TR Sensors and Detector Programs

[manifesto]

https://wwwcdn.aselsan.com/api/file/ASELFLIR-350_ENG.pdf

What is Aselflir 350? Is this what is called CATS plus? Aselsan is really confusing.

 

[TheInsider]

Yes, it is CATS Plus.

 

[Oublious]

about the new Chip production facility in Gebze.

 

[Stuka]

A Quick Comparison between

ASELSAN CATS + CATS Plus + ASELFLIR 500

 

[DBdev]

I simply don't get it.

Do you know why they insist on using ancient 1080p daylight sensors. 4k/8k sensors are like 2 bucks at alibaba. You can order millions of them.

Why not use 8k? There are 30+ cell phones that can record video at 8K. Also there are 1000x zoom cameras what's up with super expensive military cameras with low resolution and just 30x zoom?

Here, you can almost see individual hills on the moon from 391.800km with a much cheaper Nikon P1000. Put that on a gimbal, stabilize it and fly at 65000 feet to see the entire country with just 1 HALE like Global Hawk. How hard is THAT?

Category:Mobile phones with 8K video recording - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[neosinan]

I simply don't get it.

Do you know why they insist on using ancient 1080p daylight sensors. 4k/8k sensors are like 2 bucks at alibaba. You can order millions of them.

Why not use 8k? There are 30+ cell phones that can record video at 8K. Also there are 1000x zoom cameras what's up with super expensive military cameras with low resolution and just 30x zoom?

Here, you can almost see individual hills on the moon from 391.800km with a much cheaper Nikon P1000. Put that on a gimbal, stabilize it and fly at 65000 feet to see the entire country with just 1 HALE like Global Hawk. How hard is THAT?

Category:Mobile phones with 8K video recording - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Because Megapixels are meaningless, What you need is higher quality sensor with high bandwidth that cover all of the visible light spectrum accurately. More information you get from sensor, it is better, as long as information is accurate. And 2$ sensors doesn't capture much information that is meaningful. Capture a video from your phone and watch that, and watch a movie from blu-ray. There is so much more information in high quality movie sensor Captures that your phone won't capture. Algorithms need information not Megapixels on spec sheet.

Yes, 125x optical zoom like in Nikon p1000 is commercially available if you don't have size constrain.

 

[DBdev]

Because Megapixels are meaningless, What you need is higher quality sensor with high bandwidth that cover all of the visible light spectrum accurately. More information you get from sensor, it is better, as long as information is accurate. And 2$ sensors doesn't capture much information that is meaningful. Capture a video from your phone and watch that, and watch a movie from blu-ray. There is so much more information in high quality movie sensor Captures that your phone won't capture. Algorithms need information not Megapixels on spec sheet.

Yes, 125x optical zoom like in Nikon p1000 is commercially available if you don't have size constrain.

I have an old 108 megapixel TINY sensor and even with that megapixels matter more than so called "quality", you need to 100% stabilize it with a great gimbal though. Without it it is more blurry than a stabilized big sensor RED camera obviously.

Pick highest state of the art commercial megapixel sensor and add whatever IR, NIR, UV filters with a tiny electric motor during flight. What's wrong with that, best professionals use filters all the time? Why do you need seperate 120p awful sensors?

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=+camera+NIR+filter+night

 

[Siper>MMU]

I have an old 108 megapixel TINY sensor and even with that megapixels matter more than so called "quality", you need to 100% stabilize it with a great gimbal though. Without it it is more blurry than a stabilized big sensor RED camera obviously.

Pick highest state of the art commercial megapixel sensor and add whatever IR, NIR, UV filters with a tiny electric motor during flight. What's wrong with that, best professionals use filters all the time? Why do you need seperate 120p awful sensors?

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=+camera+NIR+filter+night

Tiny sensors are worse. Bigger sensors are better. They can receive more light

 

[neosinan]

I have an old 108 megapixel TINY sensor and even with that megapixels matter more than so called "quality", you need to 100% stabilize it with a great gimbal though. Without it it is more blurry than a stabilized big sensor RED camera obviously.

Pick highest state of the art commercial megapixel sensor and add whatever IR, NIR, UV filters with a tiny electric motor during flight. What's wrong with that, best professionals use filters all the time? Why do you need seperate 120p awful sensors?

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=+camera+NIR+filter+night

Your phone's sensor is likely 8 or 10 bit. While those "big" sensors are likely 16 bit. So it captures 1024 time more data per Frame in same resolution. Even if you increase resolution 4 times. There is still 256 times difference between such sensors? Gotta?

 

[Oublious]

Everything about the new Chip production facility in Gebze.

 

[Kitra]

Because Megapixels are meaningless, What you need is higher quality sensor with high bandwidth that cover all of the visible light spectrum accurately. More information you get from sensor, it is better, as long as information is accurate. And 2$ sensors doesn't capture much information that is meaningful. Capture a video from your phone and watch that, and watch a movie from blu-ray. There is so much more information in high quality movie sensor Captures that your phone won't capture. Algorithms need information not Megapixels on spec sheet.

Yes, 125x optical zoom like in Nikon p1000 is commercially available if you don't have size constrain.

Others have pointed out the dynamic range of larger sensor size but the limited transmission rate at 150/300km distance probably has an influence on the sensor size. This will probably improve when we have a few thousand sats in low-earth-orbit. This is a work in planning right now.

 

[bisbis]

It has been stated before that KAAN will have a DAS-like system on it. Here's the full list of what sensor payloads KAAN will carry:

And you're not alone, pretty much nothing has been revealed about the FSS so far.

so what does this famous "FSS" stand for that nobody knows? I hope it's not some kind of Russian intelligence service.

 

[Radonsider]

so what does this famous "FSS" stand for that nobody knows? I hope it's not some kind of Russian intelligence service.

Full Spherical Sensing System. Main element (sensor) is the IRIS-300

 

[bisbis]

Also might be talking about the FSS system.

No, I didn't mention optical alert receivers. I commented on optical targeting systems.
For example;

 

[Strong AI]

"The PIRI-100 Infrared Search and Tracking System, which will play an active role in the self-defense of naval platforms, entered the inventory of the Turkish Naval Forces for the first time, together with the TCG ANADOLU Multi-Purpose Amphibious Assault Ship."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1658829049169313794

 

[Afif]

New contract for Early Warning Radar (EIRS)​

News Center17 May 2023
1 minute reading time

ASELSAN signed a new contract for the Early Warning Radar System (EIRS). The total value of the fixed EIRS contract is approximately 1 billion liras.
A contract of 500,801,109 TL and 27,029,473 USD was signed between ASELSAN and the Presidency of Defense Industries for Fixed Early Warning Radar. Deliveries under the contract will take place between 2026 and 2027.

Fixed EIRS radars will be delivered to the Turkish Air Force. These radars will replace the existing French made radars in use. On the other hand, the Portable Early Warning Radar System (TEIRS) was developed for air defense systems and mobile units.

Early Warning Radar System (EIRS)​

EIRS is a new generation S-Band radar developed for long range early warning purposes, with antenna architecture in AESA and digital beamforming infrastructure. AESA and digital beamforming architecture that provides long-range detection and tracking of EIRS air-breathing air targets as well as Ballistic Missiles and stealth/low RKA (Stealth) targets (F-35, Su-57, F-22, B2) It is a radar system that has the ability to create more than one beam at the same time, thanks to its multi-channel receiver structure.

The system features data fusion with other EIRS and transferring trace information for target handover, which is especially critical for ballistic missile defense. To support the operational modes of the radar, the long-range Mode 5 IFF interrogator is integrated with a high-gain IFF antenna. EIRS's AESA architecture and modular design approach support the concepts of low cost of maintenance and high availability.

EIRS Project has 2 configurations: Portable EIRS (TEIRS) and Fixed EIRS (SEIRS). In the first phase, four Portable Early Warning Radar Systems (TEIRS) will be procured, and 18 Fixed Early Warning Radar (SEIRS) orders will be placed in the following stages.

Operational and Tactical Features

• Belt Type: S-Band
• Range: 450km +
• Transport by 10 Ton Class Tactical Wheeled Vehicles
• Transportable by C130/A400M
• 24/7 Operation
• 30 Minutes Installation and Assembly Time
• Special Algorithms Against the Negative Effects of Wind Power Plants

Detectable Target Types:

• Air-Air and Air-Ground Missiles
• Navigational Missiles
• Ballistic Missiles
• Anti-Radiation Weapons
• Low RKA (Stealth) Aircraft and UAVs
• Helicopters etc.

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Source: @SavunmaSanayiST.com

 

[Baryshx]

According to the information shared by ASELSAN Deputy General Manager Dr. Mustafa AKKUL in his presentation at the 4th Military Radar and Border Security Summit:

• YENER (Ground Penetrating Radar), SERHAT DUAL (Mortar Locating Radar), KARACA, İLKER, AESA SAR POD, KALKAN-1 TWTA (Travelling Wave Tube Array) 2023
• HÜRJET AESA Radar 2024
• KAMA (Active Protection System), AURA (AESA Drone Detection Radar), METRAD-2 (X-Band Doppler Polarimetric Weather Radar), SMR (Surface Movement Radar?), DGR 2024
• AKBABA 2024
• HİSAR-D 2024
• SİPER UMRAB (Long Range Radar Seeker Head), ALPER-II (Aselsan Low Power ECCM Radar), Mid Range SIR, Mobile Radar/Tower 2025, Drone FOBRAD (Forest Surveillance Radar)
• KAAN MMU Nasal Radar 2026
• GÖKHAN DG 2026
• PARS (Passive Radar Systems), SEİRS (Fixed Early Warning Radar System), FULMAR, National Hybrid Air Defense System, METRAD C, Semi-active Seeker Head 2026
• Drone-integrated GPR, UAV Early Warning and Aircraft Early Warning Radars in 2027
• ARDA, HYBRID RF-IIR Seeker Head, Orbit Tracking Radar 2027
• SİPER Ballistic Interceptor 2028
• YİRAD (High Altitude Radar?) 2028
• VHF Early Warning Radar 2029
• Satellite Early Warning, Swarm UAV Mounted Radars 2030
• ÇAFRAD Phase-2 and GÖKTÜRK-III SAR Radars will be delivered in 2030.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1659543519982231552

 

[Strong AI]

"There is no limit to communication for GEZGİN!
Since 2021, GEZGİN Mobile Vehicle Satellite Communication Terminals have been providing users with secure and high-speed satellite communication on the move, in all operational conditions. ASELSAN produced it indigenously and nationally."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1661038621040705537

 

[Heartbang]

"There is no limit to communication for GEZGİN!
Since 2021, GEZGİN Mobile Vehicle Satellite Communication Terminals have been providing users with secure and high-speed satellite communication on the move, in all operational conditions. ASELSAN produced it indigenously and nationally."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1661038621040705537

Naming of these things have started to be an issue.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1661311643488272384

Within the scope of the contract signed with ASELSAN and Baykar Makine, Electro Optical System delivery amounting to TL 346,800,285 will be realized. Deliveries will be made in 2023-2024.