TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[MADDOG]

Yeah you'd think so but unfortunately they are going the WRONG WAY!

They had a supreme looking model in the animation. They raised the cockpit ridicilously high, made cockpit glass
spherical, put vertical stabilizers that were supposed to partially hide nozzle heat signature on top of the engines thus increased the RCS and heat signature, added an ugly nonaerodynamic protruding nose camera...

And if you point out any mistakes you are a traitor... If you say keep going the wrong way you are a patriot. Go figure...

"Nose camera" bro what

 

[Radko]

Yeah you'd think so but unfortunately they are going the WRONG WAY!

They had a supreme looking model in the animation. They raised the cockpit ridicilously high, made cockpit glass
spherical, put vertical stabilizers that were supposed to partially hide nozzle heat signature on top of the engines thus increased the RCS and heat signature, added an ugly nonaerodynamic protruding nose camera...

And if you point out any mistakes you are a traitor... If you say keep going the wrong way you are a patriot. Go figure...

Are you ok? Lol

 

[MADDOG]

how not recent it is?

How many prototypes are there?

hahahah almost start kind of thinking we are looking two diffrent prototypes


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It's the same prototype The angle makes it look weird that's all.

 

[dBSPL]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1636638886733524992

STG's large area displays for national aircrafts.

 

[DBdev]

Yeah, dude, I wrote it to Cimer, and they instantly replied and said that they are going to fire Temel Kotil and İsmail Demir from their job asap and thinking of possible execution soon.

Clearly everyone with eyes noticed that TF-X is looking wonky/off. I listed the reasons why that is in my opinion & how to fix it. No need to make it about me. But this is how the people of this country are, sadly. You are supposed to apploud and never point out any mistakes.

 

[Oublious]

This looks more like Fat Amy (F-35s nick name in the DCS game community) not F22. This non streamlined body cant see Mach 2.2 or even 1.8 unlike the one from the animations from just a few months ago. The plane on the animation looked like an arrow, this looks like Fat Amy had a kid with Iran's stealth drone.

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You should go to the coffeehouse and estabilesh empires and destroying empire, you can use your fantasy ther. This forum is not the place for.

 

[Agha Sher]

Clearly everyone with eyes noticed that TF-X is looking wonky/off. I listed the reasons why that is in my opinion & how to fix it. No need to make it about me. But this is how the people of this country are, sadly. You are supposed to apploud and never point out any mistakes.

You keep using the word "mistake" which is pissing me off. Who do you think you are saying that something you know nothing about is a mistake?

You think you have better judgement than 1000s of high-skilled engineers and top military decision makers? And that by only having looked at a low res picture taken from an angle.

 

[GoatsMilk]

how not recent it is?

How many prototypes are there?

hahahah almost start kind of thinking that we are looking to two diffrent prototypes


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The front top halves do look quite different? Anyone know why that is?

 

[DBdev]

You keep using the word "mistake" which is pissing me off. Who do you think you are saying that something you know nothing about is a mistake?

You think you have better judgement than 1000s of high-skilled engineers and top military decision makers? And that by only having looked at a low res picture taken from an angle.

Either earlier models by those same people were wrong or this thing. Which is it? Again this is not about who I am. We are talking about technical concepts not the people here.

 

[Agha Sher]

Either earlier models by those same people were wrong or this thing. Which is it? Again this is not about who I am. We are talking about technical concepts not the people here.

They always told us that the prototypes would materially differ from the mock-ups. Also expected design iterations from prototype to serial production.

 

[Hasanrize]

Either earlier models by those same people were wrong or this thing. Which is it? Again this is not about who I am. We are talking about technical concepts not the people here.

Earlier models were, as their names suggest, models. Some people designed it as a showcase for what it will look like. It didn't extensively test for aerodynamics etc. As we all expect that things maturated when the design phase progressed. Why did they change it? Maybe it wasn't performing as it was looking. Maybe Force's requirements changed, and maybe wind tunnel results forced engineers to change the design. After all, it is the laws of physics that rule nature not your feelings.

 

[Nutuk]

Clearly everyone with eyes noticed that TF-X is looking wonky/off. I listed the reasons why that is in my opinion & how to fix it. No need to make it about me. But this is how the people of this country are, sadly. You are supposed to apploud and never point out any mistakes.

That is because it is not finished yet, it misses all kinds of sensors, protusions etc. that with production models will be added.

Compare it to a woman without makeup, with makeup she will look stunning!

 

[DBdev]

The front top halves do look quite different? Anyone know why that is?

Angles. Cockpit is too high, that is one of the reasons plane looks "off". But only from this new angle you can see how severe it is. Just my opinion.

 

[DBdev]

Earlier models were, as their names suggest, models. Some people designed it as a showcase for what it will look like. It didn't extensively test for aerodynamics etc. As we all expect that things maturated when the design phase progressed. Why did they change it? Maybe it wasn't performing as it was looking. Maybe Force's requirements changed, and maybe wind tunnel results forced engineers to change the design. After all, it is the laws of physics that rule nature not your feelings.

Raising RCS and heat signature by putting vertical stabilizers on top of the engines has nothing to do with "my feelings". Stealth is more important than other requirements. That is why other countries did not make this MISTAKE. Not even Russia.

 

[No Name]

Either earlier models by those same people were wrong or this thing. Which is it? Again this is not about who I am. We are talking about technical concepts not the people here.

Actually, the current design is the same as the first design that was shown back when Saab was helping with the project. I do not have the picture on me, but there was a picture of three possible designs that Saab came up with for the project going around online. One was a twin-engine jets that looked exactly like the current TF-X model here the other two were a single-engine and a single-engine with canards.

 

[Jacop]

How many prototypes have been produced so far?

 

[Agha Sher]

How many prototypes have been produced so far?

This is the first one

 

[DBdev]

Actually, the current design is the same as the first design that was shown back when Saab was helping with the project. I do not have the picture on me, but there was a picture of three possible designs that Saab came up with for the project going around online. One was a twin-engine jets that looked exactly like the current TF-X model here the other two were a single-engine and a single-engine with canards.

I was talking about the last 2 models (mockup & animation) not the decade old ones. This protoype however looks more like
bulky F-35 (fat Amy) and alot less like a sleek 2.5 Mach F22 air superiority fighter. With that nonaerodynamic cockpit it has zero chance of reaching those speeds.

 

[Afif]

I was talking about the last 2 models (mockup & animation) not the decade old ones. This protoype however looks more like
bulky F-35 (fat Amy) and alot less like a sleek 2.5 Mach F22 air superiority fighter. With that nonaerodynamic cockpit it has zero chance of reaching those speeds.

Bro, you sound too sure. Besides, It didn't pass CDR yet.
I think it is better to wait and see.

For example, How FC-31 has gradually evolved into J-35.

 

[boredaf]

Raising RCS and heat signature by putting vertical stabilizers on top of the engines has nothing to do with "my feelings". Stealth is more important than other requirements. That is why other countries did not make this MISTAKE. Not even Russia.

I'll ask you once again, what makes you the expert on the subject? What credentials and knowledge do you have to talk as if you know more than hundreds and hundreds of people worked on this for years? How do you know what they did rises rcs, do you have access to information on the design?