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Haha very funny coming from someone who said that ‘’Ne mutlu Türküm diyene’’ is considered racist. He literally have zero credibility.

to me political islamists are basically the equivalent of the cultural Marxists/leftists that i see here in the UK. Where they even got to a point where they are telling people that its racist and hateful for the english to fly the english flag. same agenda taking place in Turkiye. Another 20 to 30 years of this agenda in Turkiye and declaring yourself Turkish will be a crime. They will even try to rename the state something meaningless like Anatolia. An incremental step by step process while pretending to be defending the victims of society. Same exact shit taking place in much of the west, a globalist agenda.
 

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Palestine vs Israel should not be a domestic issue.

That issue should be for geopolitcs or foreign issues.

Turkiye owes nothing to either country. Politicians in Turkiye all run on populism akp lost votes to Erbakan because of the palestine issue.

lets be honest that is retarded when a foreign issue is seen as something important in domestic issues.
 

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It seems like every time I gain a little bit of respect for Erdoğan he comes out and says something incredibly stupid.


Shouldnt all foreign signs be taken out apart from ones that are for tourists.

Every country has its own official language.

Pretty scary how Antalya has russian signs everywhere while the other parts of Turkiye its Arabic signs.

It ruins cohesion.
 

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Can the government interfere in the language of the signs on private property in the country you're living?

It depends as Australia technically does not have a official language but a defacto.

Its not properly enforced but shops here tend to have both English and their own languages on their signs.
 

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Writing signs in another language should be fine but these signs should always be accompanied by very prominent Turkish translations that are visible to everyone and not stuck in small font somewhere to the side. That should be non-negotiable and otherwise you should not be permitted to put up signs in Arabic, Russian, etc.
 

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Writing signs in another language should be fine but these signs should always be accompanied by very prominent Turkish translations that are visible to everyone and not stuck in small font somewhere to the side. That should be non-negotiable and otherwise you should not be permitted to put up signs in Arabic, Russian, etc.

I once went into fatih destrict istanbul, where the syrians/arab/kurdish refugees are in big numbers. All the shops nothing but Arabic signs. Walk in and ask for something in Turkish, they look at you in disgust and in english "say no Turkish". They couldn't give two shits for trying to learn the language or customs of the land.

disaster.

Ukrainian refugees here in the UK go out of their way to show their gratitude. Many of them in my area do lots of volunteer work, its like they are desperate to show the british they are greatful for the country who took them in. Almost like the complete opposite to what you see in Turkiye with the syrian refugees.
 

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I once went into fatih destrict istanbul, where the syrians/arab/kurdish refugees are in big numbers. All the shops nothing but Arabic signs. Walk in and ask for something in Turkish, they look at you in disgust and in english "say no Turkish". They couldn't give two shits for trying to learn the language or customs of the land.

PKK 2.0 I’ll tell you that. This will be really ugly.
 

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I once went into fatih destrict istanbul, where the syrians/arab/kurdish refugees are in big numbers. All the shops nothing but Arabic signs. Walk in and ask for something in Turkish, they look at you in disgust and in english "say no Turkish". They couldn't give two shits for trying to learn the language or customs of the land.

disaster.

Ukrainian refugees here in the UK go out of their way to show their gratitude. Many of them in my area do lots of volunteer work, its like they are desperate to show the british they are greatful for the country who took them in. Almost like the complete opposite to what you see in Turkiye with the syrian refugees.
I'm curious how the Ukrainian refugees in Turkey behave. Don't hear much about them.
 

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I'm curious how the Ukrainian refugees in Turkey behave. Don't hear much about them.
They are leagues better than anything that comes form the eastern or southern border. But they too must go at some point. They did some good PR work by cleaning Antalya beaches etc. That was in 2022 I think. I'd guess more than 90% will leave in the following 10 years.
 

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What is the background of this?

This trio, who detained Ayhan Bora Kaplan; Ankara Deputy Police Chief Murat Çelik (in a standing suit), Deputy Director of the Organized Branch Şevket Demircan (in a green shirt) and Commissioner Ufuk Gültekin (in white) were detained

I didn't know MIT had the authority for judicial investigations.


The common point of Ayhan Bora Kaplan's escaped lawyer and the secret witness of the case: DUBAI

Over the Ayhan Bora Kaplan investigation, there is a great power struggle and showdown within the government (to which the MHP is also a party). At a time when Interior Minister Ali Yerlikaya was preparing to crack down on public officials close to Bora Kaplan, he underwent a "counter-operation". In the incident, which was reflected in the conversation of the suspended police chiefs with the secret witness; Whether there is an attempted coup d'état or an effort to liquidate Yerlikaya, reinstate the old cadres and release Bora Kaplan by scaring Erdoğan through a 'new coup plot' will be revealed by the developments that will take place in the coming days.

However, Serdar Sertçelik, the secret witness who took part in this "counter" operation, is a remarkable name. Sertçelik reads the speeches in the videos he publishes on Youtube through a text. He 'talks' the police chiefs he calls, records them and serves them. Journalist Saygı Öztürk, in his column Sertçelik's be in Dubai

 

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Erdogan has released a number of people convicted in plotting the coup in the February 28 case.

Maybe the MHP forced his hand. I don't believe the reason that they had health problems, as others were left to die. I think this is the most likely case, he must have swallowed a lot of pride.

At the same time, the Kobane case. I wonder if there will be repercussions by ECHR again.
 
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In the 2019 local elections, Hacı Sülük, the father of Pütürge Mayor Mikail Sülük, who murdered Saadet Party witnesses Hasan Aktaş and İlyas Aktaş in Malatya, was pardoned by the President's decision.

I guess the prisons are so full of political prisoners murderers are being released all the time
 

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Erdogan has released a number of people convicted in plotting the coup in the February 28 case.

Maybe the MHP forced his hand. I don't believe the reason that they had health problems, as others were left to die. I think this is the most likely case, he must have swallowed a lot of pride.

At the same time, the Kobane case. I wonder if there will be repercussions by ECHR again.
There was an ongoing campaign by many people including ex-soldiers for their release. He both shows dominance with this and also tries to calm down the
ex-military men. This comes in a time where Selahattin Demirtas (APO the Second) was given 42 years of prison. I think Erdogan is showing gestures of reconciliation with some influential actors in the State after the weak results in the election and the coming end of his political career. A certain atmosphere is created including the rebalance in circles connected to the organized crime.
 
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plotting the coup in the February 28 case.
there were no coup this is a islamist propaganda army never forced Erbakan to resigned or take control of state never used violence , they just forced him to sign the 18 demand of MGK in order to prevent tarkikats, in this case fethullah gulen's tarikat, to take over state and army. one year after 28 şubat in another MGK meeting these generals prepared 600 page long report only for fethullah gulen's tarikat after that fethullah gulen ran away to US. former head of CIA in turkey Graham E. Fuller was the key to enabling his escaped. later the US at " bin sene meydan okuması tatbikatı " in Nevada desert practice how it will occupy turkey in 96 hours which was direct threat against hüseyin kıvrıkoğlu chief of general staff who wanted to arrest fethullah gulen but he escaped. for more info go read 18 demands of 28 subat MGK

Pro-American AKP removed the February 28 decisions

There was news in Milliyet newspaper dated March 4, 2011 that the enlightenment points of February 28 were officially deleted by the AKP government.

The USA challenged February 28 with an invasion exercise, then staged the Ergenekon plot and liquidated the February 28 decisions.

The showdown with the "thousand-year-old" challenges between US imperialism and the Kemalist Revolution is still on the agenda. That's why February 28 is not only yesterday's event but today's event.
 
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