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Turkey’s first battery storage system for the grid ‘could drive faster renewables adoption’​


The first battery energy storage system deployed to help stabilise the electricity grid in Turkey could help show the country’s energy sector that more rapid uptake of renewable energy can be feasible and cost-effective.
Scotland-headquartered multinational power solutions company Aggreko has recently completed work on a project in the north of Turkey, installing a 500kW / 500kWh lithium-ion battery storage system near a substation which will help local grid infrastructure near the town of Alaca to deliver reliable electricity, smoothing out peaks in supply and demand.
Karim Wazni, managing director of Aggreko Microgrid and Storage Solutions, told Energy-Storage.news that the “first of its kind” project for Turkey was “particularly exciting,” not only as it could help prove the business case for the wider rollout of battery storage in the country to support the reliability of existing grid infrastructure, but also because it could show what is possible in terms of using batteries to integrate higher shares of renewable energy.
Firstly, the battery project should prove valuable to the local network and allow grid operators to defer the need to carry out infrastructure upgrades. Therefore, while already offering an economic benefit, Karim Wazni said that this use of batteries then “becomes increasingly important with the growing share of renewable sources in the coming years, allowing consistency of energy supply for an inherently intermittent form of generation”.
Turkey has been relatively slow to adopt solar PV, Wazni pointed out, with only about 4% of the country’s energy mix supplied through that source, but Aggreko anticipates that the use of energy storage “will encourage providers to make the move to increased adoption,” he said.
As with the news last week that distribution grid company Tata Power DDL inaugurated the first community battery energy storage system for the grid in India, the project in northern Turkey is relatively small by the standards of large-scale battery projects now going ahead in other countries.
But it could nonetheless be a reliable proof point of the technology’s capabilities. Turkey’s regulators are currently making provisions to allow batteries and other storage to play a wider role in the electricity system, having produced its first set of regulations early this year, but Aggreko appears to be first across the finish line to achieve deployment of a project connected to the network.

Project and others demonstrate versatility and value of energy storage​


Aggreko’s battery storage solution deployed at the site is modular and could be expanded to support more storage, or reconfigured at “short notice” to directly support local renewable generation, while the system is effectively also moveable and could be redeployed to another site if the need is greater there, Wazni said. For the last couple of years Aggreko has also offered battery systems under a rental model, reducing the need for its customers to make long-term capital expenditure (CapEx) commitments.
“…the use of storage technology within existing grid infrastructure also allows for the greater uptake of clean and cheaper-than-ever renewable sources rather than fossil fuels by smoothing out any intermittent supply issues these may have,” Karim Wazni told Energy-Storage.news in an interview.
“We hope that by demonstrating how we can create more certainty around the stability of renewable energy, this will accelerate the deployment of renewables across the country and inspire others to consider integrating more storage with energy generation.”
“The project in Turkey demonstrates the value of storage solutions in supporting grid infrastructure to provide reliable power, as well as offering the stability for companies to increase their adoption of renewables - something we at Aggreko are committed to as part of our wider work to support the energy transition.”
Indeed, Aggreko recently committed to halving its local air quality impacting emissions and diesel use by 2030 and achieving net-zero emissions status by 2050. The company, perhaps better known for mobile generator solutions and powering large outdoor events such as the Olympic Games, bought into the battery storage sector when it acquired pioneering German-US company Younicos in 2017.
Having to get the Turkey project done during the COVID-19 pandemic presented the company with some challenges, according to the Aggreko business unit MD. That created some delays with the final stages of commissioning and installation, but a service network and operational partners based locally helped the international company to mitigate the impacts of its team not being able to travel to the site and so on.
As with a number of other recent projects, Wazni said that the 500kW battery system in northern Turkey demonstrates the versatility of battery storage technology: Aggreko recently completed a microgrid including 2MW of rented battery storage at Granny Smith Gold Mine in Australia, hybridised a power plant in Argentina and has won a contract for a large-scale microgrid in Chile including 9.9MW of solar and 16MW of storage at another mining operation.
“All of these projects, and the increasing demand for storage solutions, shows the solid business case for this kind of work,” Karim Wazni said.
Watch a previous July 2019 video interview with Karim Wazni below, in which the Aggreko Microgrid and Storage Solutions managing director discusses the commercial, societal and technological drivers for the battery storage industry in areas including off-grid mining and large commercial and industrial solar integration.


Off-grid tech: Economically combining low-cost solar and batteries with Aggreko​

 

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Turkey's first floating solar power plant, developed with locally with local solar panels has been launched.

Not all videos are from Turkey, they are actually showing some examples for large scale deployment from abroad and concepts from abroad,
Yet the design she has proposed, based on welded steel bars and a floater, has broken off in Büyükçekmece lake within a few months. There is another company which has more promising, lego-like HDPE based flexible-joint solution and to be honest they are more promising.
 

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Next to energy we have a water problem.

We have a waterproblem because our men are stupid macho assholes who wash their simple standard ugly Fiat Linea's and Renault's 5 times a week with hundreds litres of fresh clean water at the parking lot.

They wash their cars for hours in a village/county without asfalt or hardened roads and the next day the car is AGAIN full of dust. And guess what? They wash it AGAIN.

I am now in Turkey since june 2020 and i never saw so many clean water wasted for such stupid reasons:

- freshing the doorsteps with water almost every day
-cleaning open balconies every day with water
-throwing water for several minutes at the concrete hallway at the frontdoor to 'fresh up'
-free drinkwater-fountains at every corner of the street were people fill their bottles because the water at home from the tap is full of chalk and not clean. Its not possible to close the watertaps when you are finished, so the water is just running 24/7.
-watertaps at the mosque fountains are also running 24/7 and couldn't closed
-open sewers with dirty water thats not renewable. The dirty water just run through the street of the villages and disappear.
 

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We have a waterproblem because our men are stupid macho assholes who wash their simple standard ugly Fiat Linea's and Renault's 5 times a week with hundreds litres of fresh clean water at the parking lot.

They wash their cars for hours in a village/county without asfalt or hardened roads and the next day the car is AGAIN full of dust. And guess what? They wash it AGAIN.

I am now in Turkey since june 2020 and i never saw so many clean water wasted for such stupid reasons:

- freshing the doorsteps with water almost every day
-cleaning open balconies every day with water
-throwing water for several minutes at the concrete hallway at the frontdoor to 'fresh up'
-free drinkwater-fountains at every corner of the street were people fill their bottles because the water at home from the tap is full of chalk and not clean. Its not possible to close the watertaps when you are finished, so the water is just running 24/7.
-watertaps at the mosque fountains are also running 24/7 and couldn't closed
-open sewers with dirty water thats not renewable. The dirty water just run through the street of the villages and disappear.

This is common issue worldwide in many places. Water is basically too cheap relative to its scarcity in many places.

It needs better pricing mechanism.

Definitely appropriate level users should not be punished, and must be given water cheap to some tier of consumption up to say X level of reasonable use for say a household.

For rest you need to ramp up the price drastically in "past reasonable" blocks as required. You have to get them in wallet bottom dollar line.

When stuff is very cheap or free (by subsidy) even if its relatively scarce and must be managed by common sense, people inevitably abuse it. You have to transfer the appropriate price that reflects the situation as much as you can.

When people have to cough up dough just like with everything else, they start to respect the commodity much more.
 

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We have a waterproblem because our men are stupid macho assholes who wash their simple standard ugly Fiat Linea's and Renault's 5 times a week with hundreds litres of fresh clean water at the parking lot.

They wash their cars for hours in a village/county without asfalt or hardened roads and the next day the car is AGAIN full of dust. And guess what? They wash it AGAIN.

I am now in Turkey since june 2020 and i never saw so many clean water wasted for such stupid reasons:

- freshing the doorsteps with water almost every day
-cleaning open balconies every day with water
-throwing water for several minutes at the concrete hallway at the frontdoor to 'fresh up'
-free drinkwater-fountains at every corner of the street were people fill their bottles because the water at home from the tap is full of chalk and not clean. Its not possible to close the watertaps when you are finished, so the water is just running 24/7.
-watertaps at the mosque fountains are also running 24/7 and couldn't closed
-open sewers with dirty water thats not renewable. The dirty water just run through the street of the villages and disappear.

I was in Turkey last week in the village of my grandparents. They turn on the garden hose in the morning to water the plants and turn it off at night. Lots of people have their own wells and think that the groundwater will be there forever.

Yet at the same time in 7 days I have witnessed that the water supply was cut twice and at least once so minimal that it was hardly no use.


There are trucks from the local government watering the streets to get the dust off roaming the streets.
 

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I was in Turkey last week in the village of my grandparents. They turn on the garden hose in the morning to water the plants and turn it off at night. Lots of people have their own wells and think that the groundwater will be there forever.

Yet at the same time in 7 days I have witnessed that the water supply was cut twice and at least once so minimal that it was hardly no use.


There are trucks from the local government watering the streets to get the dust off roaming the streets.
I imagine it may be done to cool the streets and prevent any cracks from appearing. But I am not sure.

I think all municipalities does that to some extent. But we're pretty much the same to some extent, we don't have enough awareness on water misuse.

I think limiting time spent in shower and electronic water faucets are the only way to prevent/safeguard misuse. And of course remove any external faucets to garden and such.

People should put up rainwater barrels to gather water for gardening and such, or use drip irrigation techniques.
 

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I was in Turkey last week in the village of my grandparents. They turn on the garden hose in the morning to water the plants and turn it off at night. Lots of people have their own wells and think that the groundwater will be there forever.

Yet at the same time in 7 days I have witnessed that the water supply was cut twice and at least once so minimal that it was hardly no use.


There are trucks from the local government watering the streets to get the dust off roaming the streets.

Unfortunately I made the same Observation.

Especially in the Anatolian Plateau where Rain is mostly absent people tend to Compensate with Ground water and the repercussion are severe.

> Agriculture is the branch where the most water is spend

"Konya is full of holes! Potholes appeared everywhere, reached 600 in 1 year"​


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"We need to work together with the citizens here. Many of these sinkholes occur in places we call plateaus, where animals and people are present. In the past , we used to see potholes in mountainous areas as interesting landforms. It has now become a threat to human life."

"The most pleasing event is that an accident that will cost human life does not occur. But this does not mean that an accident will not occur. There is also climate change. Some studies need to be carried out in order for our citizens to adapt to the changing climate conditions."

"At that time, underground water was not consumed much"

"50-60 years ago, we need to go back to where agricultural activities were carried out. At that time, groundwater was not consumed much. Only less water consuming plants were grown. Now many pastures have turned into agricultural areas."
 

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I remember maybe 20 years ago Israel signed a deal to buy 6 billion litres of drinkwater from Turkey.

Before Turkey could deliver the water, Israel finished and tested a de-salting-machine.

They were working on it for years; saltwater from the Mediterranean or Red Sea that could be unsalted with big machines so that you could drink it.

Israel tried to cancel the deal but Turkey resisted and held Israel to the contractual terms.

But i never heard anymore about that de-salt-machine. It was like Israel developed a time machine in those times, the media coverage and euphoria was so big then. But then it was over, never heard anything about it.
 

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I remember maybe 20 years ago Israel signed a deal to buy 6 billion litres of drinkwater from Turkey.

Before Turkey could deliver the water, Israel finished and tested a de-salting-machine.

They were working on it for years; saltwater from the Mediterranean or Red Sea that could be unsalted with big machines so that you could drink it.

Israel tried to cancel the deal but Turkey resisted and held Israel to the contractual terms.

But i never heard anymore about that de-salt-machine. It was like Israel developed a time machine in those times, the media coverage and euphoria was so big then. But then it was over, never heard anything about it.
 

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The whole country has to start thinking about tomorrow. The water question should actually be one of the most important topics in Turkey, no matter if politics, media and even in school education.

More fish, plant based proteins than red meat, more plant based milk (oat) than regular one (up to 70% less water for 1L) you don't have to switch fully to the herbivores mode but using this alternatives from time to time also helps to reduce water waste.

How about some shade balls for our water resvoirs to prevent evaporation and pollution? Never saw such things in Turkey.
Rainwater should collected, just couple months ago we had floods in some parts of the country because of rain.

We are blessed with water, but we have to use it carefully, create smart water management and not waste it unneccessary.
Oil and Gas is what everyone talks about but Water is life and in the future millions of people will migrate because of water problems. Therefore it has to be protected like a national treasure.

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