India Navy TEDBF Program

[Low IQ Techie]

Now ADA is in a dilemma on how to cater to IN.
- tweak AMCA to N-AMCA
- or tweak TEDBF to ATEDBF
- or new design
- when to officially initiate
- define timeline keeping in mind global tech advancements.

AMCA & current TEDBF would use same engines in twin config. so their dimensions, weight, size are also identical.
Following is a scaled comparison as per their width:

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This comparison is identical to F-16 Vs F-35:

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Although unofficial CADs are not the ultimate thing, the AMCA CAD looks relatively matured but if the TEDBF needs to be tweaked then clearly some things have to be modified like -
- lengthening & widening fuselage.
- reshaping narrow cockpit & over-sized canopy.
- create space for frontal sensors.
- adjust smaller intake area.
- pull up intakes & increase belly width for IWB.
- reduce bulky shoulder like fused CFT.
- remove vertical tail to twin canted ones.
- blend the wing more into fuselage.
- perhaps increase wing width/area little more.
- remove wingtip hardpoint by conformal tapered EW antennas.

IDK how i forgot this post 1 year back.
We noticed as per available diagrams & official dimensions that AMCA & TEDBF have identical span, dimensions, cross section at some places, like height from belly to cockpit ceiling looks almost same.
This means if AMCA can have IWB so can TEDBF.

For notional AG load I used CADs of AGM-88G, JSM, AGM-158 JASSM.
For AA load i used Astr AAM CAD.
When we superimpose AMCA's IWB dimension box on both jets with AA, AG & mixed load, it looks like this -

We see that TEDBF needs some tweaking like i mentioned in last post. It would be like X-35 to F-35.

> IN indicated 5gen TEDBF at Aero-India'25. Some say it's for new CATOBAR IAC & 4gen TEDBF is for STOBAR IAC. IMO just like adjustment with Rafale has been done, similarly 5gen jet can be operated within STOBAR paramaters till CATOBAR IAC is made, otherwise from shore bases.

> Mechanical & Aero engineers can tell better, but i 've been thinking of putting a half-length catapult before ski-ramp, but it might reduce under deck space.

> Beast mode can never be compared with internal load, but -

- newer gen comes with newer architecture/framework, weapons, strategies, tactics.​

- Modular IWBs, CFTs can be implemented like in F-15 & planned in GCAP.​

- Like Su-75, a longer centerline IWB can hold Brahmos-NG type AGM.​

- A stealth jet can fire bigger AShM carried externally, but where/when stealth will be needed, a 4gen jet can't do it.​

- Ship of any size can be precisely hit by smart weapons & immobilized, sensors blinded.​