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What are your guys thoughts on this?
Because Biden refused meet him in New York, he started to trip like a teenage girl.

It's sad to see, hundreds years old Turkish foreign relations and diplomacy became a plaything of one man's fantasy.
 
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Because Biden refused meet him in New York, he started to trip like a teenage girl.

It's sad to see, hundreds years old Turkish foreign relations and diplomacy became a plaything of one man's fantasy.
Its our peoples fault they voted for this lad
 
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Its our peoples fault they voted for this lad
60 years ago same thing happened with Adnan Menderes. I can't believe we couldn't improved an inch after all these years.

Adnan Oktar, Cübbeli, Erdogan. Still people using religion in order to increase their wealth and still people buying the same trick....
 
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60 years ago same thing happened with Adnan Menderes. I can't believe we couldn't improved an inch after all these years.

Adnan Oktar, Cübbeli, Erdogan. Still people using religion in order to increase their wealth and still people buying the same trick....
Adnan menders was proto erdogan
 

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Turks are muslims and Turkey is a muslim nation for 1000 years now. Face it.

The Turkish Army is called 'Mehmetcik' by everyone in Turkey, muslim or atheist.

Mehmet is the Turkish equivalent of Muhammed.

Mehmetcik means little Mehmets.

Little Mehmets/Mohammeds.

So Turkish soldiers are all little Muhammed's.

Even more reason we should be suspicious of "Islamists" because if there is an easy way to cheat and deceive Turks, its to pretend you are a Muslim. All of the sudden the Turk loses his ability to reason.

Remember the cypto's of the Ottoman state outside appeared more Muslim then the Turks, but in private life they hated the religion and the people of the religion.

Nearly all of the AK party elite if not all are non-Turks, that isn't by chance. Erdogan is a Georgian for example. Bulent Arinc was Greek while Gul was a Kurd/Arab mix. Let that sink that nearly all of these so-called Islamists are not ethnic Turks. Reminds me of the dying days of the Ottomans were the entire state was infiltrated and ran by crypto Muslims.

That tells me that these "cypto's" made it a political policy to keep the Turks outside of their gang. Even the head of Turkish intelligence is a Kurd. To me that hasnt happened by chance, these minorities, agents are working together.
 

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Because Biden refused meet him in New York, he started to trip like a teenage girl.

It's sad to see, hundreds years old Turkish foreign relations and diplomacy became a plaything of one man's fantasy.

Geopolitically he's shockingly bad. So weak and incompetent.

These clowns dragged Turkey into the Syrian quagmire. It created a situation where Turkey is the only country on earth that has to contend with both the USA and Russia at the same time. Shockingly stupid politics.

People need to leave their religion at the door, you wouldn't employ a loser and tolerate him dragging your business into the ground, no matter how religious he appears. Why do we tolerate the same clown dragging the nation into the gutter.

Russians attacking even Afrin and the clown is talking about buying more s400. Russians know erdogan is a pussy and they got him by the balls. They slap him and instead of military retaliation he's begging to spend money on russian junk.

It all makes perfect sense now why those Turkish generals resigned, they would have told erdogan its war and erdogan would have refused them instead to beg Putin. Absolute clown.
 

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Geopolitically he's shockingly bad. So weak and incompetent.

These clowns dragged Turkey into the Syrian quagmire. It created a situation where Turkey is the only country on earth that has to contend with both the USA and Russia at the same time. Shockingly stupid politics.

People need to leave their religion at the door, you wouldn't employ a loser and tolerate him dragging your business into the ground, no matter how religious he appears. Why do we tolerate the same clown dragging the nation into the gutter.

Russians attacking even Afrin and the clown is talking about buying more s400. Russians know erdogan is a pussy and they got him by the balls. They slap him and instead of military retaliation he's begging to spend money on russian junk.

It all makes perfect sense now why those Turkish generals resigned, they would have told erdogan its war and erdogan would have refused them instead to beg Putin. Absolute clown.
I truly am interested in what will happen on the 29th; i-e, tomorrow
 

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If he has mental problems, than qe a have a big problem.

Why do they call fascists 'brownvests'? Because the SA of Ernst Röhm and the street teams of Mussolini were wearing brown uniforms.

Now the new established Bekçiler in Turkey also wearing brown uniforms. They use more violence than the average police officer and they walk at every corner in the street.
 

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I have come across this bizarre claim that in August 2020, Mediterranian Sea Turkish navy jammed the communications/radars of a French ship using loitering munitions. I obviously couldnt find anything regarding this in international media, only some of our pro-government media.

There must be a limit to propaganda. It should make sense first of all and it cannot be this deliberate. What is unfortunate is that people believe in these. How would loitering drones jam a ship?


These retards put even Erbakan in their propaganda. Typical political islamists... These people call themselves journalists. I cant guess how absurd it will get anymore, will they show Star Wars sequences as news next time?

''Durum tam olarak nedir ayrıntılı bir bilgi yok ancak net olan bir şey var ki Yunanistan’ın gereken cevabı aldığı…''

I want to throw up.

How can you accuse opposition of being sceptical of anything you say when you are this immoral?


This clown is on-board as well. Abdullah Çiftçi, they put this clown in mainstream media and this nation gets exposed to his opinions.

Things like this make me question every positive development I hear.

And they would call you ''vatan hayını!'' when you tell them how bizarre of a lie what they tell is.

Look, a retard responded to his tweet with this:
''İçimizdeki yunanlılar bunada inanmaz şimdi :D''
 

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Geopolitically he's shockingly bad. So weak and incompetent.

These clowns dragged Turkey into the Syrian quagmire. It created a situation where Turkey is the only country on earth that has to contend with both the USA and Russia at the same time. Shockingly stupid politics.

People need to leave their religion at the door, you wouldn't employ a loser and tolerate him dragging your business into the ground, no matter how religious he appears. Why do we tolerate the same clown dragging the nation into the gutter.

Russians attacking even Afrin and the clown is talking about buying more s400. Russians know erdogan is a pussy and they got him by the balls. They slap him and instead of military retaliation he's begging to spend money on russian junk.

It all makes perfect sense now why those Turkish generals resigned, they would have told erdogan its war and erdogan would have refused them instead to beg Putin. Absolute clown.

Yeah the whole thing with getting the Russians and Americans to cooperate against you is some messed up stuff.

I honestly didnt pay too much attention to Turkey's problems till the whole thing in Syria really exploded, and then a whole cascade of confusing policy followed with trying to court Russia on things while fighting them.

Then that whole S-400 thing started.

Erdogan really piled this on turkey in such short period of time, its nuts.
 

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Yeah the whole thing with getting the Russians and Americans to cooperate against you is some messed up stuff.

I honestly didnt pay too much attention to Turkey's problems till the whole thing in Syria really exploded, and then a whole cascade of confusing policy followed with trying to court Russia on things while fighting them.

Then that whole S-400 thing started.

Erdogan really piled this on turkey in such short period of time, its nuts.

Even a child couldn't have got it as wrong or as badly as erdogan has. Its insane.
 

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60 years ago same thing happened with Adnan Menderes. I can't believe we couldn't improved an inch after all these years.

Adnan Oktar, Cübbeli, Erdogan. Still people using religion in order to increase their wealth and still people buying the same trick....
To bad you can not hang Erdogan in sharade judgical process like Menderes was, it must be hard to cope.
 

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The worst thing about erdogans war on Assad, he basically forced Assad to turn into a Russian vassal. He opened the doors for other big powers to embed themselves in syria like the USA and it allowed the PKK to create another state in the region.

The syrian fiasco alone should be reason enough to have all these ak party fools facing the courts for grand negligence.
 
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To bad you can not hang Erdogan in sharade judgical process like Menderes was, it must be hard to cope.
Menders broke the instution he illegaly transfered money to his account he also raided a turkish university and gave order soldiers to open fire at civilians?
 

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Menders broke the instution he illegaly transfered money to his account he also raided a turkish university and gave order soldiers to open fire at civilians?
Sure, no doubt about it :).
 

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The worst thing about erdogans war on Assad, he basically forced Assad to turn into a Russian vassal. He opened the doors for other big powers to embed themselves in syria like the USA and it allowed the PKK to create another state in the region.

The syrian fiasco alone should be reason enough to have all these ak party fools facing the courts for grand negligence.
The opposition forces was knocking on the gates of damascus leading to bashar running for help from russia and his shia brothers. Stop blaming everything on erdogan🤦‍♂️ Have some balance please
 

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The opposition forces was knocking on the gates of damascus leading to bashar running for help from russia and his shia brothers. Stop blaming everything on erdogan🤦‍♂️ Have some balance please
What @GoatsMilk probably meant is that if Turkey had taken a neutral stance on Syria Aand not entered it, Assad would have other alternatives than Russia to turn to; which would give Turkey some leverage on Assad to help Turkey in their fight against the PKK in return for recognition. It is a valid argument that makes sense strategically tbh but highly unlikely to happen under CHP's rule as they are more leaning towards Western rights than their country's own rights (talking about the CURRENT CHP)

CHP is way too Pro-West; thus, if the West doesnt like Assad, then the CHP would follow suit. I dont really expect too much from the CHP tbh. They are a party whose core members are questioning theit country's own "Blue Homeland" doctrine. It is just way too stupid. However, while I hate the CHP, it doesnt justify turning a blind eye towards Erdo's mistakes. Erdo has been too lenient on Russia. I do understand that Russia is training Turkish scientists on nuclear tech. And no EU country will help Turkey against Russia but still the Russians are growing way too comfy with the status quo. I myself have some theories regarding the current situation but I dont wanna speak a lot; just hope tomorrow's meeting give something useful
 

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What @GoatsMilk probably meant is that if Turkey had taken a neutral stance on Syria Aand not entered it, Assad would have other alternatives than Russia to turn to; which would give Turkey some leverage on Assad to help Turkey in their fight against the PKK in return for recognition. It is a valid argument that makes sense strategically tbh but highly unlikely to happen under CHP's rule as they are more leaning towards Western rights than their country's own rights (talking about the CURRENT CHP)

CHP is way too Pro-West; thus, if the West doesnt like Assad, then the CHP would follow suit. I dont really expect too much from the CHP tbh. They are a party whose core members are questioning theit country's own "Blue Homeland" doctrine. It is just way too stupid. However, while I hate the CHP, it doesnt justify turning a blind eye towards Erdo's mistakes. Erdo has been too lenient on Russia. I do understand that Russia is training Turkish scientists on nuclear tech. And no EU country will help Turkey against Russia but still the Russians are growing way too comfy with the status quo. I myself have some theories regarding the current situation but I dont wanna speak a lot; just hope tomorrow's meeting give something useful
I see. I respect actually the way turkey had dealt with the situation. If it was not for turkey so many would have been butchered. I respect turkeys foreign policy, and many arabs have huge respect on how turkey have dealth with the situation. They do the right thing for the weak people, bur i get your point. When it comes to turkey and russia i think its a bit more complicated then just a couple of turkish scientist studying abroad. I think we all can remember how the world reacted to turkey when they first intervened. So much sanctions, and pressure from the hole world. Maybe its about the timing. Turkey is been cornered by the hole world now. Me personally i think erdogan is building for the future and the next leader. I think the next generation will have a strong leader when turkey already has a strong defence industry.
 

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