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As you know my first dream.
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YTKB with Gökdeniz CIWS. P
Why is it important? Because YTKBs are like workhorse against submarine dedection in Turkish shore.

With Mar-D x band radar , we could enhance Air defense umbrella at lowest level.
Putting it top of the vessel, you could get 360degree cover from any angle of Cruise missiles and Anti-ship missile attacks.
I also would like to add two launcher of mid range Anti-ship missiles.
The new Stinger variant could be add.
I added cirit in photo but i'm not sure it would be necessary with twin forty against helicopters.

Long in short: we have 16 YTKBs with Gökdeniz CIWS and Atmaca missiles they would cover Turkish Coastal defense under the sea either over the sea.
Gökdeniz cost and ammunitions must be cheaper than SAMs systems.
CIWS is much more efficient than expensive RAMs for point defense.
 

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As you know my first dream.
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YTKB with Gökdeniz CIWS. P
Why is it important? Because YTKBs are like workhorse against submarine dedection in Turkish shore.

With Mar-D x band radar , we could enhance Air defense umbrella at lowest level.
Putting it top of the vessel, you could get 360degree cover from any angle of Cruise missiles and Anti-ship missile attacks.
I also would like to add two launcher of mid range Anti-ship missiles.
The new Stinger variant could be add.
I added cirit in photo but i'm not sure it would be necessary with twin forty against helicopters.

Long in short: we have 16 YTKBs with Gökdeniz CIWS and Atmaca missiles they would cover Turkish Coastal defense under the sea either over the sea.
Gökdeniz cost and ammunitions must be cheaper than SAMs systems.
CIWS is much more efficient than expensive RAMs for point defense.

This is my ideal variant :cool:
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Saab, PT Lundin Bonefish USV

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Saab and P.T Lundin unveiled the BONEFISH at Indo Defence Expo 2014– a concept demonstration Unmanned Surface Vessel (USV) to gauge market interest. The platform combines a trimaran hull with remote and autonomous control systems. It is integrated with radar, acoustic and electro-optical sensors and multiple communication systems.


We could create Semi submergible unmanned vessel, apart from sensors Guided MLRS could be put .
So the vessel can cunnily can approach Greek shores and launch cheap trg230 rockets.

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Here is the Iranian semi-submergible torpedo boat.

It would be great for infiltrating to Greece, sending special forces.
 
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It's not personel consept. Turkish ship builder prepared all details which we dreaming for Türkmenistan but ours ignored this configuration.
In order to put otomat ASMs, they moved anti-submarine deep charge launcher to front. They also added french simbad SAM as point defence.
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Now am i crazy for desiring Gökdeniz CIWS and Atmaca missiles on the craft?
 

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Hover tanks from BF4 final stand dlc based on a real Soviet tank concept.

Could hover tanks especially unmanned ones perhaps be the weapons of the future???
 

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Could hover tanks especially unmanned ones perhaps be the weapons of the future???

Definitely once we figure out a more economic means of propulsion with any energy storage being very dense.

Energy density of current conventional fuels (to power lift turbines and fans etc) really limits this approach currently.
 

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Definitely once we figure out a more economic means of propulsion with any energy storage being very dense.

Energy density of current conventional fuels (to power lift turbines and fans etc) really limits this approach currently.

Lots of concepts that look good on paper but once implemented in reality they just dont work due to many factors.
 

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Here is what I am dreaming of, a stationary defense network that our vessels can use to extend their destructive capability. Add UAV to that network and we got a pretty nasty deterrent at sea.

Initially I want a network of smart buoy for sensor data and experience gathering, and we can take it from there with sensors down at bottom of the sea and extend it with cables or other smart solutions to light torpedo tubes or such hidden under a rockshape or such.

Signals should be able to be pickup by our satellite too.

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Of couse seabed light torpedo launchers would be necessary.
 

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I think it's similarly important that we make our claim on all those 150+ islets/islands. And plant smart surveillance system and sensors.

I would have given the damn order!

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How about a ground-effect vehicle?

Yes they aren't suitable for naval patrols, or any non-wartime use at all. This is due to the likelihood of striking a ship which is in the way.

However in the event of a naval conflict I think a ground-effect vehicle armed with anti-ship missiles could wreak havoc on an incoming fleet.

I'm not an expert on missiles, however I would imagine that a ground-effect vehicle would be difficult to hit due to its low flight altitude and sheer speed.

An unmanned ground-effect vehicle blitzing westwards in the Mediterranean could destroy a significant amount of vessels in a very short amount of time.

Though somewhat impractical, I do believe they can give an edge to any navy if used correctly.
 
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How about a ground-effect vehicle?

Yes they aren't suitable for naval patrols, or any non-wartime use at all. This is due to the likelihood of striking a ship which is in the way.

However in the event of a naval conflict I think a ground-effect vehicle armed with anti-ship missiles could wreak havoc on an incoming fleet.

I'm not an expert on missiles, however I would imagine that a ground-effect vehicle would be difficult to hit due to its low flight altitude and sheer speed.

An unmanned ground-effect vehicle blitzing westwards in the Mediterranean could destroy a significant amount of vessels in a very short amount of time.

Though somewhat impractical, I do believe they can give an edge to any navy if used correctly.
Unfortunately it doesnt work against waves.
 

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There are 150 islands ,we could rise our flag before constructing new lighthouse.
The greeks will just remove the flags.

Raise flag and build on them, automatic gun turrets guided by sensors should work wonders.

A large ground-effect vehicle should be able to handle most of the conditions it'll face in the Mediterranean.

I think smaller FAC would be better. Personelle wise and such.
 

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It's not personel consept. Turkish ship builder prepared all details which we dreaming for Türkmenistan but ours ignored this configuration.
In order to put otomat ASMs, they moved anti-submarine deep charge launcher to front. They also added french simbad SAM as point defence.
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Now am i crazy for desiring Gökdeniz CIWS and Atmaca missiles on the craft?

Well, atleast with the current designs Frigates and Destroyers, Turkish Navy is going to have a lot of potential firepower. Looking forward to seeing same increased pontential on the new FACS
 

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