TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[hugh]

The third flight is imminent.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1891758757329179058

 

[Sanchez]

The third flight is imminent.

I don't think P1 will fly any time soon and I believe P0 finished its flighttest schedule. Maybe they will unveil P1.

 

[hugh]

I don't think P1 will fly any time soon and I believe P0 finished its flighttest schedule. Maybe they will unveil P1.

P0 will fly. Güler has said it a few weeks ago.

 

[Spitfire9]

P0 will fly. Güler has said it a few weeks ago.

I presume that P0 has been modified otherwise why wait all these months before flight 3?

 

[Zoth]

With my limited knowledge i'm going to ask a question.

What's the point of flying P0 again if the actual fly prototype is not even ready, will this in any way assist the P1 which is currently in building phase? I'm very confused, does P0 even return any good data regarding the fly tests, since P1 going to be "a lot of different" in Fuselage/Body area?

 

[uçuyorum]

With my limited knowledge i'm going to ask a question.

What's the point of flying P0 again if the actual fly prototype is not even ready, will this in any way assist the P1 which is currently in building phase? I'm very confused, does P0 even return any good data regarding the fly tests, since P1 going to be "a lot of different" in Fuselage/Body area?

It's unlikely to be that different, and therr are probably many subsystems we can improve.

 

[hugh]

TAI keeps teasing

4K image of KAAN from the top

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1892125624459743676

 

[hugh]

Do we know if P1 will have any mission systems like radar or eots etc.?

 

[Huelague]

The bottom (fuselage) Kaan is flat, which reduces the stealth ability. Are there any solutions?

 

[Iskander]

The bottom (fuselage) Kaan is flat, which reduces the stealth ability. Are there any solutions?

The solution, apparently, is precisely in the plane of the bottom. All 5th generation fighters have such a flat bottom. Apparently, the roundness of the fuselage will not reduce stealth

 

[Huelague]

The solution, apparently, is precisely in the plane of the bottom. All 5th generation fighters have such a flat bottom. Apparently, the roundness of the fuselage will not reduce stealth

Look at F-35, its anything else than flat.

 

[Iskander]

Look at F-35, its anything else than flat.

Yes, not quite flat.
The KAAN and the Chinese fighter have flatter bottoms.
The 5th generation aircraft are remarkably similar to each other.
There is something related to geometry, in which I am, to put it mildly, far from an expert.

 

[boredaf]

The bottom (fuselage) Kaan is flat, which reduces the stealth ability.

Do you have any source on that other than "but F-35 is bumpy" ?

 

[Yasar_TR]

The bottom (fuselage) Kaan is flat, which reduces the stealth ability. Are there any solutions?

Bro, flat belly generally means better stealth.
f35’s slightly rounded belly has been argued to compromise it’s stealth.
Rounded surfaces reflect back radar sigoals. Where as flat and 90degree surfaces scatter radar signals.

The thing about flat panels is that incident radar energy is reflected away from the radar aerial that emitted it, so the searching radar does not receive a return. Only if the radar energy arrives perpendicular to the flat panel will it be reflected back and received. In that situation, the ground radar will get a brief ‘glint’ return, a high-energy spike - and one contact is no use for tracking a moving target.

The B-2 manages to do that with curved surfaces. Some very clever engineering went into that, assisted by the extra computer power available to the designers of the B-2 compared to that available to the designers of the F-117.

F35 : still fairly flat but some curvature under belly apparent.

F22: distinctly flat belly

F117: totally flat belly

B2 bomber: rounded belly - but read above explanation

KAAN : flat belly like F22

 

[Boykaz]

The KAAN AESA radar will probably be like the (F-22) AN/APG-77."

 

[Turkic]

The KAAN AESA radar will probably be like the (F-22) AN/APG-77."

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I assume you're only talking about the shape ?

 

[Boykaz]

Sanırım sadece şekilden bahsediyorsunuz?

Yes

 

[Spitfire9]

Could anyone update me on when the remaining development prototypes are scheduled to fly, please? If the aim is still to have the aircraft design finalised, tested, in production and 20 delivered in 2028, that is an extremely demanding schedule.

Another thing: how many of the prototypes will be for testing the finalised design?

 

[Iskander]

Could anyone update me on when the remaining development prototypes are scheduled to fly, please? If the aim is still to have the aircraft design finalised, tested, in production and 20 delivered in 2028, that is an extremely demanding schedule.

Another thing: how many of the prototypes will be for testing the finalised design?

Defense Industries President Haluk Görgün announced that a total of 6 KAAN prototypes will be produced. Görgün said, “We will deliver KAAN in 2028. It will be used with a domestic engine in the 2030s.” January 15, 2025

According to the latest information, the second prototype will fly at the end of this year or early next year.

 

[Spitfire9]

Defense Industries President Haluk Görgün announced that a total of 6 KAAN prototypes will be produced. Görgün said, “We will deliver KAAN in 2028. It will be used with a domestic engine in the 2030s.” January 15, 2025

According to the latest information, the second prototype will fly at the end of this year or early next year.

Thanks. With testing of one prototype not starting until 2026 by the sound of things, delivery in 2028 looks extremely ambitious to me. Perhaps the other four will fly early 2026 and start testing soon after that?