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Oh for f sake

@Ryder @Fuzuli NL

new "peace process" is in full swing

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1890461955074273757

 

[Ryder]

Oh for f sake

@Ryder @Fuzuli NL

new "peace process" is in full swing

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1890461955074273757

You know Tayyip erdogan proposed autonomy to the Kurdish majority places.

Autonomy on dan sonra they will ask for independance.

Not surprised why they threw Umit Ozdag. Regardless of what people think of him his against politicians committing treason.

Him being in jail is now going to bolster his support. Tayyip Erdogan shot himself in the foot. He was even thrown into jail once. He hasnt learnt anything.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

The whole world is going authoritarian and the democratic states are either watching or sucking up to them.
While the world watches corruption, oligarchy, fascism, populism, and anti-democratic moves by western and western-allied governments,
Mr Erdogan may have seen the opportunity to act upon that.
But instead of obliterating the YPG/PKK/DEM, he blatantly goes after opposition leaders and now TÜSiAD.
A real deal breaker for many if you ask me.

 

[Ryder]

The whole world is going authoritarian and the democratic states are either watching or sucking up to them.
While the world watches corruption, oligarchy, fascism, populism, and anti-democratic moves by western and western-allied governments,
Mr Erdogan may have seen the opportunity to act upon that.
But instead of obliterating the YPG/PKK/DEM, he blatantly goes after opposition leaders and now TÜSiAD.
A real deal breaker for many if you ask me.

He cares more about his throne than the national interests or security.

Indonesians sang Cedin Deden to him. All it ever did was stroke his ego.

Ama his propaganda is all about how he is the next Osmanli or the next Ataturk.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Just found out about this:

Turkish Interior Ministry removes Van mayor Abdullah Zeydan, appoints trustee - Türkiye Today

Turkish Interior Ministry removes Van Mayor Abdullah Zeydan from office over terrorism-related charges

www.turkiyetoday.com

How's this vermin PKK rat was allowed in Turkish politics in the first place?????

 

[Bilge adam reis]

Yes, but not to the same extent as today. International trade on the scale you describe was not possible during the Cold War and until the 1990s and 2000s, Turkey simply did not have the contacts for diversified trade with several countries. The economy was linked to that of the West. Thanks to the coups, every time the country was on the verge of emancipation political and economics, it was put back on the EU & NATO dependency line with suddenly attacked by debt, interest rates, rating agencies to keep them back in western spheres.
Sorry, but these are not coincidences - they are familiar patterns.

I have great respect for you, but you don't know much about real geopolitics.
If you describe it that there were hardly any differences to the past, why was the currency worth toilet paper in 70,80, 90s in Turkey much more then now.

How can you keep a country small through economic control, dependencies and selective pressure? With these means...
From the 1950s to the 2000s, Turkey was an absolute nothing economically, geopolitically and militarily and under Full Control from USA & EU.

1. 1960 Coup (Adnan Menderes Government)​

• Economic Situation Before the Coup:
  • In the 1950s, Turkey under Adnan Menderes pursued economic liberalization, investing in infrastructure, agriculture, and industrialization.
  • Turkey took loans from the West, but Menderes also sought economic independence and started engaging with the Soviet Union for trade and development projects.
  • Inflation and economic problems were rising, leading to tensions.
• Why Did the Coup Happen?
  • Menderes clashed with the military and the secular elite.
  • His outreach to the Soviet Union and attempts at independent economic policies made him inconvenient for the West.
  • The military staged a coup, and Menderes was executed.

2. 1971 Coup ("Memorandum Coup")​

• Economic Situation:
  • In the 1960s, Turkey followed a state-led economic model focused on import substitution and industrial growth.
  • The economy was becoming less dependent on the West, with a growing domestic industrial sector.
  • Meanwhile, leftist movements and trade unions gained influence, increasing resistance to Western economic dominance.
• Why Did the Coup Happen?
  • The military issued a memorandum forcing Prime Minister Süleyman Demirel to resign.
  • The increasing leftist influence in the economy and political instability were perceived as threats.
  • After the coup, neoliberal economic policies favoring the West were promoted.

3. 1980 Coup from Kenan Evren ​

• Economic Situation:
  • The 1970s were marked by a severe economic crisis with high inflation, unemployment, and political unrest.
  • There were attempts to stabilize the economy through protectionist measures and a more independent industrial policy.
  • At the same time, violent clashes between leftist and right-wing groups escalated.
• Why Did the Coup Happen?
  • The military intervened, claiming to restore "stability."
  • After the coup, neoliberal economic reforms were introduced, benefiting Western interests.
  • Turkey was reintegrated into Western economic structures.

4. "Postmodern Coup" of 1997 (Against Erbakan)​

• Economic Situation:
  • Turkey started diversifying its economic partnerships, reducing dependence on the West.
  • Prime Minister Necmettin Erbakan built close ties with Islamic countries and attempted to establish an independent economic policy.
• Why Did the Coup Happen?
  • The military forced Erbakan to resign.
  • His economic and geopolitical shift away from the West was a major concern for secular elites and Western interests.
  • After his removal, Turkey returned to a pro-Western economic path.

5. 2016 Coup Attempt (Against Erdoğan)​

• Economic Situation Before the Coup Attempt:
  • In the 2000s and early 2010s, Turkey experienced strong economic growth under Erdoğan.
  • Dependence on the West was gradually reduced, with strengthened trade relations with Russia, China, and the Middle East.
  • Turkey began positioning itself more independently geopolitically, and taking a more active role in Europe and the Middle East
  • and the US increased, particularly over Turkey’s foreign policy in Syria and Libya.
• Why Did the Coup Attempt Happen?
  • Officially, the Gülen movement was blamed for the coup attempt, which previously had close ties to the West.
  • Many observers suspect that Western intelligence agencies were at least aware of the coup push, plans or tolerated them.
  • Erdoğan accused the West of indirectly supporting the coup, as relations between Turkey and the US/EU were strained at the time.
• After the Coup Attempt:
  • Erdoğan significantly consolidated his power and launched mass arrests of military personnel, judges, civil servants, and opposition figures.
  • Turkey continued to move toward political and economic independence and deepened its relations with USA, EU and also Russia, China, Africa and the Middle East.

according to this guy having less freedom is a good thing aight.

Enjoying other nations freedom and cheering for less freedom in your own country yeah islamism checks out. I hope to see right wing party win the elections in germany so I can welcome you to Turkiye @IC3M@N FX. To the admins seeing this don't expect me to not talk about how someone is cheering less freedom in the country that I live in.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

according to this guy having less freedom is a good thing aight.

Enjoying other nations freedom and cheering for less freedom in your own country yeah islamism checks out. I hope to see right wing party win the elections in germany so I can welcome you to Turkiye @IC3M@N FX. To the admins seeing this don't expect me to not talk about how someone is cheering less freedom in the country that I live in.

Which Islamism? Erdoğan has been in power for 15-20 years, both men and women still whore around when they have to. The women still put on miniskirts, still wear thongs on the beach and both men and women drink in bars in Istanbul, Antalya, Izmir & Co all night and fuck all night if the money is right.

So explain to me again if this is also possible in your form of freedom in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan and Iran & Co? You let Erdoğan tell you this and that from the opposition that it will be better when they come to power, but in the end the same thing will happen, people will do the same shit as Erdoğan, only with the subtle difference that they won't put some of the money in their own pockets, but all of it. They seem to be screwed several times over, like in Istanbul, where not even the most absurd things like garbage collection, sewerage, electricity and public transportation work properly.

If all the politicians before Erdogan were so good, why didn't they build an infrastructure for water and electricity and roads in Turkey, covering the whole of western and eastern Turkey, which are essential for a functioning state.... where were all the hospitals covering the whole of Turkey, where were all the airports covering the whole of Turkey, where was the TÜV, where was the arms industry that we know today?
Where is a healthcare system? Who prevented these parties from doing something good for their country, who prevented them from not doing it? Where were they?

I don't care who is in power, whether it's Erdogan or person XY, but I definitely want to see results and I can see that with him.

 

[Bilge adam reis]

Which Islamism? Erdoğan has been in power for 15-20 years, both men and women still whore around when they have to. The women still put on miniskirts, still wear thongs on the beach and both men and women drink in bars in Istanbul, Antalya, Izmir & Co all night and fuck all night if the money is right.

So explain to me again if this is also possible in your form of freedom in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan and Iran & Co? You let Erdoğan tell you this and that from the opposition that it will be better when they come to power, but in the end the same thing will happen, people will do the same shit as Erdoğan, only with the subtle difference that they won't put some of the money in their own pockets, but all of it. They seem to be screwed several times over, like in Istanbul, where not even the most absurd things like garbage collection, sewerage, electricity and public transportation work properly.

If all the politicians before Erdogan were so good, why didn't they build an infrastructure for water and electricity and roads in Turkey, covering the whole of western and eastern Turkey, which are essential for a functioning state.... where were all the hospitals covering the whole of Turkey, where were all the airports covering the whole of Turkey, where was the TÜV, where was the arms industry that we know today?
Where is a healthcare system? Who prevented these parties from doing something good for their country, who prevented them from not doing it? Where were they?

I don't care who is in power, whether it's Erdogan or person XY, but I definitely want to see results and I can see that with him.

results of being a shithole Its easy talk your mouth up there in germany mr muslims also calling turkish woman whores because they don't want to marry your pakistani cousins.

I can tell you this soon you'll be deported back Turkiye, also the hospitals you seem to talk about are all full you can't even get a fucking date Its like 3-4 months wait list, Like you don't even fucking live here talking your mouth there with this kind of shit, MKE existed before erdoğan airports that are wasted money Istanbul airport is outside of any fucking civilization, healthcare system is also failing, dumb ass islamist remove the TSK logo on your profile picture and put feto there, you probably were supporting them.

There is more mosques, or imam hatips built in this country than there is anything, you can't even open your mouth to talk shit about goverment or you get labeled as a terrorist Its easy to talk in your cozy home in berlin.

During the kura where they elected prosecutors akp members were calling out there cousins and their brothers. You cried about equality for years oh no my headscarf oh no my allah now you are trying enforce your will to the people Inshallah Islamaphbia will grow, side note for you Turks in turkey hate the ones like you that live in germany.

Becuase of retards like you I have to waste my youth in this god forsaken piece of shit of a country.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

Then go to a Christian country if you are ashamed to be Turkish or Kurdish/Turkish or Alevi & Sunni or nothing to see mosques where people pray. Kiss the ass of the Greeks, Germans & Co so that they think you're great and call you an ass-kisser without any culture & identity behind your back.
If you like humiliation go for it .

The Germans in Germany are foaming at the mouth because there are people like me who don't kiss ass and stand up to them.

 

[Bilge adam reis]

Then go to a Christian country if you are ashamed to be Turkish or Kurdish/Turkish or Alevi & Sunni or nothing to see mosques where people pray. Kiss the ass of the Greeks, Germans & Co so that they think you're great and call you an ass-kisser without any culture & identity behind your back.
If you like humiliation go for it .

The Germans in Germany are foaming at the mouth because there are people like me who don't kiss ass and stand up to them.

You islamist know more about kissing the ass of west, we have plenty of evidence for that. How does that feel being funded by british or the EU?
Give me my passport and money I'll be happy to leave this shithole.

You live in germany a christian country how does that feel?

 

[IC3M@N FX]

I have no time for you the subject is over for me if you are ashamed to be Turkish and live in an Islamic country that is your problem and not mine.
I will also avoid you in the future because you are a certain type of person who drags every success that the country has despite its mistakes into the mud apparently you have inferiority problems.

 

[Bilge adam reis]

I have no time for you the subject is over for me if you are ashamed to be Turkish and live in an Islamic country that is your problem and not mine.
I will also avoid you in the future because you are a certain type of person who drags every success that the country has despite its mistakes into the mud apparently you have inferiority problems.

You are a turk that lives in germany and supports a oppressive Islamist goverment while calling turkish woman whores, Im more Turk than you because I live here, audacity to talk about being ashamed while living on welfare.

Mf lives in a free country and wants a oppresive one for us and expects me to shut up.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

You are a turk that lives in germany and supports a oppressive Islamist goverment while calling turkish woman whores, Im more Turk than you because I live here, audacity to talk about being ashamed while living on welfare.

Mf lives in a free country and wants a oppresive one for us and expects me to shut up.

How do you know what I do or don't do, whether I'm on welfare or not? What's stopping you from taking control of your life and seeking and pushing for success? I started working with 1500€ and am now earning 5000€ a month at the age of 42.
There are people who earn more than me and there are people who earn less than me.
I achieved my personal success because I actively sought it and because I wanted it. If you work hard, you can force success, regardless of the country. If you expect other people to serve it to you then you can wait a long time for it, you remind me of the German Hartz4 (social benefit recipients) who are consumed with envy because they haven't got their lives under control and blame the government for it. You are the factor for your personal success & happiness, no one else.

 

[Bilge adam reis]

How do you know what I do or don't do, whether I'm on welfare or not? What's stopping you from taking control of your life and seeking and pushing for success? I started working with 1500€ and am now earning 5000€ a month at the age of 42.
There are people who earn more than me and there are people who earn less than me.
I achieved my personal success because I actively sought it and because I wanted it. If you work hard, you can force success, regardless of the country. If you expect other people to serve it to you then you can wait a long time for it, you remind me of the German Hartz4 (social benefit recipients) who are consumed with envy because they haven't got their lives under control and blame the government for it. You are the factor for your personal success & happiness, no one else.

Welfare dweller is trying to lecture me a real turk who is living in this harsh economy LOL!

Because of people like you I wasted my youth

We have allah inshallah who'll fight against the dollar!

 

[Rooxbar]

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

Leader of TÜSİAD was arrested for critising the government

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1892324800212730247

Meanwhile, a party allied with Erdoğan has said that Islamism is the solution to the "Kurdish issue" and that Kemalism is poison.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1892266732531708175

Faruk Dinç from HUDA PAR: "We know that your problem is Islam.

The cause of the Kurdish issue is Kemalism, and its solution is Islam.

Kemalism is poison, we will not swallow this poison."


The cat is out of the bag. Traitors are in the highest echelons of the state, tough times ahead my friends.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Leader of TÜSİAD was arrested for critising the government

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1892324800212730247

Meanwhile, a party allied with Erdoğan has said that Islamism is the solution to the "Kurdish issue" and that Kemalism is poison.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1892266732531708175

Faruk Dinç from HUDA PAR: "We know that your problem is Islam.

The cause of the Kurdish issue is Kemalism, and its solution is Islam.

Kemalism is poison, we will not swallow this poison."


The cat is out of the bag. Traitors are in the highest echelons of the state, tough times ahead my friends.

Their hatred and envy is of the Turks, they hide behind Islam. Huda Par is a Kurdish entity that operates under Iranian intelligence. As for these various Kurdish entities, they got plenty of Islam in Iran and their behaviour is no different. They got marxism in Syria and their behaviour is no different. They got secularism/kurdish style tribal rule in Iraq and their behaviour is no different. In Turkiye they have republicanism and personal liberty and their behaviour is no different.

The reality i feel is that maybe its just a Kurdish problem. Maybe the problem is just specific to the Kurds of the middle east who seem to always be betraying the states they reside in.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1892242844594614397

 

[Ryder]

Interesting how Erdogan is arresting everybody for hurting his fragile ego.

 

[Ryder]

Im really worried they are going to arrest this man.