + 6 SAMs.

Thanks to rocket flies 8km, than in 500meters hits.

The advantage is very short reaction time.

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BTW Apart from this anti submarine rocket, this program evolved in USA very light torpedo program.

For UAVs , USVs, they created 100kg weighted, 180mm diameter , 2 m lengght mini torpedo with 11 km range.

Our USV and YTKB must have such very light torpedos.



We just must have these shits! Right now!
 
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Let's have fun little bit.

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Pretty overkill for Ada-class.

Behind the 76mm gun, Gökdeniz would suit pretty well, maybe even enough space for 8 MIDLAS.
Switching RAM with Roketsan Levent.
Additional two STAMP or UMTAS launcher.
If 8 VLS are not possible then HISAR launchers.

Eventually MAR-D, AKR-D, Aselsan DÜFAS
 

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I invented a system where you can place as many missiles as you want anywhere on the ship, eliminating the danger of fire, which is the most important threat to warships.

congratulate me.😂😂😂😂

You don't need very expensive navsl VLS.

Geminin üzerine yangın tehlikesi yüzünden koyulamayacak yerlere koyun bu lançerleri. Önlerine de sabit AESA plakaları. Ohh her yere koyun.
Bundan sonra oraya lançer konmaz orası yanar tehlikeli demeyin:)
@Anmdt
@Yasar_TR @dBSPL


Bozdoğan, Gökdoğan,UMTAS,CIRIT etc. What ever you want.

First i would like to explain what the concentric canister launcher:

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Umkhonto SAM uses this VLS.

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İ have been thinking about limitations of RAM, Levent,Göksur naval launchers due to fire hazards.So i might have solved this problem.

Even those canister could be static if you use Datalink.
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Could UMTAS or Bozdoğan missiles be damaged if they were launched in such a way?
On the other hand this launcher should be bulky or missilemcapacity of the launcher should be reduced. Anyway it is much more cheaper than VLS, and safer than horizontal launchers. You could use every point of your warship.


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Most probably with Gökdoğan missiles it would look like as same as Mk29 launchers. BTW we could upgrade old warships with consenteric canisters.

So we could have rotating VLS😎
no need to think about space on ships if there aint no ship.. i see you
 

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Pretty overkill for Ada-class.

Behind the 76mm gun, Gökdeniz would suit pretty well, maybe even enough space for 8 MIDLAS.

Unfortunately there's no space. İf there were, we would call it I -Class frigate:)

Switching RAM with Roketsan Levent.
Absolutely it would be useless. Levent and RAM are same shit. No difference. Levent can lock just line of sight . You cant preset fly path before or after launching. But Bozdoğan before launching cannpreprogrammed from radar data. Also future models will have Datalink. More range, higher altitude, heavier warhead in compact shape.
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Additional two STAMP or UMTAS launcher.
You can not stop Kamikaze unmanned surface vessels with STOP. Just top attack UMTAS could.

If 8 VLS are not possible then HISAR launchers.

There's no naval Hisar VLS launcher but we urge them.

Eventually MAR-D, AKR-D, Aselsan DÜFAS

Mar -D will have a lot of blind spot which cause gaps . 360 degree live time situational awareness very important against kamikaze USVs, Cruise missiles.
😅
 

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no need to think about space on ships if there aint no ship.. i see you
But i found the ships and modular solutions. My offer could be mounted all old frigates and new corvettes as well as ı-class
 

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