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Look how strategically he sits, the central head-chair with Aliyev on his side and Iran, Belarus and Russia are sitting together at the sidecouch listening.

Thats a world leader.

Kilicdarouglou would be put in some little chair somewhere at the corner of the toilet, like they did with Ecevit.
They may have treated Ecevit disrespectfully but Ecevit was a great president. He wasn’t given sufficient opportunity to rule the country but he was an exception among a series of incompetent presidents. Charisma of a person or how good he speaks shouldn’t be a criteria. Ecevit spoke English eloquently btw.
 

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There's something about our regions politics which makes it super cosy
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Look how strategically he sits, the central head-chair with Aliyev on his side and Iran, Belarus and Russia are sitting together at the sidecouch listening.

Thats a world leader.

Kilicdarouglou would be put in some little chair somewhere at the corner of the toilet, like they did with Ecevit.

Credit where its due Erdogan knows body language.

This was a based move.
 

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world leader who fills his country with illegal immigratns world leader who didn't even went to university yeah.

Also ecevit did more than your corrupt president who can't even invade syria without getting permission from either russians or americans.

Don't tell me how your islamist hoca started the Cyprus Intervention he literally said that we should wait when USA gave us the ultimatom.

Erbakan actually said lets wait for the ultimatum while telling the TSK to get ready for war.

He explains that with his own words.

Be honest here even if you dont like him.
 

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I think they are preparing to attack us. First Greece and now south Cyprus is getting ready. I am guessing they are waiting for the elections. If the new government is willing to make concessions they may decide not to attack. Even there I am not sure. They might still try to attack and perhaps divide the country. As the new government may be more open to this faced with some force. If AKP wins they will surely attack to weaken our country. But in that case they can not go further. So the second independence war is approaching my friends. West does not want us as equal partners. Actually they want us to disappear from this world. So much hate against us if you read their newspapers. Don’t know how East thinks of us. But neither Russia, Iran, nor China are good examples. We need to accept sacrifices and build the fucking bomb or equivalent technology. Otherwise these guys will not give up their plans.
 

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Result of Akp and it's losing policies ..
Now ,since we can not apply policies , we are taken to eastern non democratic alliances!! See akp fans what akp does. Even in the economically so bad days, we were in a position to block all anti-Turkish groups!!


Hahahhahahahahaha
Man you are soo funny these days

Let me clarify something; the USA doesnt care who rules Turkey (whether CHP or AKP) as long as it obeys them and this is jecessary in order to maintain a status quo in the region in which one's military isnt stronger than the other and vice versa. Such an endeavour ensures that all parties are unable to change the status quo by themselves and need to the US help to initiate what they want. This is necessary ensure that US interest in the region is preserved

Such status quo is broken by Turkey due to its defemce industry boon and this irritates its adversaries like Greece and Cyprus while shifting the status quo towards Turkey's favour. Therefore, in order to counter that, the US removed the arms embargo on Cyprus to rearm it and ensure that Turkey isnt extremely superior to either Greece and Cyprus so that Turkey can be contained when needed. If you need the US to reinstate their arms embargo, all what you need to do is destroy TSK defense industry rather than the person in power.... PERIOD!

Hope that you understood!
 

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Hahahhahahahahaha
Man you are soo funny these days

Let me clarify something; the USA doesnt care who rules Turkey (whether CHP or AKP) as long as it obeys them and this is jecessary in order to maintain a status quo in the region in which one's military isnt stronger than the other and vice versa. Such an endeavour ensures that all parties are unable to change the status quo by themselves and need to the US help to initiate what they want. This is necessary ensure that US interest in the region is preserved

Such status quo is broken by Turkey due to its defemce industry boon and this irritates its adversaries like Greece and Cyprus while shifting the status quo towards Turkey's favour. Therefore, in order to counter that, the US removed the arms embargo on Cyprus to rearm it and ensure that Turkey isnt extremely superior to either Greece and Cyprus so that Turkey can be contained when needed. If you need the US to reinstate their arms embargo, all what you need to do is destroy TSK defense industry rather than the person in power.... PERIOD!

Hope that you understood!
Sorry why are you laughing ??? It only shows your level! and you know shit about Türkiye. We used to be strong politically and we used to have support in USA thx to Israel relations. But akp fucked it up and hence all anti Turkish coalition made an alliance thx to akp policies!! Before talking to a turk about Türkiye , tries to knows issues first. Do not try to cover akp idiot policies.
We are drawn into east not because west fors not want us ,but due idiot policies of akp!!
 

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I think they are preparing to attack us. First Greece and now south Cyprus is getting ready. I am guessing they are waiting for the elections. If the new government is willing to make concessions they may decide not to attack. Even there I am not sure. They might still try to attack and perhaps divide the country. As the new government may be more open to this faced with some force. If AKP wins they will surely attack to weaken our country. But in that case they can not go further. So the second independence war is approaching my friends. West does not want us as equal partners. Actually they want us to disappear from this world. So much hate against us if you read their newspapers. Don’t know how East thinks of us. But neither Russia, Iran, nor China are good examples. We need to accept sacrifices and build the fucking bomb or equivalent technology. Otherwise these guys will not give up their plans.
It is place where akp took us!! We had no issue like this in the past , now we have a PKK in Syria with USA support. All because of political blindness. We do not forget what that akp called out foreign relations officers in the past!! This is the place where akp officials took the country. If we will make an independence war, it should be with out akp in power!!
 

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I am tired of forum members here attacking each other over perceived "treachery" to their mother country.

You speak of foreign forces attempting to weaken Turkey from within yet you appear to contribute quite heartily yourselves to that cause with such rhetoric.

It's making this sub-forum a somewhat unpleasant experience to behold so I'd like to ask participants to consider their words before putting them to keyboard.
 

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I am tired of forum members here attacking each other over perceived "treachery" to their mother country.

You speak of foreign forces attempting to weaken Turkey from within yet you appear to contribute quite heartily yourselves to that cause with such rhetoric.

It's making this sub-forum a somewhat unpleasant experience to behold so I'd like to ask participants to consider their words before putting them to keyboard.
Thats the thing with Turks,they disagree on everything until a real enemy appears.
Then you see a sudden unity,all fighting for a common cause.
''Strange people these Turks(Romans)'',Obelix(Astérix le Gaulois).
 

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The PKK, the Greek Cypriot side, Greece, Armenia, YPG/PKK are not a threat to us. USA, Europe and other countries are deceiving themselves.
 
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He is trying to make Turkey one of the 3 Rd world shit holes like Türkmenistan etc, where people are slaves of one family!!
We should get rid of akp asap!!

Thats not true. Turkmenistan is much worse than Turkiye with Tayyips neopotism nothing compares to Turkmenistan when they have lots of weird and dumb shit like their leaders naming their months after their fathers and mothers along with statues dedicated to a dog.

Also have respect for Turkmenistan the land of our ancestors.
 

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Thats not true. Turkmenistan is much worse than Turkiye with Tayyips neopotism nothing compares to Turkmenistan when they have lots of weird and dumb shit like their leaders naming their months after their fathers and mothers along with statues dedicated to a dog.

Also have respect for Turkmenistan the land of our ancestors.
That is why I said like Türkmenistan! We are heading in that direction. I love turkmens but not their management
 

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That is why I said like Türkmenistan! We are heading in that direction. I love turkmens but not their management

I dont think so really.

Turkmenistan is a totaltarian regime with a cult of personality run by a single family.

Even if Tayyip is authoratarian or has his guys in the top.

Turkiye is not heading that direction no matter what. Are you forced to worship Erdogan? Has erdogan brought out a book which everybody must be forced to read. Has Tayyip cut all medical services and libaries in every city? Thats what Turkmenistan has done they cut all medical services and made it one city. Turkmenistan also banned certain colours of cars

Turkmenistan is much worse. Its pretty insulting to be even be comparing your curren situation with them. If any Turkmen moved to Turkiye it will be a heaven for them no matter what.

Turkmenistan has already restricted Turkmens from going to Turkiye as most who go never come back to Turkmenistan.

If we all lived there we wont survive 1 second.
 

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