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I am out of touch. What happened to the initiative 2/3 years ago where they were building 50k home in Syria and 500k already returned to settle? More were supposed to follow, no?

Doesn't seem like it went anywhere because of the security situation
 

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Looks like the European right-wing has woken up. They'll finally clean up the mess in their own countries. Once they're done and the good times are back, perhaps the left will return.

I wonder, is AKP ready to take in millions more? They show no indication of wanting to stop the flow. The end goal is to ruin our demographics. Looks like FETÖ is still active and they call the shots.

Iran and PKK are working together. Meanwhile the USA helped PKK/YPG empty northern Syria. Now we are giving citizenship to Syrians to facilitate their project.

I'm sorry to say but this country's government needs to be purged. It's an absolute shitshow. How can we continue to ignore the elephant in the room.

It’s unfortunate but we must acknowledge that in the last election, people voted, and AKP won. Yes the silent invasion is fuc**ng this country so bad, but still people voted and here we are. So not only we should blame the politicians, but also us (the citizen). We are also responsible as much as the politicians for letting this invasion happen in the first place. But yes, otherwise I agree with you that the current government need to be kicked out. And putting them in jail for treason would be the cherry on the cake.
 

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Word's of AKP's spokesman:

"The performance of the far right, radical right and populist socialist parties in the European Parliament elections unfortunately shows that Europe is facing some new challenges regarding hostility towards Turkey and hostility towards Islam. In this context, increasing cooperation within Turkey will be extremely important in terms of sending a strong message against these far-right parties. Our esteemed President expressed their sensitivity for the parties in Turkey to act together against this emerging fascist wave."



Yes mate. Europe is fascist now. Türkiye should let in 10 million more of its Muslim brothers and sisters 🇦🇫🕋

It's clear that these statements are his attempt to justify hosting 13 million invaders. Of course under the pretext of Islam.

Seriously though, if you still support this government I question your intentions. It's clear that FETÖ is still active in the highest echelons. Yes DefenceHub is neutral, but I can no longer hide my discontent with AKP's utter treason. I'll say it again, this government needs to be purged.
 
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Word's of AKP's spokesman:

"The performance of the far right, radical right and populist socialist parties in the European Parliament elections unfortunately shows that Europe is facing some new challenges regarding hostility towards Turkey and hostility towards Islam. In this context, increasing cooperation within Turkey will be extremely important in terms of sending a strong message against these far-right parties. Our esteemed President expressed their sensitivity for the parties in Turkey to act together against this emerging fascist wave."



Yes mate. Europe is fascist now. Türkiye should let in 10 million more of its Muslim brothers and sisters 🇦🇫🕋

It's clear that these statements are his attempt to justify hosting 13 million invaders. Of course under the pretext of Islam.

Seriously though, if you still support this government I question your intentions. It's clear that FETÖ is still active in the highest echelons. Yes DefenceHub is neutral, but I can no longer hide my discontent with AKP's utter treason. I'll say it again, this government needs to be purged.
There's no neutrality when it comes to concerns about Turkiye's national security.

I would be concerned about the intentions of a Turk if he is neutral on these issues.
 

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There's no neutrality when it comes to concerns about Turkiye's national security.

I would be concerned about the intentions of a Turk if he is neutral on these issues.

I think he meant defencehub as a platform is supposed to be neutral, not the Turkish members.
 

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Looks like the European right-wing has woken up. They'll finally clean up the mess in their own countries. Once they're done and the good times are back, perhaps the left will return.

I wonder, is AKP ready to take in millions more? They show no indication of wanting to stop the flow. The end goal is to ruin our demographics. Looks like FETÖ is still active and they call the shots.

Iran and PKK are working together. Meanwhile the USA helped PKK/YPG empty northern Syria. Now we are giving citizenship to Syrians to facilitate their project.

I'm sorry to say but this country's government needs to be purged. It's an absolute shitshow. How can we continue to ignore the elephant in the room.

Turkiye has a chance in formenting civil war in Europe.

Europe constantly played the pkk and refugee card against Turkiye.

Turkiye needs to stop being security guard of europe. Let that eu money burn.
 

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Word's of AKP's spokesman:

"The performance of the far right, radical right and populist socialist parties in the European Parliament elections unfortunately shows that Europe is facing some new challenges regarding hostility towards Turkey and hostility towards Islam. In this context, increasing cooperation within Turkey will be extremely important in terms of sending a strong message against these far-right parties. Our esteemed President expressed their sensitivity for the parties in Turkey to act together against this emerging fascist wave."



Yes mate. Europe is fascist now. Türkiye should let in 10 million more of its Muslim brothers and sisters 🇦🇫🕋

It's clear that these statements are his attempt to justify hosting 13 million invaders. Of course under the pretext of Islam.

Seriously though, if you still support this government I question your intentions. It's clear that FETÖ is still active in the highest echelons. Yes DefenceHub is neutral, but I can no longer hide my discontent with AKP's utter treason. I'll say it again, this government needs to be purged.
Holly shit 13 million ?? That's a whole country living in another country 😮
 

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Holly shit 13 million ?? That's a whole country living in another country 😮
It's a debatable number, but the government refuses to audit the numbers of illegals, so noone really knows. Syrians are at least 4 million, and others are easily another 4. Another 4 to 5 million live in Idlib and other areas under Turkish control, former interior minister (the bald one) said Turkey takes care of 9 million Syrians in and out of country.

When you add the numbers together, you get about 13 million non-citizens dependent on the Turkish republic. Their healthcare, employment and infrastructure all handled by and paid for Turkey. And they lecture us about how we are racist monsters. A typical european society would devolve into a nazi regime by now.

This has to stop or we will have a bloodbath in our hands in no later than, say, 15 years or so.
 

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It's a debatable number, but the government refuses to audit the numbers of illegals, so noone really knows. Syrians are at least 4 million, and others are easily another 4. Another 4 to 5 million live in Idlib and other areas under Turkish control, former interior minister (the bald one) said Turkey takes care of 9 million Syrians in and out of country.

When you add the numbers together, you get about 13 million non-citizens dependent on the Turkish republic. Their healthcare, employment and infrastructure all handled by and paid for Turkey. And they lecture us about how we are racist monsters. A typical european society would devolve into a nazi regime by now.

This has to stop or we will have a bloodbath in our hands in no later than, say, 15 years or so.
That's alot for turkey. Most of them are Syrians . I completely understand. In my country too, their numbers began to increase and they began to buy real estate and control the markets And they raise the prices . They ruined their country and went to cry to the rest of the world. They're really annoying
 

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That's alot for turkey. Most of them are Syrians . I completely understand. In my country too, their numbers began to increase and they began to buy real estate and control the markets And they raise the prices . They ruined their country and went to cry to the rest of the world. They're really annoying

The Syrians would have got rid of Assad by now instead spent time fighting each other like clowns.

Even after they rid of assad it will be another civil war with Muslims vs Christians vs Alawites. Islamists vs Syrian Baathists vs Secularists vs Liberals vs Pan Arabists.

After Assad is gone it will be another dictatorship.

You cant win in these regions like the Middle East and the Balkans.

Turkiye's geography is a blessing and a fcking curse.

Jewish and and the Iranian refugees are one of the worst. They constantly bad mouth Turkiye then live perfectly fine in Istanbul.

Then you got luxury refugees in Antalya like the Russians and Ukrainians. Then add in The Syrians, Afghans and the Pakistanis.

Rich Gulf Arabs are buying land with inflated prices.

Its a powder keg. I dont live in Turkiye but I think people who live there know how bad it is has become with the open borders scheme.

No country can survive millions of mass migrations. Its only going to get worse with climate change, wars, civil wars along with economic hardships in numerous countries.
 
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Turkiye has a chance in formenting civil war in Europe.
yeah now its Europe who is formenting civil war in turkey thanks to those with din qardaşlar mentality 13 million kaçak of whom 2 million of them participate in wars and professional killers with +20 million kaçak guns in turkey dont surprise if they fire RPG in middle of Istanbul
 

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It's a debatable number, but the government refuses to audit the numbers of illegals, so noone really knows. Syrians are at least 4 million, and others are easily another 4. Another 4 to 5 million live in Idlib and other areas under Turkish control, former interior minister (the bald one) said Turkey takes care of 9 million Syrians in and out of country.

When you add the numbers together, you get about 13 million non-citizens dependent on the Turkish republic. Their healthcare, employment and infrastructure all handled by and paid for Turkey. And they lecture us about how we are racist monsters. A typical european society would devolve into a nazi regime by now.

This has to stop or we will have a bloodbath in our hands in no later than, say, 15 years or so.
7 million Syrians 3 million under temporary protection which btw is expired since 2015 + 4 millon illegal aliens + 2 million Africans who use no visa opportunity to come turkey and now after 90 days of residency ( were they expire their stay ) wont leave. 2 million afghan include the whole professional army that Americans trained ( which is a ticking bomb) as well as al-Qaida, ISIS and Taliban drug lords other 2 millions are other ethnic groups including 700k Iraqis 700k Iranians and unknown number of Pakistanis whom were encourage to do hijrat to turkey via tarikat mosques in Pakistan and these are the kaça ones. if you want to include the number of foreign who live in turkey legally then the number would probably pass 20 millions this includes the students who have residency people who gain their citizenship via buying house those who married to Turkish citizens ( some time by tarikat encouragement) etc . since 2002 AKP government gave citizenship to 8 million people but they never said when did these 8 million exactly gain their citizenship my suspicion is that the majority received it after 2012 Syrian civil war

so yeah we are in deep trouble no wonder the next constitution referendum will remove turkishness from constitution because when you have so many none turks who are racist toward turks and wont assimilate may cause them feel unwelcomed. islamist wanted this since the time of Erbakan. they ae living their fantasy of ummate muhammadiya while they will be dead in next 10 years we will be the one who have to live with the shit they left behind
 
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The religion within a Turkish context is really about pushing cultural marxism onto the people. In some aspects they have to pretend they are against its ideals like LGBTQ rights but on the other hand it allows them to be more aggressive.

In Turkey for example the religion opened Turks up to accepting countless millions of refugees that wouldn't be tolerated in say a country like Poland. In a Turkish context the religion is used to shame the people who dont help the countless beggars who fled the scene their own turmoil instead of dealing with it.

For example there are many reasons why the left/cultural marxists/socialists flood a nation with migrants. Now I'm not attacking migrants here, they are just a much a victim in all of this as anyone else is outside the ruling classes. Flood a country with migrants and you will enlarge the welfare state. These people who have fled war or poverty as is say the case with Afghans, will find a social welfare state much better then what they came from. These people are also votes for socialism.

Another major reason for flooding a country with migrants, it allows the state to break down and destroy national and ethnic conscience. Because nationalists/patriots are the core component who will resist such changes. So if you can flood the country with enough migrants you can weaken the strength of that bloc in a "democracy". Once you got enough voters you can destroy and attack the constitution of a given state. For example AK party and their insistence of removing "Turk" from the constitution. The long term goal if these sorts of people succeed will be that to identity as a Turk will be no different then identifying as nazi or extremist. A similar thing is taking place here in england, where they are trying to tell people flying the English flag is racist and hateful.

Socialists, cultural marxists also need to create as many victim classes as possible. The more victims they create, the more people that will come to depend on the state. This is partly why such massive polarization has taken place under Erdogan/AK party. This is also partly the reason he goes to the south east and tells Kurds that the republic is bad and Ataturk is bad. By brainwashing Kurds that they are eternal victims, it also leads to things where in europe PKK supporting Kurds are actively looking out for Turkish communities to go and attack them and destroy their businesses.

To keep a long story short, by the end of world war one the entire world was pretty much conquered by euro origin peoples. The entire international system that exists today was created and still dominated by them. The Turks despite being crushed in world war one were unconquerable. The western finance that dominates international socialist agenda, who see's cultural marxism as a way of destroying any potential competition arising, understand that the Turk couldn't be conquered by an invading army. So they changed track, conquer the nation from within. Things like Feto are just one leg of that agenda against the Turkish state.

If the people of the nation don't wake up, maybe their gran children will wake up in an overtly occupied nation. In a similar way to how we look at gulf monarchies knowing they are western puppets. Difference is the Turk will be oppressed and persecuted within his own nation.
Couldn't have put it better myself. This could be one of the best posts in this forum of all time.
 

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7 million Syrians 3 million under temporary protection which btw is expired since 2015 + 4 millon illegal aliens + 2 million Africans who use no visa opportunity to come turkey and now after 90 days of residency ( were they expire their stay ) wont leave. 2 million afghan include the whole professional army that Americans trained ( which is a ticking bomb) as well as al-Qaida, ISIS and Taliban drug lords other 2 millions are other ethnic groups including 700k Iraqis 700k Iranians and unknown number of Pakistanis whom were encourage to do hijrat to turkey via tarikat mosques in Pakistan and these are the kaça ones. if you want to include the number of foreign who live in turkey legally then the number would probably pass 20 millions this includes the students who have residency people who gain their citizenship via buying house those who married to Turkish citizens ( some time by tarikat encouragement) etc . since 2002 AKP government gave citizenship to 8 million people but they never said when did these 8 million exactly gain their citizenship my suspicion is that the majority received it after 2012 Syrian civil war

so yeah we are in deep trouble no wonder the next constitution referendum will remove turkishness from constitution because when you have so many none turks who are racist toward turks and wont assimilate may cause them feel unwelcomed. islamist wanted this since the time of Erbakan. they ae living their fantasy of ummate muhammadiya while they will be dead in next 10 years we will be the one who have to live with the shit they left behind
Could you please provide your source for these numbers?
 

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Could you please provide your source for these numbers?
There's just under 4 million Syrians who were granted legal temporary protection status. Every family has been pumping out babies despite their situation... Then there are all the Afghans, Syrians, Iraqis, Pakistanis, etc. who crossed the border and are living in Türkiye illegally. Everyday there are videos emerging of hundreds of Afghans entering from the Iranian border. There's also those who fly to Türkiye and don't leave within 90 days... Then there are the hundreds of thousands who have received citizenship.

The number easily surpasses 7 million.

The UN only counts the Syrians that have been officially counted by the government.

Because so many people have been breaking through the border, we don't have an official number. But it's much, much higher than what AKP or the UN claim.
 

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Does anyone think that with all the refugees and illegal immigrants in the country the problems with gang issue will increase ?


Illegal people joining illegal gangs for survival and such ?
 

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Does anyone think that with all the refugees and illegal immigrants in the country the problems with gang issue will increase ?


Illegal people joining illegal gangs for survival and such ?
Gangs are predominantly a Kurdish thing. They have large families, political connections, familiar with how the law works, have international connections.
 

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sorry, mate, but I don't agree. That's a Clan thing, not gang.
 

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Word's of AKP's spokesman:

"The performance of the far right, radical right and populist socialist parties in the European Parliament elections unfortunately shows that Europe is facing some new challenges regarding hostility towards Turkey and hostility towards Islam. In this context, increasing cooperation within Turkey will be extremely important in terms of sending a strong message against these far-right parties. Our esteemed President expressed their sensitivity for the parties in Turkey to act together against this emerging fascist wave."



Yes mate. Europe is fascist now. Türkiye should let in 10 million more of its Muslim brothers and sisters 🇦🇫🕋

It's clear that these statements are his attempt to justify hosting 13 million invaders. Of course under the pretext of Islam.

Seriously though, if you still support this government I question your intentions. It's clear that FETÖ is still active in the highest echelons. Yes DefenceHub is neutral, but I can no longer hide my discontent with AKP's utter treason. I'll say it again, this government needs to be purged.
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