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Who is this guy and what is he important with?
How haven't you heard him? He was brilliant guy of AKP. He laundred the money (which was stolen from US government )in Türkiye.

According to Sedat Peker: minister of Interior of Turkey leaked the information that soon he would be arrested. This information was given in the Ministry building.( His visit still hasn't been denied)

TV programmer Veysi Ateş on the behalf of Minister asked from the Businessman 10 million EUR.
 
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How haven't you heard him? He was brilliant guy of AKP. He laundred the money (which was stolen from US government )in Türkiye.

According to Sedat Peker: minister of Interior of Turkey leaked the information that soon he would be arrested. This information was given in the Ministry building.( His visit still hasn't been denied)

TV programmer Veysi Ateş on the behalf of Minister asked from the Businessman 10 million EUR.

Well bro... I can't know the stories of every shady guy close to AKP. They are just too many. :D
 

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I would like to show you another social problem of Turkey

Here is the Kayseri city hospital and in the que they are all Syrian pregnant women.
Wish you luck with them
At some point, all of these people will need to be deported. Preferably within the next 5-8 years. Turkey will not survive otherwise. You need to triple ethnic Turkish birth rates to even have a hope of keeping up. Or at the very least encourage immigration of well-educated, intelligent diaspora Turks and even sympathetic Westerners who can balance out the otherwise inevitable Arabization of the country. Aside from the economy, this is the most pressing issue in Turkey at the moment. Any party that doesn't explicitly intend to deal with this demographic suicide should get no votes. Especially since this goes hand-in-hand with Islamic radicalization which is something that Turkey must avoid at all costs.

BTW, hello there qardashlar, from a fellow brother across the Caucasus. New to this forum but a months-long lurker.
 

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Catch 22 which wil not be attended by chp hdp as they are basically bad reflection of western policies, you can not pursue all the perks of modernity and have lot of children and we see how they deal with natalism, they already tipped the point without return.
In demography sence Turkey can be saved only by highly tradicionalist/religous people, that is fact.
 

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Catch 22 which wil not be attended by chp hdp as they are basically bad reflection of western policies, you can not pursue all the perks of modernity and have lot of children and we see how they deal with natalism, they already tipped the point without return.
In demography sence Turkey can be saved only by highly tradicionalist/religous people, that is fact.
Highly traditionalist people making children is fine, the problem is that the ones popping out kids here are not Turks. Not even Syrian/Iraqi Turkmen or Turkic refugees like Uyghurs. And not even minorities like Bosniaks, who are able to integrate quite easily. These refugees and their kids will grow up and they will inevitably turn Turkey into another Syria unless Turkey finds a way to peacefully get rid of them. There are also non-peaceful ways but I would hope that most people here would naturally reject them.
 

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Highly traditionalist people making children is fine, the problem is that the ones popping out kids here are not Turks. Not even Syrian/Iraqi Turkmen or Turkic refugees like Uyghurs. And not even minorities like Bosniaks, who are able to integrate quite easily. These refugees and their kids will grow up and they will inevitably turn Turkey into another Syria unless Turkey finds a way to peacefully get rid of them. There are also non-peaceful ways but I would hope that most people here would naturally reject them.
That is why i said it is catch 22, traditionalistic and more religous people live in villages and those kind of people are keen to have more children due obvious reasons, in turkey those are mostly anatolia and south east if i am correct.
Ideology aside, one of the rational responces on incoming demoghraphy inbalance should be state deurbanisation, large cities are human grinding machines, simply make it more expensive then it is now and provide rural areas better infrastructure.
Syria refugees are separate issue...
 

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In demography sence Turkey can be saved only by highly tradicionalist/religous people, that is fact.
Yes we saw how traditionalist/religious people like Özal and Erdogan saved Turkish demography *sarcasm off*

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Kendi vatandasini soymak yetmedi, simdi hirsizlari ihrac ediyoruz amk.
 

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Yes we saw how traditionalist/religious people like Özal and Erdogan saved Turkish demography *sarcasm off*

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Kendi vatandasini soymak yetmedi, simdi hirsizlari ihrac ediyoruz amk.
I am not talking about any particular politican, just pointing out proven fact by wholesome science. Your conclusion is irrelevant untill you make counter argument under proper merit instrument.
 

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Unfortunetly, DEVA is not increasing it's votes. They are going between %2.5 - %1.5 for months. Instead IYI parti is on the rise.
Little by little into the middle,
They may stay at those rates but i think if they play their cards rights as elections are getting closer, the protesting conservative youth can vote for them.
Those statistics usually can not reflect the first time voters or protesting voters' view that good.
 

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I am not talking about any particular politican, just pointing out proven fact by wholesome science. Your conclusion is irrelevant untill you make counter argument under proper merit instrument.
Population growth has nothing to do with religion but economic circumstances.
 

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Population growth has nothing to do with religion but economic circumstances.
Really, why then population of japan, south korea half of western europe is aging and consequently decreasing rapidly?
It is quite opposite actually, poorest countires in the world have most vital demographic. Economy is not wanderer stick for everything....
 
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In the last few days, Popular names of CHP, Mansur and EKrem made, meetings in Adıyaman, Malatya and Gaziantep, where AKP was traditionally strong.




Interesting, opposition parties are at the streets al the time. They are working as if there is an election in the following months.
 

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Really, why then population of japan, south korea half of western europe is aging and consequently decreasing rapidly?
It is quite opposite actually, poorest countires in the world have most vital demographic. Economy is not wanderer stick for everything....
Lol you say economy is not tied to population growth but then say the poorest countries have the highest growth essentially confirming my statement.
I wonder why you didnt say the ''most conservative/religious'' if your hypothesis is correct.
 

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