Yeah bro keep dreaming we don't even mass produced TF600 but surely we could make a fifth gen engine maybe stop watching TRT or A-haber.
*Korea, India are far behind of Türkiye in engine area. Even their engine project targets aren't close to top of the line GE-F110 that we have mastered.*
This part made me laugh India was building several engines while we were struggling with TS1400 and that is a turboshaft engine not even a jet engine.
We turks have this delusion that KAAN will beat F35 or other proven jets KAAN will enter service in probably 2035 with foreign engines.
Also making an F110 engine doesn't qualift that tr motor could made fifth gen engine in 5 years even superpowers had problems and they weren't embargoed like us.
F110 IS A FOURTH GEN ENGINE MAN AMOUNT OF MISINFORMATION AND DELUSION THIS GUY IS WRITING KILLING ME
@Nilgiri could you give him a lesson about Indian engine programs he seems ignorant
There is thread for Indian engines for discussion/analysis...better place for any interested members so we don't go off topic in this thread.
Indigenous kaveri derivative for Ghatak UCAV!
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I generally judge on deliverables. There is lot of things up in the air, and many laypeople often prefer to use "unprecedented" "we will do everything" "our engineers are tier A+++" etc by whichever selective filter they use on the topic.... i.e some asserted exceptionalism while development is ongoing.
Whereas objective reality can only be measured by what you deliver in the end, that takes time to gauge.
The contexts are different too w.r.t how Turkiye uses its NATO ecosystem (which India, China are not part of though countries like South Korea and India increasingly have their own specific one they are developing with US).
This is reason why non-NATO countries have often been more reliant on Soviet/Russian/Ukrainian, and to some degree France as well for their R&D ecosystem development in gas turbines/jet engines like India has been w.r.t Russian licensed engine production at HAL Koraput and French licensed engine production (turboshaft shakti engine).
Leveraging these with the local program (Kaveri engine in India's case) depends on dedicated funding, program priority and economy of scale (for example why China has delivered more than India in their respective route maps so far in this field).
Though there is now recent positive news on a hard deliverable w.r.t Kaveri in that it will be integrated soon on a Tejas test bed, though likely its final use will be in the stealth drone program as the hard numbers (it has been able to deliver) and time pressure, HR priority etc involved makes cooperation with GE and Safran more viable choice for the next production series of powerplants for Indian combat aircraft.
It is very different story to Turkish context in the end....for example HAL Koraput equivalent in Turkish ecosystem case involved GE mostly (given combat aircraft in TurAF), not Russia.
The very same assertions I have seen w.r.t Koraput (we have this ability, so it automatically means end-end production ability of another engine, Kaveri should have been more Russia basis rather than GE American etc etc), I see from some members here w.r.t GE. i.e huge assumptions which may or may not pan out (Rodeo mentions some reasons why).
But that all remains to be seen by deliverables, period....as in the end there are lot of things in play that are not guaranteed (people can search my replies in just this thread, not interested in rehashing them again - I forgot if it was in here I mentioned the issue of just bearings R&D and QC for example).
So I prefer to follow hard output deliverables past promises, speculation, exceptionalism and everything else that I have seen happen when any country is on "catch up" mode with its own program on something (seen this with for examply my following of Chinese and Indian programs). Its somewhat natural to have that, but really what you deliver in end is the only final proof.
Till then I prefer to get into answering specific queries on specific issues as possible where I may be of some help to explaining to others.
The generalised entire program is matter of many more moving parts and can be subject to more emotionalism (from those sitting outside) in end, its not my cup of tea.
