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Who will they get 5/6th gen jets from ? Chinese jets won't protect them forever because they are allies only because of India. What if China builds good relationships with India ? There's no single country other than Turkiye and China to sell them those jets and we're their historical ally. Don't forget they have 2 allies in total. Kaan is the optimal choice for them even if it doesn't appear as good as it should.
If China can build good relations with India, Turkey can do as well. Besides, however imperfect it is, we're still a democracy. A different political party could throw Pakistan under the bus. Plus our engine situation, we might not be as reliable of an ally you think we are.
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I don't think hundred year alliences can be put away that easy.
I don't really know to be honest, did we ever have bad relationships with Pakistan since the Republic was found ? I mean both countries have been ruled by parties with very different opinions in the last 102 years. We were allies before the foundation of the republic tho. But I don't remember bad days between the two.
I always put so much belief in secret agreements. Those agreements are why the US can never turn back on Israel. Diaspora ? Dude US population's almost 50% is built of German/British/Irish people. Idc about 7 million jews there.
I think the same for us and Pakistan too. Current government of Pakistan was not who our government wished for and they move in the way our government don't like (conflicts with Afghanistan for example). But did we spit a single word to them ? Did the cooperation between the two countries slow down any ?
This allience has most likely been guarranteed by secret agreements decades ago and it's surpassing democracy.
All are just ideas. Not claiming anything.
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Doubtful. One constant of Turkish foreign policy since 1947 is good relations with Pakistan regardless of governments in charge.
Not really, they were pretty on the fence.
China won't stop supplying Pakistan regardless of their future relations with India. Pakistan however will no doubt will be a Kaan user in the future.
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Some of you seem to forget that Pakistan is our only real ally.
It doesnt matter what government is in power Pakistan will always stand with Türkiye because of its people.
If we need pilots,they will send.
If we need soldiers,they will send.
If we need nukes,they will provide.
So,if they want the KAAN they will get the KAAN.
It doesnt matter what government is in power Pakistan will always stand with Türkiye because of its people.
If we need pilots,they will send.
If we need soldiers,they will send.
If we need nukes,they will provide.
So,if they want the KAAN they will get the KAAN.
I guess it depends a bit on what Pakistan deem as good relations. Would they view it as betrayal if were to build good relations with India?
What if China demanded them to do something that goes directly against our interests and threatened them with economic sanctions if they didn't comply?
There has to be a line somewhere since these nations consist of different nationalities, histories and different geopolitical circumstances.
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Yes, but I dont see how they can finance it.
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I'm sure they(both countries) will find a way.
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No,the only way pakistan would feel betrayed is if our government changes its position on kashmier.
No chance of that ever happening since pakistan is the only country able to help them against india in case of a war between China and india.
There are rumors that Pakistan version will use chinese engine ws 10g.
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Pay money to get a blue check from Nazi Central, spout bullshit to get nationalists to jerk off and beat their chest, and profit. Internet was a big mistake.
Sorry for posting a meme here, but it really explains it, we will find a way to give Kaans to Pakistan and it's a good thing.
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Pakistan is one of the closest allies of Turkey and i suspect they do this so Pakistan also gets some know how and also expand/scale the production of Kaan, i doubt that critical componenets will be produced in Pakistan, think it like giving some work to ally countries in F35 meanwhile holding the critical electrical component for domestic production like scenario.
President Erdoğan (2030): "Our national combat aircraft KAAN will enter mass production. With Steel Dome, we will integrate our air defense systems into a single network"
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Not really TAI themselves said that the first 20 Block 10 4.5 gen would be delivered in 2028 although I also doubt that but serial production with the domestic engine is planned for 2032
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While Chinas 6 gen super triagle steath aircraft with 3 engines doing flights every week , why the fack Kaan cant ? Whats going on ?
Is Kaan project a fiasco ?
Is Kaan project a fiasco ?
