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[Iskander]

ABİ what does any of this have to do with you fiercely defending Israel like they're your father's son? How do you explain secretly letting the Israeli President use Turkish airspace and naming the plane 'Shusha'?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2110639020288229625

Among all 1,000 of my publications, you will not find a single one in which I "defend" Israel. Herzog has arrived for an international meeting of Asian states. Personally, I do not approve of everything that is taking place. I have no idea where all of this will lead us.

Presumably, there were people in Ankara who deemed it appropriate to organize this meeting at this particular time. In principle, this entire conflict should never have happened in the first place.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2110987704397934954

 

[2033]

Among all 1,000 of my publications, you will not find a single one in which I "defend" Israel. Herzog has arrived for an international meeting of Asian states. Personally, I do not approve of everything that is taking place. I have no idea where all of this will lead us.

Presumably, there were people in Ankara who deemed it appropriate to organize this meeting at this particular time. In principle, this entire conflict should never have happened in the first place.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2110987704397934954

After all that ingratitude, what did you expect?

 

[Iskander]

Read my post again and tell me how this is an answer to it?

''In this case it is also Iranian islam influence.''

Which means both,the Turkish and Iranian islam.

You are right: this is not a response to your post. Rather, it is a generalization based on everything I have happened to read here. That said, you can easily rectify this omission—for which I thank you in advance.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Political Islamism among Muslim majority states operates and behaves in the exact same way the lunatic left operate in western societies. Every issue becomes a massive point of contention and friction, it thrives off a perceived victimhood. In the end the outcome is basically just a power grab for the state to obtain more control and power over her citizens. The abundance of useful idiots who were used to bring the system in to play are then rounded up and thrown in jail if not executed as seen in the soviet union or the "Islamic republic of Iran".

Do not make the mistake of giving into it, today its the hijab and tomorrow they will sell you marxist pkk terrorists who hate islam and have their hands in killing thousands of Muslims as a hero. Ocalan is a prime example, they even wanted this pig, this murderer of Muslims, this western backed terrorist to give a speech in parliament. This western asset whose designed to divide the Muslim world into smaller pieces to make it easier for the white man to enter and rule.

You must oppose them at every single opportunity and you must not give them an inch.

Muslims you must also understand, if they want to destroy your prosperity and peace, they will always use those who pretend to be Muslims to do it. Most of our political islamists are not only not Turks, they are from the minorities who have an axe to grind over the Turks.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

Political Islamism among Muslim majority states operates and behaves in the exact same way the lunatic left operate in western societies.

 

[Iskander]

Fifteen years ago, we witnessed a deterioration in relations between our governments. This was linked to the Zurich Protocols, which envisioned the establishment of diplomatic relations and the opening of borders between Turkey and Armenia. The situation back then was far more complex than it is today—though few people remember that now. We will overcome this, and our relations will improve. After all, there is a well-known truth: friends who have had a falling-out often come to value their friendship even more once they reconcile

 

[Yasar_TR]

Political Islamism among Muslim majority states operates and behaves in the exact same way the lunatic left operate in western societies. Every issue becomes a massive point of contention and friction, it thrives off a perceived victimhood. In the end the outcome is basically just a power grab for the state to obtain more control and power over her citizens. The abundance of useful idiots who were used to bring the system in to play are then rounded up and thrown in jail if not executed as seen in the soviet union or the "Islamic republic of Iran".

Do not make the mistake of giving into it, today its the hijab and tomorrow they will sell you marxist pkk terrorists who hate islam and have their hands in killing thousands of Muslims as a hero. Ocalan is a prime example, they even wanted this pig, this murderer of Muslims, this western backed terrorist to give a speech in parliament. This western asset whose designed to divide the Muslim world into smaller pieces to make it easier for the white man to enter and rule.

You must oppose them at every single opportunity and you must not give them an inch.

Muslims you must also understand, if they want to destroy your prosperity and peace, they will always use those who pretend to be Muslims to do it. Most of our political islamists are not only not Turks, they are from the minorities who have an axe to grind over the Turks.

Bro, I know you mostly take everything here from a political perspective and analyse it accordingly, adding your views to it. That is probably why I am not very keen on most of the stuff you post. (I just don’t like politics. Nothing to do with you)
Having said that, I think this is the best ever post you have written to date. Well said !

just to add:
a small differentiation needs to be understood;

A Muslim is a person who believes in the religion of Islam in a way that was meant to be believed in originally. Not stipulated and changed by clerics and men to suit their needs. And it must not be pushed on to people.

An Islamist is a person who manipulates people and the wording of the Islam religion to suit his or his cohorts’ agenda and pressurises others to believe what they believe . Not necessarily a Muslim himself.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Bro, I know you mostly take everything here from a political perspective and analyse it accordingly, adding your views to it. That is probably why I am not very keen on most of the stuff you post. (I just don’t like politics. Nothing to do with you)
Having said that, I think this is the best ever post you have written to date. Well said !

just to add:
a small differentiation needs to be understood;

A Muslim is a person who believes in the religion of Islam in a way that was meant to be believed in originally. Not stipulated and changed by clerics and men to suit their needs. And it must not be pushed on to people.

An Islamist is a person who manipulates people and the wording of the Islam religion to suit his or his cohorts’ agenda and pressurises others to believe what they believe . Not necessarily a Muslim himself.

Thank you!
A sane perspective at last.

 

[Iskander]

Statement by Writers and Poets of the Turkic World Regarding Azerbaijan and Turkey

“As poets and writers of the Turkic world gathered in the city of Kayseri, Republic of Turkey, we firmly condemn the ideas and statements raised in connection with the introduction of a unified school uniform in Azerbaijan—statements that are entirely inconsistent with the spirit of brotherhood between Turkey and Azerbaijan. We demand an immediate end to these baseless slanders.

It must be remembered that the unity and brotherhood among Turkic states—which we have aspired to for centuries—the establishment of the Organization of Turkic States (OTS), the frequent meetings between heads of state, and the adoption of significant decisions and implementation of projects for the future and development of the Turkic world are sources of great joy for us; at the same time, these developments are a cause for serious concern among the enemies of the Turkic people.

The brotherhood between Turkey and Azerbaijan has played a decisive role in the formation and strengthening of the OTS. Portraying Azerbaijan—under the pretext of introducing a unified school uniform in secondary schools—as an enemy of Islam or a country that violates religious freedoms is a distortion of reality. Such approaches not only risk cooling the relations between the two fraternal states but also [threaten] that which holds great value for us all...” ...serves to hinder the progress of the OTS (Organization of Turkic States). External forces attempting to fuel the conflict... ...this is precisely the hidden agenda of these very forces.

As poets and writers of the Turkic world—who view the rapprochement of our nations as a great opportunity and a blessing bestowed by history, who have dedicated our entire lives to this cause, and who deeply grasp the responsibilities that come with this unity—we hope that the leaders of the two fraternal states will address this matter, and that an end will be put to the harmful content circulating on social media.
This is the wish of the common people and of us, the intellectuals!

May the unity and brotherhood of the Turkic peoples and states be eternal!

 

[Yasar_TR]

Please stop blaming Turkiye or Azerbaijan.
It was clearly stated that this issue needs to be put to bed in an amicable manner.
No more you did this, we did this!
Please do not test the administration’s patience any more.

 

[Lool]

There are reports that after Israel's president visited Aliyev, pro-Aliyev news sites are reporting that Hakan Fidan is plotting a coup attempt against Aliyev

 

[Polat]

There are reports that after Israel's president visited Aliyev, pro-Aliyev news sites are reporting that Hakan Fidan is plotting a coup attempt against Aliyev

Honestly I seriously don't understand what happened behind closed doors for the situation to get to this situation. Or basically Azerbaijan wanting to totally redo their old diplomatic strategy.

 

[Iskander]

Honestly I seriously don't understand what happened behind closed doors for the situation to get to this situation. Or basically Azerbaijan wanting to totally redo their old diplomatic strategy.

Here is a detailed article about this on an Armenian website (it can also be read in English there).

Weiterleitungshinweis

Perhaps the Armenians will act as intermediaries between us🫢

 

[GoatsMilk]

Here is a detailed article about this on an Armenian website (it can also be read in English there).

Weiterleitungshinweis

Perhaps the Armenians will act as intermediaries between us🫢

There was a time when out of nowhere iran started threatening Turkiye and Erdogan started threatening Iran. It came out of nowhere and the talk was almost warlike. Anyone years later the americans found out that Turkiye during this period was basically set up halk bank to allow the iranians to circumvent their sanctions.

If erdogan can play this little game with iran, he sure as hell can organise a better one with Aliyev.

Azerbaijan needs ties with Isreal as a political hedge against the EU, Russia and Iran. Isrealis naturally would be weary of Azerbaijan because of Turkiye in Syria. So why not stage a "rift" to help Azerbaijan fool the international zionist order. As for erdogan he's presenting himself as the Islamist, his voters cannot understand how we can be so good with Azerbaijan while they have great ties with Isreal. So you pull a little stunt and both sides benefit.

Materially nothing changes.

 

[Iskander]

Erdogan congratulates Azerbaijan on Independence Day​

The congratulatory message states:

"On behalf of my country and my people, I wholeheartedly congratulate the Restoration of Independence Day of friendly and fraternal Azerbaijan.
I extend my greetings to the President of Azerbaijan, my brother Ilham Aliyev, and to my Azerbaijani Turkic brothers and sisters, with whom we have always stood together—in both times of sorrow and times of joy."

 

[Sanchez]

I refrained from largely commenting on this matter.

But we cannot put our heads into the sand and act like there's nothing happening. This has nothing to do with internal politics, hijab or political islamism.

qafqazinfo is indirectly owned and directly supported by Aliyev's inner circle. Last oped by these guys is worded in a way to elicit the worst possible reactions and created in a way to strike at every single contention between the two countries in the last 100 years. Directly name dropping Atatürk, Enver Paşa and Nuri Paşa is there to make this whole charade indefensible by a Turkish citizen regardless of their political or religious views.

Hopefully in time we will be rid of both Erdogan government and the Aliyev's dictatorship. But this is not an internal politics matter, this is Azerbaijan picking a side in the Israeli Turkish showoff by creating multiple axes to strike at at the same time.

How was Yerevan erased from our map with the "Brother Trap"?​

https://qafqazinfo.az/news/detail/qardas-telesi-ile-irevan-xeritemizden-nece-silindi-525398

 

[2033]

I refrained from largely commenting on this matter.

But we cannot put our heads into the sand and act like there's nothing happening. This has nothing to do with internal politics, hijab or political islamism.

qafqazinfo is indirectly owned and directly supported by Aliyev's inner circle. Last oped by these guys is worded in a way to elicit the worst possible reactions and created in a way to strike at every single contention between the two countries in the last 100 years. Directly name dropping Atatürk, Enver Paşa and Nuri Paşa is there to make this whole charade indefensible by a Turkish citizen regardless of their political or religious views.

Hopefully in time we will be rid of both Erdogan government and the Aliyev's dictatorship. But this is not an internal politics matter, this is Azerbaijan picking a side in the Israeli Turkish showoff by creating multiple axes to strike at at the same time.

How was Yerevan erased from our map with the "Brother Trap"?​

https://qafqazinfo.az/news/detail/qardas-telesi-ile-irevan-xeritemizden-nece-silindi-525398

Just the other day, they ran a story claiming, “Hakan Fidan is plotting a coup against Aliyev.” I think they’ve written Turkey off. From now on, we need to reevaluate arms sales to Azerbaijan.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

Qafqazinfo is like Azerbaijan's version of Yeni Akit. It's pro-gov, but also sensationalist and infiltrated with fifth column writers. Don't fall for their games. And I'm not defending them in any way, Yeni Akit and Qafqazinfo are detrimental to their own nations.

AZERTAC is the only reliable source.

I refrained from largely commenting on this matter.

But we cannot put our heads into the sand and act like there's nothing happening. This has nothing to do with internal politics, hijab or political islamism.

qafqazinfo is indirectly owned and directly supported by Aliyev's inner circle. Last oped by these guys is worded in a way to elicit the worst possible reactions and created in a way to strike at every single contention between the two countries in the last 100 years. Directly name dropping Atatürk, Enver Paşa and Nuri Paşa is there to make this whole charade indefensible by a Turkish citizen regardless of their political or religious views.

Hopefully in time we will be rid of both Erdogan government and the Aliyev's dictatorship. But this is not an internal politics matter, this is Azerbaijan picking a side in the Israeli Turkish showoff by creating multiple axes to strike at at the same time.

How was Yerevan erased from our map with the "Brother Trap"?​

https://qafqazinfo.az/news/detail/qardas-telesi-ile-irevan-xeritemizden-nece-silindi-525398

Just the other day, they ran a story claiming, “Hakan Fidan is plotting a coup against Aliyev.” I think they’ve written Turkey off. From now on, we need to reevaluate arms sales to Azerbaijan.

 

[Iskander]

Just the other day, they ran a story claiming, “Hakan Fidan is plotting a coup against Aliyev.”

So, did Hakan Fidan suddenly have a change of heart—given that he offered his congratulations to Azerbaijan even before Erdogan did?
One shouldn’t believe everything that appears in articles.

I think they’ve written Turkey off.

Thinking is a useful exercise . Writing without thinking, however, can sometimes lead to rather unpleasant consequences. Take the journalist Celal Çiftçi, for instance: he wrote something completely ill-considered—a call for a coup d'état. Baku immediately initiated criminal proceedings against him and issued an arrest warrant. By the very next day, Çiftçi had publicly apologized to Azerbaijan.

From now on, we need to reevaluate arms sales to Azerbaijan.

I share this view. Given the extremely complex international situation, we should increase our arms imports from Turkey. For example, instead of 24 KAAN aircraft, I would purchase 48.
(Unlike you, I didn't just reach this conclusion yesterday—I realized this back in the last century)

 

[Pete Mitchell Maverick]

I see people who believe that the Azerbaijani media is independent, impartial, and capable of producing its own analysis. Dear friends, when it comes to both domestic and international affairs, no news can be published in the Azerbaijani media without government approval. In other words, all these media outlets are under the control of the Aliyev regime.

If there is an attack against the Turkish government, going as far as targeting Atatürk himself, it is simply impossible for such an attack to take place without Aliyev's knowledge and approval.

Anyone who has been to Azerbaijan, done business there, or worked there knows that Azerbaijan is a genuine dictatorship. The Azerbaijani people are, of course, our brothers and sisters, but the Aliyev regime has effectively seized control of the country's entire wealth and resources, with the media being one of its most important instruments of control.

If Turkey is being attacked in this manner, it means that the Aliyev regime is deliberately undermining its relations with Turkey and has effectively fallen under Israel's influence.

While I respect analyses made in good faith, I disagree with many of them.

For Azerbaijan to disregard all the support Turkey provided in the liberation of Karabakh, claiming that weapons were merely purchased with money and that everything else was accomplished entirely by Azerbaijan itself, is nothing short of blatant ingratitude.