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"rojava is inclusive and democratic, everbody is friends here we are all one family, arabs make up the majority of our forces" 🤡

mfs are revolting with fucking gardening tools against the ypg, but sure bud these people sure loved to be ruled by a bunch of drug trafficking human trafficking junkies who don't even believe in god.
 

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It is an unbelievably large number
I downplayed the hundred thousand in Sednaya number yesterday but reading the new stuff that came about, it might actually be closer to the original claims. Horrible, horrible stuff. Words can't start to describe it.

While some other countries are spreading fantasy about intervening in favor of the pkk TSK is bombing targets in northern Syria.
That's like a tuesday. Hoping to see a SNA push to Raqqa and a TSK update on the BPH region. Now is the time before idiotic ideas can start to forment in someone's minds. There were plenty of calls yesterday from both UK and US, pretty sure to specifically stop this soon-to-be reality.
 

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Assad Must Face Justice for His Government’s Atrocities​


With the Syrian leader now on the run, the prospect of bringing him to justice for his crimes is no longer theoretical.​


By Annie Sparrow, a practicing clinician in war zones and an associate professor at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai in New York, and Kenneth Roth, a visiting professor at Princeton University’s School of Public and International Affairs and was executive director of Human Rights Watch from 1993 to 2022.
A child and a man wear oxygen masks in a makeshift clinical setting.
A child and a man wear oxygen masks in a makeshift clinical setting.
Syrian children and adults receive treatment for a suspected chemical attack at a makeshift clinic in the rebel-held village of al-Shifuniyah in the Eastern Ghouta region of Syria on Feb. 25, 2018. Hamza al-Ajweh/AFP via Getty Images


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One can only rejoice in the demise of the regime of Bashar al-Assad. Much is uncertain about Syria’s future, but there is no question that the 24 years of Assad’s rule, preceded by 30 years under his comparably brutal father, Hafez al-Assad, have been utter hell for the Syrian people. No crime was too heinous for the Assads as they did whatever it took to retain power. Few governments worldwide have been as ruthless.
The catalogue of Bashar al-Assad’s atrocities quickly transcends the toolbox of a run-of-the-mill dictator. It is deeply moving, if horrifying, to see people emerge from his prisons after decades in custody. In most countries, families can learn about their loved ones in detention, but few people departed from Assad’s worst prisons, leaving the inmates completely isolated. Their families had no idea if they were still alive.
Many were not. A Syrian military police photographer who adopted the code name “Caesar” had the unenviable task of documenting the bodies of Syrians who had been executed or tortured to death. (Even dictatorships want assurance that their orders are being carried out.) In August 2013, Caesar defected, taking with him tens of thousands of photographs showing at least 6,786 bodies of people who had died in Syrian government custody. Most had been detained by just five intelligence agency branches in Damascus, their bodies sent to at least two military hospitals in Damascus between May 2011, as Assad crushed an initially peaceful uprising against his rule, and when Caesar fled Syria.
The Syrian Network for Human Rights (SNHR) documented 157,634 people who had been arrested between March 2011 and August 2024 and who remained in custody. Many had been forcibly disappeared. These included 5,274 children and 10,221 women. For some, we will only now begin to learn of their fates.

Assad’s slaughter was not limited to prisons. Having inherited his father’s chemical weapons program, he was a rare leader who used these banned weapons against his own people. (The only other ones in recent history were Iraq’s Saddam Hussein, who used chemical weapons in his 1988 genocide against Iraqi Kurds, known as the “Anfal” campaign, and Russia’s Vladimir Putin, who deployed the nerve agent Novichok against selected dissidents.) In August 2013, for example, Syrian forces fired rockets filled with sarin gas on Ghouta, a rural area east of Damascus that at the time was held by the armed opposition. The attack killed an estimated 1,466 people, mostly women and children.


Under threat of military intervention after then-U.S. President Barack Obama had declared that the use of chemical weapons would cross a “red line,” Assad in September 2013 agreed to surrender his chemical weapons. However, because chlorine has legitimate uses, the government was not required to eliminate its chlorine stockpiles. Between 2014 and 2018, the Syrian military periodically used chlorine as a chemical weapon, even though such use violates the Chemical Weapons Convention, which Syria had ratified. In April 2014 alone, there were 10 attacks in which chlorine was dropped on civilians in villages in northern Syria. An April 2018 chlorine attack on Douma in rural Damascus killed 43 people. Moreover, the government secretly kept a stash of sarin, which it used most lethally in an April 2017 attack on Khan Sheikhoun in Idlib province, killing at least 90 people.
(U.S. President-elect Donald Trump on Saturday mocked Obama for not having used military force to enforce his red line. However, when Trump, along with Britain and France, responded to the Douma attack by bombing three suspected Syrian chemical weapons facilities in April 2018, it “prompted defiant celebrations in Damascus … as it became clear that the limited attack posed no immediate threat to President Bashar al-Assad’s hold on power and would likely have no impact on the trajectory of the Syrian war,” as the Washington Post reported at the time.)
Horrible as chemical weapons are, their death toll was dwarfed by conventional bombing. The Syrian air force notoriously dropped “barrel bombs” on residential neighborhoods in parts of the country controlled by the armed opposition. Barrel bombs were improvised weapons: oil drums filled with explosives and metal fragments that were dropped without guidance from helicopters, typically hitting the ground with huge explosions and the widespread diffusion of deadly shrapnel. They pulverized neighborhoods, destroyed entire buildings, and left broad strips of death and destruction. One of the most dreaded sounds of the conflict was the “swish-swish-swish” of the barrels as they tumbled, with people below waiting horrible seconds to learn whether they would survive.
When Russia joined the conflict in September 2015 to prop up Assad’s regime, the Syrian-Russian alliance attacked more precisely. Jets targeted hospitals, schools, markets, and apartment buildings—deliberate war-crime attacks on civilians and civilian institutions—with the aim of depopulating regions in the hope of facilitating follow-up ground attacks on the rebel forces who lived there. The devastation was so bad that many compared the destruction of eastern Aleppo to Russia’s decimation of Grozny during the Second Chechen War. Russian and Syrian government airstrikes have killed more than 100,000 Syrians since 2011, according to SNHR.
The government’s bombing and persecution forced more than 14 million Syrians to flee their homes, half abroad and half within Syria—more than any other country. That represents some two-thirds of Syria’s prewar population.
Assad also used starvation and deprivation to force opposition-held areas to surrender. In eastern Ghouta and eastern Aleppo, Syrian forces imposed a total siege. Even when humanitarian agencies occasionally were allowed to deliver medical supplies, the Syrian military would “delete”—or ban—much of what was most urgently needed, a blatant violation of the legal duty even in time of war to allow humanitarian access to people in need. Gradually, one by one, these areas succumbed, with occupants given the “choice” to take their chances under Assad’s rule or to board the government’s dreaded green buses for a one-way trip to Idlib in northwestern Syria, the last area under the rule of the armed opposition. Most chose Idlib.
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A woman waves a Syrian opposition flag as she celebrates at Umayyad Square in Damascus on Dec. 8. A woman waves a Syrian opposition flag as she celebrates at Umayyad Square in Damascus on Dec. 8.

Assad Has Fallen. What’s Next for Syria and the Middle East?​


The Syrian president has fled, leaving behind immense uncertainty about the country’s future.
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Amy Mackinnon, John Haltiwanger

A torn picture of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is seen at the Bab al-Hawa border gate between Turkey and Syria on July 21, 2012. A torn picture of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is seen at the Bab al-Hawa border gate between Turkey and Syria on July 21, 2012.

Why Assad’s Regime Is Collapsing So Quickly​


While nobody was looking, the Syrian regime was increasingly hollowing out.
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Charles Lister

A Syrian boy walks amid the rubble of destroyed buildings in Aleppo, Syria on July 22, 2017. (George Ourfalian/AFP/Getty Images) A Syrian boy walks amid the rubble of destroyed buildings in Aleppo, Syria on July 22, 2017. (George Ourfalian/AFP/Getty Images)

Hypocritic Oath​


How WHO and other international agencies aid Assad’s war against Syria’s civilians.
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Annie Sparrow
Idlib borders Turkey, making a siege impossible, but the Syrian government, with Russia’s help, tried to limit humanitarian access even there. They used a deeply disputed ruling by U.N. lawyers, backed by Secretary-General António Guterres, that cross-border humanitarian aid required either the consent of the Assad government or an increasingly difficult-to-obtain U.N. Security Council resolution. Over time, the Russian and Syrian governments limited aid there. Meanwhile, the U.S. and other governments gradually reduced the aid they supplied, overburdened by new crises in Gaza, Ukraine, and Sudan and conscious that the Syrian government was siphoning off large amounts of the aid delivered through Damascus.

With Assad and his henchmen now on the run, the prospect of bringing them to justice for these mass atrocities is no longer theoretical. There are two options.

The first is for national prosecutors in countries outside Syria to file charges under the concept of universal jurisdiction, which allows any authorized national court to address certain of the most heinous crimes, including torture as well as the war crimes of attacking civilians and weaponizing health care. Several governments have already initiated such prosecutions, mainly for lower-level officials who happened to be in custody because they had fled Syria. For example, a German court convicted a Syrian military intelligence officer for overseeing a torture center and sentenced him to life in prison.
France has also charged Assad for the August 2013 sarin attack on eastern Ghouta. As a sitting head of state, Assad had arguably enjoyed immunity for such national prosecutions under a controversial International Court of Justice ruling. Having now been deposed, he no longer enjoys any such protection.
The second is for International Criminal Court (ICC) Prosecutor Karim Khan to file charges. There is no question that Assad’s atrocities are worthy of ICC attention; Khan’s challenge has been jurisdiction. Syria never joined the court, and a U.N. Security Council effort in 2014 to confer jurisdiction was vetoed by Russia and China.
However, facing a similar challenge in Myanmar, Khan pursued a novel legal theory, obtaining jurisdiction by focusing on the Myanmar army’s mass forced deportation of Rohingya to Bangladesh, which is an ICC member. He is now seeking an arrest warrant for Myanmar’s junta leader. Despite the considerable global demands on him, Khan should use a similar theory to obtain jurisdiction over senior Syrian officials, including Assad, for their atrocities that drove hundreds of thousands of Syrians into Jordan, which is also an ICC member.
Such prosecutions are important not only as a measure of respect for the victims and an acknowledgment of their plight. They are also a critical tool for the future. We can only guess how Syria’s new rulers will act. Will they fall back on their jihadi roots, or will they abide by their recent more tolerant rhetoric? Establishing a precedent of accountability for the atrocities of the past would be a significant way for the international community to signal expectations for the future.

 

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does anyone have any idea of our plans? in which order will we(SNA) move to liberate the lands from YPG? What comes after Menbic and after that?
 

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Lieutenant Colonel Tarık Solak, Commander of the Turkmen Coastal Division, was very well received by the people in the north of Latakia towns. A lot of aid need to be sent to the region, there is a problem of food supply including bread in the region. They say there is a flour problem. Turkmens must be at the forefront of security and public order in this region. Apart from Turkmens, there is also a non-Muslim population here.

While some organisations are in the corridors of Damascus, eager for power, Turkmens and SNA are currently on the front lines, saving the homeland and in contact with the people in some areas where there is a lot of trouble after ousted regime.
 
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I downplayed the hundred thousand in Sednaya number yesterday but reading the new stuff that came about, it might actually be closer to the original claims. Horrible, horrible stuff. Words can't start to describe it.


That's like a tuesday. Hoping to see a SNA push to Raqqa and a TSK update on the BPH region. Now is the time before idiotic ideas can start to forment in someone's minds. There were plenty of calls yesterday from both UK and US, pretty sure to specifically stop this soon-to-be reality.

I do not think there is any serious possibility for anyone to intervene, it would take menpower and neither the US nor UK(lol) are gonna deploy hundreds of troops on the border with Türkiye especially not with the reaction the local population is showing right now.

Israel can talk as big as it wants, deploying troops in eastern Syria is a fantasy for them which even if they dared would end in a catastrophy with dozens if not even more dead israeli soldiers.

There is reason the US and UK are frantically calling their Turkish countersparts since yesterday.
 

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especially not with the reaction the local population is showing right now
Yup.

To clarify for onlookers, the red circles are locals have been protesting against PKK for the last few days. These are the "natural borders" of the opposition/SNA/new government where people by and large do not wish for PKK.


All these cities must be cleared by SNA to both clear PKK and to later to create more leverage for SNA against HTS encroachment on the government. SNA must start cutting its umbilical. But there is a threat of US further south you go who must be forced to see reason. Using a group like Suleyman Shah is not a good start to reach equilibrium I fear.
 

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I will not share links because they are Pkk channels, but in the videos they share, the terrorists who were tried to defend Münbic wear red crosses on a white background on their helmets. As you know, these patches are removable and wearable, If they wearing this patch, it's nothing but an ideological show off. In other words, it can be claimed that US-European radical/fundamentalist terrorists/mercenaries are at the forefront there, as we have seen in many operations before.
 

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Yup.

To clarify for onlookers, the red circles are locals have been protesting against PKK for the last few days. These are the "natural borders" of the opposition/SNA/new government where people by and large do not wish for PKK.


All these cities must be cleared by SNA to both clear PKK and to later to create more leverage for SNA against HTS encroachment on the government. SNA must start cutting its umbilical. But there is a threat of US further south you go who must be forced to see reason. Using a group like Suleyman Shah is not a good start to reach equilibrium I fear.
If PKK collapse in Raqqa and Deir ez-Zor and these areas will be under the control of the SNA in the transitional government period, means that US will lose their 'bulgur' when they wish to go Dimyat for Rice. It can create a major breakdown that will cause the whole world to reconsider its Middle East policy.
 

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Yup.

To clarify for onlookers, the red circles are locals have been protesting against PKK for the last few days. These are the "natural borders" of the opposition/SNA/new government where people by and large do not wish for PKK.


All these cities must be cleared by SNA to both clear PKK and to later to create more leverage for SNA against HTS encroachment on the government. SNA must start cutting its umbilical. But there is a threat of US further south you go who must be forced to see reason. Using a group like Suleyman Shah is not a good start to reach equilibrium I fear.


Now there are even targeting US forces. The US will have no choice but leave these areas and retreat to its bases. Unless something radical happens the US will most likely pull its troops in the beginning of 2025.

This exactly is why backing the ypg was such a dumb decision even taken out the fact that you destroyed any relations you had witht he second biggest Military inside NATO and one of the few countries to actually deploy troops for NATO missions regularly since becoming a member.

These people know that without american backing none of this would have happened to them and they know the americans turned a blind eye on the crimes the ypg was committing.

That is people how you fuck up your whole policy and influence in under a decade.

Maybe Mcgurk is brainstorming another rebrand for the sdf to save them 🤡
 

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